Spring between Turkey and Israel. Happy new Year

[Talwar e Pakistan]

You are talking past during Empire days. When Ottoman Empire reach its peak. Yes, many Arab tribes sided with Britain, those same Arab tribes are ones who agreed to creation of Israel even though they never got permission from my people. Some of them were Jordanian tribe leader. Arab world entered a phase a tribal ignorance at the time. They still are that way today, that's why Islam is the solution for them. Prophet Muhammad knew only Islam could cure the problems of Arabs and that's why he said don't ever let go of Islam or you will go astray. Arabs need time before they return to Islam and all of us will benefit. That doesn't make Israel reliable ally, all you need to do is look at history of Israel. It has back stabbed everyone in time of war. It bombed US Navy ship(USS Liberty) so it can occupy Arab territories. It sold weapons to Iran during Iran-Iraq war. These are just some examples. But anyway you can do as you wish, I'm just making the point that Israel won't benefit you in this regard and I wouldn't trust them.

Me myself I'm not big on ancient empires or ethnic background. I don't take that stuff seriously, everyone think the region belong to their ethnicity and that they are superior to everyone else. I don't like this mentality. In Palestine we have people of Turkmen descent, my grandma's grandma on one of my family side was Turkish. But this stuff doesn't concern me. I like my country(Palestine) and very enthusiastic about our cause but I see Islam as solution for the whole region overall. Not for one or two country. Islam won't work if we want it applied to one country. Islam works only as overall system.

More Arabs fought against the Revolt than the Arabs that fought against the Ottomans. Only Arab areas to revolt was Hejaz and Hashemite tribes. But Ottomans also had a fault by introducing Turkish nationalism thanks to the new reforms.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

what do you think

You answered already

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

And then there is the close relationship between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Islamabad has reportedly shared its nuclear secrets with Riyadh.


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Yes ofcourse, we love SA and Turkey but we will never side with Israel.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Yes ofcourse, we love SA and Turkey but we will never side with Israel.

It's chess board. Shia Iran is master of chess. India, China and Russia are not very friendly to Pakistan.
Iran tries to use the wind of nowadays time. Lets keep united against the Shia alliance. Otherwise Islam will loose and we will be defeated. Iran is trying to kill Sunna and Ummah in favour of his perverted aims. Look their culture insulting our prophet Mohammed CC in favour of Hazret Ali

 

[NL_Turk]

Israel-Qatar-Turkmenistan-Azerbaijan-IKRG.
These will be new gas supplier of EU and Turkey instead of Russia.
Iran wants to sell gas Europe via Turkey but.. i don't know..
And whats the common point ? TURKEY.

Hopefully also Israel with their Leviathan gas field.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Yes ofcourse, we love SA and Turkey but we will never side with Israel.

It's chess board. Shia Iran is master of chess. India, China and Russia are not very friendly to Pakistan.
Iran tries to use the wind of nowadays time. Lets keep united against the Shia alliance. Otherwise Islam will loose and we will be defeated. Iran is trying to kill Sunna and Umma

Hopefully also Israel with their Leviathan gas field.

That's the reason why Putin and the Mullahs get crazy. It was an old plan.
Turkey and Israel as the global terminal for Europe and also Far East;
supplied from Arab Peninsula, Mediterranean and Central Asia.

And EGYPT joined also !

Egypt Foreign Minister Saleh Sükri : " We want again brother like relations as before with Turkey !"

Mısır'dan Türkiye'ye barış çağrısı

@NL_Turk look what a surprise, Ottoman brotherhood coming ? Did Putin and Mullahs pissed off

 

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Now all that is left is South and North Cyprus to reach a deal..

 

[NL_Turk]

It's chess board. Shia Iran is master of chess. India, China and Russia are not very friendly to Pakistan.
Iran tries to use the wind of nowadays time. Lets keep united against the Shia alliance. Otherwise Islam will loose and we will be defeated. Iran is trying to kill Sunna and Umma


That's the reason why Putin and the Mullahs get crazy. It was an old plan.
Turkey and Israel as the global terminal for Europe and also Far East;
supplied from Arab Peninsula, Mediterranean and Central Asia.

And EGYPT joined also !

Egypt Foreign Minister Saleh Sükri : " We want again brother like relations as before with Turkey !"

Mısır'dan Türkiye'ye barış çağrısı

@NL_Turk look what a surprise, Ottoman brotherhood coming ? Did Putin and Mullahs pissed off

All good news, but quite a coincidence both happen at the same time. I wonder what happened behind closed door meetings.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Now all that is left is South and North Cyprus to reach a deal..

Spring / Summer 2016 part deal for Turkish EU membership later in 2019

2019 new EU fiscal plans will be calculated.

 

[Adıvar]

The relations between Jewish and Turks were always good until the flotilla crise which was an unnecessary thing. Jewish are the only nation among our neighbours who did not betray us. And all the Jewish people, some of whome were my customer, i happened to know, were good and honest.

I am glad things are getting good again.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

I am glad things are getting good again.

Believe me or not Israeli Police is 70 % from Anatolia origin. I was there long time ago and had as Turkish Citizen a VIP status in Airport, I could pasS through but Germans and others were detailed monitored . We had also training facilities in Eilat
F..vk the later imigrated Russian Jews who acted as stay behind agents for the Russiand.
We have/had also non Muslim officers and soldiers in our Armed Forces.

 

[farag]

I am very happy about this. I knew it will happen sooner or later. Hamas is so screwed, those bastards.

Seems like the start of a pact against Iran and Co has started and Israel plans to be in it. @Hurshid Celebi our resident geopolitical analyst, what do you think ?

Not a new pact, it started after hosting the radars against iran.

It's chess board. Shia Iran is master of chess. India, China and Russia are not very friendly to Pakistan.
Iran tries to use the wind of nowadays time. Lets keep united against the Shia alliance. Otherwise Islam will loose and we will be defeated. Iran is trying to kill Sunna and Umma


That's the reason why Putin and the Mullahs get crazy. It was an old plan.
Turkey and Israel as the global terminal for Europe and also Far East;
supplied from Arab Peninsula, Mediterranean and Central Asia.

And EGYPT joined also !

Egypt Foreign Minister Saleh Sükri : " We want again brother like relations as before with Turkey !"

Mısır'dan Türkiye'ye barış çağrısı

@NL_Turk look what a surprise, Ottoman brotherhood coming ? Did Putin and Mullahs pissed off

Did you say china is against pakistan? It is actually her best friend.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

It is actually her best friend

I don't believe in it, in real life all is taking and giving between nations.
Do you believe that Egyptian people and Turkish people were real enemies the last 3 years ?
It is a brutal chess game in WW3. I hope it will not escalate to a not calculable war.
That's the reason our Islamic brothers and all neighbors should be united for their nations sake.

We have to keep ratio, cool mind and share the benefits together.
From Pakistan to Morocco, all countries in the green belt. EXCEPT IRAN - if they don't change their brutal plans supporting global proxy terror WARS. Israel has to be tolerated and Palestine a free peaceful democratic country.

 

[what]

Only reliable country in the region period.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

The relations between Jewish and Turks were always good until the flotilla crise which was an unnecessary thing. Jewish are the only nation among our neighbours who did not betray us. And all the Jewish people, some of whome were my customer, i happened to know, were good and honest.

I am glad things are getting good again.

Who exactly betrayed you?