Sri Lanka cricket team attack mastermind 'killed' in Afghanistan

[Javad]

@A-Team
Sounds simple.But what do we do about pakistani concerns??

- You still need to kill man more TTP talibans and if you can´t kill them, just push them into Pakistan. We will take care of them
- You force the afghan government to negotiate honestly with us and not be puppets of other nations.
- Your government, intelligence agencies ensures afghan soil is not used against our country and you stop supporting proxies that are terrorizing Pakistan
- You put an effective stop to inflow of narcotics into Pakistan


We have hundred more concerns....

Where do we start???

 

[A-Team]

facts are straight my dear.
he was presented to CIA personal in Pakistan.
your forced American guests decided to keep him there. bring it up with them.

your wanted terrorists that decided to stay in North waziristan were either droned or bombed by our forces. no one was spared.

I am trying to ignore the collusion of Karzai in keeping Latif ullah Mehsood one of the TTP leader who was snatched by American special forces from Afghan Khad.. and left Karzai ranting like a bull over the raid.

Do you seriously believe all this? and Do you think we are idiots? Stop l

Let me refresh you memory here, read this and this disucssion ends here and stop lying.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...2060e6-0f38-11e3-a2b3-5e107edf9897_story.html

" Hina Rabbani Khar, a former Pakistani foreign minister, told a TV show Tuesday that Pakistan would help facilitate peace talks but that Karzai’s government “must also show its seriousness.” She suggested that some of Karzai’s expectations of Pakistan were impractical, such as hoping that it would suddenly release Baradar as a goodwill gesture.

“Pakistan shall play the role of facilitator for talks between the Afghan peace council” and the Taliban, Khar said. “That is realistic. But if Karzai thinks Mullah Baradar could return in the plane with him, that is dramatic and unrealistic.”""

 

[A-Team]

@A-Team, let me ask you two simple questions:

1. How do you justify Afghanistan's sheltering of Brahamdagh Bugti -- he admits in his own interview that he was sheltered by the NDS (other sources including stuff leaked by wiki-leaks also confirms it)

2. How do you justify the recruitment and support of Latif Mehsud the deputy of Hakeemullah of TTP (he was snatched from the Afghans by a US Special Forces raid)

Larger points:
1. Is it better not to be honest -- as opposed to hurtling meaningless slogans?
2. People will believe that Afghanistan does not support violence inside Pakistan about as much as they will believe Pakistan.

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Can you show me the video or wiki leaks where it says that he was shelterd by NDS?

Ashraf Ghani takes action against Pakistani Talis there is no doubt that, cant same the same for GHQ vis-a-vis Afghan Talis.
Our actions speak louder than words example being recent Pak Tali taken out but the other hand just give one only one example of such measure by Pakistan.

@A-Team
Sounds simple.But what do we do about pakistani concerns??

- You still need to kill man more TTP talibans and if you can´t kill them, just push them into Pakistan. We will take care of them
- You force the afghan government to negotiate honestly with us and not be puppets of other nations.
- Your government, intelligence agencies ensures afghan soil is not used against our country and you stop supporting proxies that are terrorizing Pakistan
- You put an effective stop to inflow of narcotics into Pakistan


We have hundred more concerns....

Where do we start???

Sounds fair, can we ask China to be a third party to this meaning they verify these actions on both sides?
We both trust China, you know.

Sounds reasonable to you?

 

[H!TchHiker]

Can you show me the video or wiki leaks where it says that he was shelterd by NDS?

Ashraf Ghani takes action against Pakistani Talis there is no doubt that, cant same the same for GHQ vis-a-vis Afghan Talis.
Our actions speak louder than words example being recent Pak Tali taken out but the other hand just give one only one example of such measure by Pakistan.



Sounds fair, can we ask China to be a third party to this meaning they verify these actions on both sides?
We both trust China, you know.

Sounds reasonable to you?

I think soul searching is needed on either side. Neither Afghanistan nor Pakistan is a saint.In my opinion Pakistan is just being responsive to Afghanistan although unequal in terms.Every body knows Musharaf was anti-taliban in his views and policy but then read this " "Fomenting uprising does not make one a terrorist," he (Kazrai) said in one meeting before asking US officials to stop taking notes because the matter was "too sensitive".
Karzai, who finally admitted that Brahamdagh Bugti was in Kabul
"If India wants to continue, let's see what our options will be," he (Musharaf) reportedly said.
Thursday, 19 February 2009, 16:07
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ISLAMABAD 000364
SIPDIS
EO 12958 DECL: 08/04/2018
TAGS ASEC, PTER, PGOV, PK, CASC
SUBJECT: UPDATE ON SOLECKI CASE
REF: ISLAMABAD 354
Classified By: Anne W. Patterson, for reasons 1.4 (b)(d)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/192891


This is what Barhamdagh said himself being protected by NDS
Bugti explained that once he fled to Afghanistan, he survived several attacks. "Once a car bomb exploded three houses behind mine," he said. "I had a very good relationship with the intelligence chief in Afghanistan, who sent me a message saying that the plan was to attack my house, but they attacked the wrong house."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brahamdagh...xile-since-grandfathers-assassination-1508624

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Do you seriously believe all this? and Do you think we are idiots? Stop l

Let me refresh you memory here, read this and this disucssion ends here and stop lying.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...2060e6-0f38-11e3-a2b3-5e107edf9897_story.html

" Hina Rabbani Khar, a former Pakistani foreign minister, told a TV show Tuesday that Pakistan would help facilitate peace talks but that Karzai’s government “must also show its seriousness.” She suggested that some of Karzai’s expectations of Pakistan were impractical, such as hoping that it would suddenly release Baradar as a goodwill gesture.

“Pakistan shall play the role of facilitator for talks between the Afghan peace council” and the Taliban, Khar said. “That is realistic. But if Karzai thinks Mullah Baradar could return in the plane with him, that is dramatic and unrealistic.”""

my dear Angry Afghan,
I am sure you have sound mental faculties to decide what to believe and what not to believe whatever is printed and aired on the media.

the Afghan Taliban that are in Pakistan are either those who are part of the 3 to 5 party negotiations for peaceful settlement of Afghan war. Pakistan is facilitating these talks in Murree.

anyone else like I said is either getting arrested or killed without exception. Hina Rabbani Khar was speaking for Pakistani government many years ago .. you need to come to the present. the talks in Dubai and Murree cant continue with the Afghan taliban if Mullah Barader's current situation is not suitable to Americans..
I dont want to hurt your feeling but Kabul regime unfortunately is not a strong stakeholder.. the way this bunch of racist thugs has treated ordinary Afghans specially Pashtons.. has made it very unpopular and gave ground to Afghan taliban even in the non-pashton areas. so stop ranting

I can post a video narrated by an American Marine on how Northern Alliance has treated Afghans which wont go well with you.

listen I am not interested in this pointless arguing anymore. your country is hosting some invited and uninvited guests who have their own designs so might as well take it with them why they need your land for proxy war with China, Iran or Pakistan.

 

[A-Team]

I think soul searching is needed on either side. Neither Afghanistan nor Pakistan is a saint.In my opinion Pakistan is just being responsive to Afghanistan although unequal in terms.Every body knows Musharaf was anti-taliban in his views and policy but then read this " "Fomenting uprising does not make one a terrorist," he (Kazrai) said in one meeting before asking US officials to stop taking notes because the matter was "too sensitive".
Karzai, who finally admitted that Brahamdagh Bugti was in Kabul
"If India wants to continue, let's see what our options will be," he (Musharaf) reportedly said.
Thursday, 19 February 2009, 16:07
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ISLAMABAD 000364
SIPDIS
EO 12958 DECL: 08/04/2018
TAGS ASEC, PTER, PGOV, PK, CASC
SUBJECT: UPDATE ON SOLECKI CASE
REF: ISLAMABAD 354
Classified By: Anne W. Patterson, for reasons 1.4 (b)(d)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/192891


This is what Barhamdagh said himself being protected by NDS
Bugti explained that once he fled to Afghanistan, he survived several attacks. "Once a car bomb exploded three houses behind mine," he said. "I had a very good relationship with the intelligence chief in Afghanistan, who sent me a message saying that the plan was to attack my house, but they attacked the wrong house."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brahamdagh...xile-since-grandfathers-assassination-1508624

So we are both not saints, I said this a hundred times.

Question is how do we move one from here, very easy I would say, we put our complaints on the table, take join actions against them and the ask China to verify them.

Make sense?

 

[F86 Saber]

I am usually a silent lurker, i observe but don't comment much and i find some of your posts sensible,emphasis on "Some".

A-Team said: ↑
Can you show me the video or wiki leaks where it says that he was shelterd by NDS?

The tone in your post suggests that you were either very confident that what the other member was saying was incorrect or you were very confident that although he was correct he would not be able to give an authentic link and you were adamant of your stance that Afghanistan is doing nothing but good for Pakistan.

So we are both not saints, I said this a hundred times.

So when he was able to provide a link and you had no choice but to accept it, you immediately took a U turn. So either you are not as "Informed" as you portray yourself of being or you are also a troll like most of our friends from the border across from the country you represent. In either case, you are not someone who wants to indulge in a healthy debate.