Saradiel
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Does it take this much time to understand what US want? It is commonsense US does not want other countries to go in directions they don’t like. So what is the stick they use to punish those countries? Human rights and internal troubles…In the end what is evident is that US does not like that SL go in the direction that they do not like. Do we need to obey the US like some brainless zombies? At this very moment, people of SL should decide whether they should follow the instructions of the US or try to make their own independent path. We need not to become fully independent rough state per say but at least independence in certain subject that matters should be achieved.
So any country with intelligent people will solve their HR issues and internal troubles so that US and west won’t be able to use that. That is how India acted. When they were in a difficulty they resort to managing their HR record. Screaming in full volume that west is unfair and hypocritical doesn’t help us. Because we cannot stop west acting against us regarding HR. But MR did not do that. Instead he allowed internal troubles to escalate and allowed HR situation to go down. In other words, he fell to the trap west had for him. Before he takes SL down with him, SL removed him, so SL state can act with the rest of the world with a clean chit.
US’s concerns are not against our concerns. Their concerns relates to largely indian ocean politics while ours is reducing western support to separatists’ cause. And we do not support US…please tell me where we had acted according to US. We just have given the impression that we will be pro west. But see china port project is going on. Why? Our china-SL relations are going on as usual.
We take care US’s concerns and west (US) takes care of our concerns. That is not ditching our independence, but simply politics and business as usual.
The reason you talk like this is you have no understanding on geo politics.
And if you think MR did not obey others you are dreaming. 2013 දි මහින්ද උතුරේ ඡන්දේ තිබ්බේ ඉන්දියානු බලපෑම නිසානේ.......ඔයා හිතනවා වගේ නෙමෙයි මහින්ද හැමෝටම නැමුණා.....
අපි ජය ගන්න ඕනි....කොටි පරද්දන්න ඕනි...ඒක කෙලින් තියෙන පාරක් නෙමෙයි......හැරෙන තැන්වලින් හැරිලා...එක එක පාරවල් වලින් ගිහින් තමයි දිනන්න ඕනි.
Of course we don’t need bad US-SL ties, but isn’t that what MR did?US has postponed means in diplomatic terms is that they have dropped the charges against us for the time being. We do not need fyi bad SL-US ties.
One reason I supported Maithree was, under a new administration we can manage the UN. So one motive is already accomplished.
But that doesn’t mean our issues are over. SLG should investigate and show that most of war crime charges are hollow.
And another thing, in 2016 there is presidential election in US, Hilary is the most possible winner. Hilary had been anti SL. If you don’t know Sampandan and Sumanthiran had already met Hilary and talked to her, after which 2011 UN resolution was brought against SL..
If MR was there with Hilary (who would stay until 2024) we will find ourselves in a difficult situation. But with UNP (which is looked at as pro US) we can manage it.
Laith was a bit like Gota, yes he was a good leader but lacked commonsense. JR did manage 80s. Please read SL history in 80s..I haven’t heard of Pramadasa’s charge.to the said title such as Lalith and MR. JR didn't manage the 80s. If he ever did Premadasa would not have said "dekona willakkuwa".
When war started in full scale india was pro LTTE but when they left SL they were anti LTTE…
Relationship with west was useful for us. SL under Kadiragamar was mostly non aligned and not pro US. After open economy even with a war, SL economy went ahead. Business with west did help us. Just read how SL was before 78.Don't just keep on telling just because of having good ties with the West would give us more opportunities to rise out of the misery. For 26-27 years from 1978-2005 we had good relations with US and the West altogether. Did we get any good opportunities to progress our country to the prosperity? No we didn't. The only thing that happened was West burying our country with lots of foreign debt and projects which didn't deliver what was originally intended.
Gover is already looking to get GSP+ and possibly we will get it. That is an opportunity.
RW passed several acts in parliament to make sure our fish produce meets the criteria set by EU market. After several months, or next year we can possibly lift the fish ban on us which has negatively impacted us. (MR did nothing regarding this)
So these are the opportunities. And we can expand our industry base with investment from west. I heard Volkswagen is coming to SL. Our first priority is setting the economy right and go into western market. That is grabbing the opportunity.
After US bombed Japs, the Japanese worked with US in a friendly manner and set their economy straight. If Japan went in a collision course with US they won.t be where they are now. SL and US were not even in US-Japan level animosity. So what is the problem?
ඔතන වෙස්ට් වෙනුවට චීනය දාන්න.....එතකොට මහින්ද කළේ ඒකම නේද?The only thing that happened was West burying our country with lots of foreign debt and projects which didn't deliver what was originally intended.
Isn’t that what I have said? art of war? you know nothing about it.Enemy of my enemy is my friend. Very old saying. Read the art of war.
And since when did US become our enemy? Let me make this easy for you. Answer this question. Who is our enemy?
There is nothing called asia and Europe in geo political terms. Every one is after their own interests. SL cannot afford to take a side.Balancing the foreign relations with much weight on Asia is not non alignment. By doing that we have selected Asia over the Europe and the US
So did MR balance asia with west? මහින්ද අන්තිමට නැවතුනේ මුස්ලිම් ලෝකයයි, ඉන්දියාවයි තරහා කරගෙන........Is that selecting asia over west? Our export market is west. Our enemy’s support base is in west….So having good relations with west is vital. මොකද බටහිර අපේ පැත්තේ තියාගත්තේ නැත්තම් උන් දෙමළාට සහාය දෙනවා....
What theory? You bring up a theory and call it yourself nice theory….MR was wrong so yahapalan should also be wrong. Nice theory.
I said there are problems in UNP’s foreign policy….I have issues with that…I am not a blind supporter like you.
Because iran is a country that has succeeded in a creating a industrial base on their own when west put sanctions against them.Why the heck we need Iran for? By mentioning Asia I only referred to India, China, Russia, Japan, S.Korea, Taiwan and the SEA tiger countries.
Also what is this technological transfer? Please elaborate
So did MR keep good relationships with India, China,Russia, Japan and S Korea or the rest?
චීනය හැර අනිත් හැම රටක් එක්කම ප්රශ්න හදාගත්තා....
චීන න්යෂ්ඨික සබ්මැරින් වලට ඉඩ දිලා, 13 ක්රියාත්මක නොකර ඉන්දියාව එක්ක කාගත්තා...
ඔයා දන්නවාද ලංකාව යූඑන් එකේදි ක්රිමියා රෙසලුෂන් එකේදි ඇමරිකාවට පක්ෂව රුසියාවට එරෙහිව ඡන්දේ දුන්නා කියලා? ඇයි ඒ ඇමරිකාවේ හොඳ හිත දිනන්න....කබරාලයා හැමදාම ලංකාවේ වැදගත්කම කියලා ඇමරිකන් ජර්නල්වල ලියන්නේ ඇයි? ඇමරිකාවේ හොඳනම දිනන්න.
ජපානය ලංකාවට සහෝගය දුන්නේ නෑ.....දකුණු කොරියාව අපිට විරුද්ධව ඡන්දේ පවා දුන්නා.....
ඇත්ත කතාව මහින්ද දින්න ආසියාවක් නෑ....මෑන් හිටියා නම් පකිස්ථතානයත් තරහා කරගෙන තමයි නවතින්නේ...
මහින්ද ආසියාවෙන් තමන්ගේ පැත්තට හරවා ගත්තේ ස්වාසිලන්තය තමයි.......ලොල්
Please for god’s sake read and learn about SL’s history in 80s…ගොන් කතා කියන්නේ නැතුවGoing against India meant siding with the West. That why India got over the edge and became hostile. Do not compare MR with JR. When JR was handling the situation India wasn't hostile towards us by very large degree. But what MR received was a already hostile India which has sided with SL Tamil cause. MR had to find something to balance out Indian threat and he did good by adopting the China policy. It was a wise move. Because of that India had to water down it's approach towards SL. Indian policy towards SL changed dramatically because of China. If not sure check S. Swami and his articles and debates in the TV..
I knew you posted an interview. I just quoted what Suren said. I am just fed up with holier than thou attitude of tamils@Saradiel .. Machun i think you misquoted me ^^