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Sri Lankan Air Force – Acquiring Pak Made JF 17? — ( An Indian Viewpoint)

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Acquiring the JF 17 from Pakistan is, however, likely to raise concerns with India which post civil war is hoping that the government in Colombo accept Indian sensitivities on acquiring arms and weapon systems from rivals in the region including China and Pakistan.

Visit of Pak Air Chief

The visit of Chief of Air Staff of Pakistan Air Force Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman to Sri Lanka coincided with the approval by the Sri Lankan Cabinet to purchase new fighter jets for the Sri Lankan Air Force (SLAF) on a government to government basis. This has given rise to speculation that the Sri Lanka may be going in for purchasing the China developed, and Pakistan manufactured JF 17 light combat fighter. Pakistan has been attempting to export the fighter aircraft in the neighborliness, with Sri Lanka and Myanmar being the primary customers targeted.

Sri Lanka Pakistan Air Force Relations

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Chinese CAC FC-1 Xiaolong Fighter

Sri Lanka Air Force had relied on extensive support from the Pakistan Air Force during the long period of civil war against the Liberation of Tamil Tigers Eelam (LTTE). As India was constrained by the reactions in Tamil Nadu, Sri Lanka obtained extensive military assistance from some countries during this period including China, Pakistan, Russia, Ukraine and Israel.

Carrying forward this relationship Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman received an audience at the highest level with Sri Lankan President Maithripala Sirisena, Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe and meet the top military leadership of the country including Secretary Defense and the Services Chiefs. The Pakistan Air Chief is reported to have offered extensive training and professional support to the Sri Lankan Air Force during his interaction with these dignitaries.

Sri Lanka Cabinet Approval

Almost concomitantly Sri Lanka made the announcement of approval of the cabinet to acquire new fighters. Sri Lanka Cabinet spokesman Rajitha Senaratne said the government is considering buying eight multi-role fighter aircraft with associated weapons on a government-to-government basis. President Maithripala Sirisena, in his capacity as the Minister of Defense, has proposed to obtain expressions of interest from interested aircraft manufacturers, assistant producers, and authorized government agents for purchasing of the fighters. Sri Lanka Air Force is expected to purchase 8-12 multi role fighter aircraft.

Rajitha Senaratne was reported by Sri Lankan media to state, “”The fighter aircraft of the Sri Lanka Air Force have been ageing. It is necessary to replace them because the Air Force needs a functioning fleet to maintain oceanic security and to face any unexpected threat. That is why President Maithripala Sirisena, in his capacity as the Minister of Defense, proposed that expressions of interest be obtained from interested aircraft manufacturers, assistant manufacturers, and authorized government agents, to purchase aircraft on a government-to-government basis,” he said.

As of now it is not clear which governments are being made the offer and what the response has been. India has put the proposal of exporting the Tejas LCA in the Bahrain Air Show held in January this year and may also put in a bid.

Debating Acquisition of Combat Fighters by SLAF

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While the decision to equip the air force is within the sovereign domain of the Sri Lankan government, a number of questions are likely to be raised given that the LTTE threat has been effectively neutralized now and is unlikely to come up again shortly. Given the progressive process of reconciliation by the Sirisena government on the Island, there are hopes of satisfying Tamil aspirations thus there is unlikely to be any traction for separatists in the country for times to come.

The small fleet of fighter aircraft may, therefore, be used primarily to keep alive the training and expertise acquired by the Sri Lankan Air Force for any future contingencies.

Acquiring the JF 17 from Pakistan is, however, likely to raise concerns with India which post civil war is hoping that the government in Colombo accept Indian sensitivities on acquiring arms and weapon systems from rivals in the region including China and Pakistan.

India has made the offer of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) the first squadron of which was raised recently, but will have to provide an assurance of timely supplies for the Sri Lankan government to take up the offer seriously and dissuade it from acquisitions of rivals in the neighborhood.

In ordinary course Sri Lankan Air Force may be able to wait for the LCAs with no immediate threat on the horizon, this will also ensure that a degree of stability will be maintained in relations with India.

And for that reason Air Chief Marshal Sohail may have tried to persuade the Sri Lankan leadership to go in for the JF 17, or his visit was only for rejuvenation of partnership with the Air Force we will soon come to know.

Given the course of matured discourse between India and Sri Lanka under the Sirisena government which is likely to see even the vexatious issue of fishermen being resolved in the days to come, New Delhi and Colombo are expected to address this issue as well through dialogue.

http://www.slguardian.org/2016/08/sri-lankan-air-force-acquiring-pak-made-jf-17-an-indian-viewpoint/
 
India has made the offer of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) the first squadron of which was raised recently, but will have to provide an assurance of timely supplies for the Sri Lankan government to take up the offer seriously and dissuade it from acquisitions of rivals in the neighborhood.


Is that true? is there a source for the above?
 
Rajapakse your are not in Power--- But your Bain is Still Churning your Parliament

Game Starts

a) Lanka is keen on freebies holding Balls of India/Pakistan & China all 6 Together!!
b) Getting birds from China as aid or at 1% interest which Chinese are know for will lead to them being a Dominion of China-- is what China WANTS!!
C) Getting birds from India as aid or at 5% interest/10 Year loan which iNDIANs are know for will Prove India Holds the Lion from "Loin"
d) Lankans are Least Bothered of Giants, as they know they have Trump card Value...

Bottomline - SriLanka can Play the Game to a Limit then it will fall in cradle like Cuba
 
i will like to bet on a Russian Jet possibly something cheaper and in the same range owing to commonality of existing fleet with Russian jets and since such a small fleet is for training not any maritime cover or strike role really.

In the end, there is a good chance both JF and Tejas will be on paper only with Russia taking the cake and the high profile ones fighting it out in forums in a never ending boxing bout.
 
i will like to bet on a Russian Jet possibly something cheaper and in the same range owing to commonality of existing fleet with Russian jets and since such a small fleet is for training not any maritime cover or strike role really.

In the end, there is a good chance both JF and Tejas will be on paper only with Russia taking the cake and the high profile ones fighting it out in forums in a never ending boxing bout.
In that case. Which Russian jet?
 
In that case. Which Russian jet?


  1. Yak 130 as a light fighter with weapons suite and avionics plus a strong feedback from Bangladesh
  2. Mig 29 variants

Basically a light LIFT with sufficient avionics and weapon suites of modern time will do...

An outside chance stands for USA if it offers Textron Scorpion and arm it up plus give Long term aid line to finance this purchase.

Where JF and Tejas will face difficulty is the pilots having been accustomed to Russian jets all along like Mig27s and thus Russia has a much better hold over SLAF versus India or Pakistan or even China.

Of course all can change if someone gives them a long loan, aid and lots of other investments coupled with this deal.

will tag @MilSpec on this.. I believe he can throw better insights on this line of thinking..and possibly more contenders
 
  1. Yak 130 as a light fighter with weapons suite and avionics plus a strong feedback from Bangladesh
  2. Mig 29 variants
Basically a light LIFT with sufficient avionics and weapon suites of modern time will do...

An outside chance stands for USA if it offers Textron Scorpion and arm it up plus give Long term aid line to finance this purchase.

Where JF and Tejas will face difficulty is the pilots having been accustomed to Russian jets all along like Mig27s and thus Russia has a much better hold over SLAF versus India or Pakistan or even China.

Of course all can change if someone gives them a long loan, aid and lots of other investments coupled with this deal.

will tag @MilSpec on this.. I believe he can throw better insights on this line of thinking..and possibly more contenders
Hmmm I'm not sure sir.
I think Chinese option (due to financial aid) and JF-17 offer much more bang for their bucks. With FBW JF-17 offers quite an easy route to conversion plus a dual seater JF-17 B is on its way. Use of Milspec allows JF-17 to integrate a vast majority of western weaponry. Furthermore PAF is really committed to the development of JF-17 a platform and it will see continual upgrades through blocks (II, III, IV and so on).

Even Tejas could have been a good option but the program has suffered several setbacks, delays and the future is uncertain as IAF is looking for MRCA in Rafaels and other options.
 
Hmmm I'm not sure sir.
I think Chinese option (due to financial aid) and JF-17 offer much more bang for their bucks. With FBW JF-17 offers quite an easy route to conversion plus a dual seater JF-17 B is on its way. Use of Milspec allows JF-17 to integrate a vast majority of western weaponry. Furthermore PAF is really committed to the development of JF-17 a platform and it will see continual upgrades through blocks (II, III, IV and so on).

Even Tejas could have been a good option but the program has suffered several setbacks, delays and the future is uncertain as IAF is looking for MRCA in Rafaels and other options.
That is where both India and Pakistan are wrong.. of course China can give aid and long loans surely..

But SL AF does not undertake any complex mission anymore .. LTTE time is long gone.. so no more offensive missions.... Their naval might is limited owing to size of economy which will grow and also about the present fleet. On top the numbers though are around 8 +4 follow on possibly later. With 12 jets to replace old obsolete F7s, Kfirs and Mig27s, there wont be radical change.. rather its purely to keep SLAF folks trained to tackle any contingency.

Thus any contingency what SLAF will face will be more of maritime nature.. Here the Mig29 variants take the cake with the range, dual engine and possibly the long time experience of maritime role. Coupled with twin seater version, it helps in training needs more easily.

But again China can add much more to the mix possibly with loans and infrastructure investments. Yet i believe there will be considerable pressure and influence from Western powers and Russian side on this purchase.
 
  1. Yak 130 as a light fighter with weapons suite and avionics plus a strong feedback from Bangladesh
  2. Mig 29 variants
Basically a light LIFT with sufficient avionics and weapon suites of modern time will do...

An outside chance stands for USA if it offers Textron Scorpion and arm it up plus give Long term aid line to finance this purchase.

Where JF and Tejas will face difficulty is the pilots having been accustomed to Russian jets all along like Mig27s and thus Russia has a much better hold over SLAF versus India or Pakistan or even China.

Of course all can change if someone gives them a long loan, aid and lots of other investments coupled with this deal.

will tag @MilSpec on this.. I believe he can throw better insights on this line of thinking..and possibly more contenders
I will cross post from another thread.

sure, if they want to setup a aviation industry. In combat the current mig29K will eat either of these jets without a second thought.
Mig 29 is cheaper, will be able to consolidate existing munitions of 23, 27 and kfir platforms, open bus arch will let them choose any future munitions of western, chinese, russian or israeli make, exceptional flexibility of integrating russian, chinese or Israeli, targeting pods, extended loiter time compared to smaller single engine platforms, twin engine will provide redundancy in case of flameout on water to return to base, better value for money.

Mig29 makes the most sense as a platform for SLAF...They should have a small but lethal fleet. Smaller economy fighter platforms like JF17/LCA/Yak130/ are for larger fleet sizes where tactics can be tweaked by a larger strike force composition.

If you can only afford a small fleet get the most potent deterrence.
 
It's only EIGHT jets, purchase of either jet isn't really a big deal as one is making it out to be.

Funny thing is, Indian and Pakistani media is jumping up n down hyping up their respective jets, only to see a 3rd contender knock them both out.
 
SriLanka is a sovereign state which can make its own decision.

During my last year trip to SL (Colombo and Kandy), I did observe that they have high respect and regard for us Pakistanis.
 
Even Indians don't plan to field their fighter entirely why do they expect srilanka to buy em? Plus JF-17 has been praised in many international air shows... the only airshow Texas was advertised in was Indian airshow a couple of years ago... and Sri Lanka can buy from whomever they wish to. India's hope of srilanka considering indias sensitivity is just purely fanaticism of Indian govt.
 
  1. Yak 130 as a light fighter with weapons suite and avionics plus a strong feedback from Bangladesh
  2. Mig 29 variants
Basically a light LIFT with sufficient avionics and weapon suites of modern time will do...

An outside chance stands for USA if it offers Textron Scorpion and arm it up plus give Long term aid line to finance this purchase.

Where JF and Tejas will face difficulty is the pilots having been accustomed to Russian jets all along like Mig27s and thus Russia has a much better hold over SLAF versus India or Pakistan or even China.

Of course all can change if someone gives them a long loan, aid and lots of other investments coupled with this deal.

will tag @MilSpec on this.. I believe he can throw better insights on this line of thinking..and possibly more contenders
how about Combat Hawk ! we are having a large fleet.
 
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