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That is all what you Arabs think. Nobody will lift a finger. Apparently the rebels did, and guess what, you guys were not able to do anything. You Arabs are the most laziest people on this planet. This is not me just talking, anyone who has worked with Arabs will tell you that. You guys live in your bubble, thinking you are pure or something like that. Get out in the real world, and see what the world thinks of you.

When will your pea sized brain once and for all understand that Houthis are Arabs themselves? That all parties fighting in the civil war in Yemen are Arabs? That 99.99% of the fighting on the ground is done by Yemenis fighting for various Yemeni factions? That KSA's role in Yemen is limited to what I wrote?

The world respects the history of the Arab world (cradle of civilization), 10's of millions of tourists from the West alone visit the Arab world (one of the most popular tourists destinations for them), East and from elsewhere visit Arab countries. Millions of non-Arabs study Arabic (one of the most spoken and influential languages in the world and 1 of the 5 official UN languages). Many educated and well-travelled and well-studied people have a great interest in the Arab world regardless of faith.

Arabs are well-known for their hospitality as well.

I have been watching quite a few Western, African, Eastern, Latin etc. Youtubers visiting KSA alone and only having positive things to say as well as showcasing the great hospitality of the locals. In general Middle Eastern people are very famous for their hospitality.

I don't care about what ignorant people have to say about Arabs or anything else in life nor do I care about their grievances about governments/regimes in power as that is not the work of the average people. Nor is there a single perfect people or country.

If I were you, I would rather worry about my own backyard. You are the last person to be talking about "reputation". Last time I checked you are not from Denmark, Switzerland or Norway. You should not be talking about terrorism either when Pakistan is 100 times worse than KSA. You should not be talking about mosque seizures (1 such case in KSA) from over 41 years ago when you have had numerous mosque seizures in recent years alone.

In fact Pakistan was one of the few countries that allowed people to gather in mosques despite the COVID-19 pandemic even though Makkah and Madinah has been closed off since March!

You talk about literacy, when 40% of your population cannot read or write their own name while KSA has a literacy rate approaching 100%.

You talk about wars etc. yet we all know the situation of Kashmir for 70 + years, East Bengal, all the terrorist groups roaming around Pakistan etc. Using your messed up logic, Pakistan is 100 times worse. That is the modern era, I don't need to teach you the historic military achievements of Arabs that few people on earth can compete with as you learn that in school in Pakistan already.

And that is ignoring all your unmotivated personal insults, insults at Arabs, openly calling for the genocide of Arabs etc. You are a mentally ill person.

Anyway what is really funny about all this is, that your likes would get their asses kicked by any Arab if your ran your mouth off as you do here behind your keyboard.
 
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Russia and CHina are currently giving Syria and Venezuela protection imo.
Turkey invading North-West, US invading North East, Israel bombing it whenever they want. Russia is doing a very bad job if they are giving protection to Syria.

China has no footprint in Syria.
 
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This idiot is asking for it after his unmotivated insults, comments of wanting to kill all Arabs and other insane keyboard warrior nonsense. This individual clearly has a few screws loose in his head. I am ending it here.

Bro, If I felt anything constructive could come out of that discussion I would have encouraged you to go on. But remember you're probably discussing with someone that does not care for the substance of your comments one bit. They will always just reply in a way just to spite you. In the end, he might get banned and you might get banned and what you have really achieved? There's plenty of open minded here for your to converse with, people that actually are open to changing their views.
 
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Protection from whom? No regional power has ever, can or will ever invade KSA. Nor will the people remove the government as long as it enjoys majority support. KSA-USA relations are deep and transcend every sphere be it economy, military, education, investment, agriculture, technology and science, geopolitics etc.

Using your logic, Turkey is a NATO puppet whose sovereignity is owed to the same NATO as otherwise it would have become a Russian USSR state after WW2.

Turkish soldiers were sent to Korea 15.000 km away to act like mercenaries in a war between between imperial powers. Let alone other NATO conflicts. Yet the same NATO treats Turkey badly and humiliates it in public and the US is not even willing to sell Patriots and key components (engines etc.) to Turkey despite so many years of NATO membership.

Call me the next time that Saudi Arabian soldiers are used as mercenaries for US wars.

I'm not gonna spend my time by refuting your lies on my country.

Just come back to me when you can protect your country from other countries by yourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Abqaiq–Khurais_attack
 
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Bro, If I felt anything constructive could come out of that discussion I would have encouraged you to go on. But remember you're probably discussing with someone that does not care for the substance of your comments one bit. They will always just reply in a way just to spite you. In the end, he might get banned and you might get banned and what you have really achieved? There's plenty of open minded here for your to converse with, people that actually are open to changing their views.

Well, the moderators are free to ban me. I stopped taking this forum seriously ages ago. There is a reason why 99% of all Arab users have left and most of the well-respected users on PDF, whether Pakistani or non-Pakistani. The few quality users that remain are hardly active anymore. Now we have a bunch of trolls that do nothing but troll, meddle in affairs that they have nothing to do with, call for genocide of an entire people behind their keyboards, make unmotivated personal insults, posting propaganda (like this thread is an example of as already proved) etc.

Anyway I have already written to WebMaster and some mods what I think about such type of moderation on PDF. Quite clearly traffic is preferred over quality discussions/sane interactions and to this day the Arab section do not have 1 moderator even though it is one of the most peaceful sections on PDF despite a recent troll influx. Anyway PDF is dying so let it die off quicker if status quo won't change. The main problem with PDF is that it is highly addictive.

Anyway, I know that I have reached his level and that makes me just as bad but this is due to the inactivity of the moderation team to combat unmotivated Arab-bashing by a few loudmouths on PDF. Arabs are a very proud people we don't tend to insult guests on our forums out of nowhere or at all (unless provoked directly) nor do we tolerate such behavior in person. Such individuals clearly have a screw or two loose.

I'm not gonna spend my time by refuting your lies on my country.

Just come back to me when you can protect your country from other countries by yourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Abqaiq–Khurais_attack

Which lies did I wrote? Everything that I wrote can be backed up with facts.

Is that all that you have? Some drone attack on an oil facility that did not kill anyone? Shall I mention the 100's of terrorist attacks in Turkey? Call me the next time that KSA cannot defeat local terrorists (PKK) as is the case with Turkey in the past 40 + years.

And last time I checked this attack was replied with in Northern Yemen - an ongoing conflict where KSA is not shying away from acting.

Lastly, what I saw in this thread, based on a unproven lie as I already showcased in my initial post for all to see, is zero Arab users but a bunch of obsessed non-Arabs making ridiculous troll posts and showcasing their butthurt. Not the other way around.
 
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Anyway what is really funny about all this is, that your likes would get their asses kicked by any Arab if your ran your mouth off as you do here behind your keyboard.

You keep saying that. But we both know Arabs are pathetic monkeys. They are losing in a battle with guns, they would lose a fight easily. Remember when your pathetic police was rescued by Pakistan people when they were attacked by people from Africa. Hundreds of times Pakistani had to setup in to protect little weak Saudi boys.

You talk about literacy, when 40% of your population cannot read or write their own name while KSA has a literacy rate approaching 100%.

But still can't operate weapons properly or protect their own people. You would think, with 100% literacy rate Monkeys in graduation suits doesn't make a monkey smart.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020...leading-scientific-publications-in-the-world/

No Arab country is the top leading scientific publication. In fact, it was reported Egypt and KSA were top countries that had plagiarized published work in the world. Pumping unoriginal articles in large numbers doesn't make you smart.

https://www.al-fanarmedia.org/2019/...-global-problem-that-includes-the-arab-world/

Don't let this bubble pop
 
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You keep saying that. But we both know Arabs are pathetic monkeys. They are losing in a battle with guns, they would lose a fight easily. Remember when your pathetic police was rescued by Pakistan people when they were attacked by people from Africa. Hundreds of times Pakistani had to setup in to protect little weak Saudi boys.



But still can't operate weapons properly or protect their own people. You would think, with 100% literacy rate Monkeys in graduation suits doesn't make a monkey smart.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020...leading-scientific-publications-in-the-world/

No Arab country is the top leading scientific publication. In fact, it was reported Egypt and KSA were top countries that had plagiarized published work in the world. Pumping unoriginal articles in large numbers doesn't make you smart.

https://www.al-fanarmedia.org/2019/...-global-problem-that-includes-the-arab-world/

Don't let this bubble pop

More of your pathetic fairytales stories, my Arabized clown?

As I wrote, your military history is not even 5% of the Arab military history. There is no comparison really. No need to remind you who conquered who and who ruled the largest Muslim empires in history from France to Western China. Nor the size of the territory that Arabs control. KSA alone is 3 times the size of Pakistan to put it into perspective.

Yes, is that why KSA remains one of the most secure nations on the planet?

KSA's universities are the best ranked in the Muslim world. Our hospitals are the best ranked in the MENA region along with Israeli ones. Most per capita scientific papers in the Muslim/developing world compared to the population ratio.


World-renowned Science Magazine talks about all this in depth.

https://idp.nature.com/authorize?response_type=cookie&client_id=grover&redirect_uri=https://www.nature.com/articles/532S13a

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/oiling-the-wheels-on-a-road-to-success-in-saudi-arabia.428713/page-7

You can check the country rankings and compare it to population ratio.

https://www.scimagojr.com

3 Saudi Arabian women found themselves on Forbes list of leading women pioneers/scientists in the field of artificial intelligence in the world recently. Latifa Al-Abdulkarim, Deema Al-Athel and Moudhi Al-Jamea.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/markmi...century-ai-movement-part-2-of-2/#265d780f2f05

You can check how KSA has handled the COVID-19 as well. We have one of the lowest death ratios compared to cases in the world.

Several booming industries from renewables, mining, finance, trade, science, education, agriculture, manufacturing etc.


Here are some more statistics:

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All that with a 6.5 times smaller population.

Here is a "Made in KSA" thread. Not updated much lately but see my latest post in that thread and the links.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/made-in-ksa.475488/page-35

Anyway KSA has a long way to go and there is need to improve a lot on every field, much untapped potential too with a booming and one of the youngest populations in the world (MBS has helped remove most of the moronic laws in place and is changing the society, increasing the women workforce, opening KSA up to foreign investments and the society as a whole, climbing down on ultra-conservative voices (clerics) etc.

However your propaganda has no grounds on earth.

You know what, I am not sure why I continue to waste my time on you and such nonsense threads/discussions.
 
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More of your pathetic fairytales stories, my Arabized clown?

As I wrote, your military history is not even 5% of the Arab military history. There is no comparison really. No need to remind you who conquered who and who ruled the largest Muslim empires in history from France to Western China. Nor the size of the territory that Arabs control. KSA alone is 3 times the size of Pakistan to put it into perspective.

HAHAH. popped another bubble monkey!! There is more for you to open you eyes too.

With such a mighty history, i wonder why you need help from other countries. Let not forget the racism that is rampant in your country.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/arab-world-needs-admit-its-racist

https://www.albawaba.com/news/we-need-talk-about-racism-arab-world-1285707

https://www.telesurenglish.net/anal...ist-Countries-in-the-World-20150320-0019.html

https://stepfeed.com/racism-and-beyond-black-arabs-talk-about-the-racism-they-encounter-7331

https://nation.com.pk/05-Apr-2015/b...audi-arabia-is-trying-to-divide-pakistan-army

And here you are talking about Arab being the most peaceful people ever. This is just a small bit of the amount of racism. Don't forget the incident where your police deported a black Saudi to Somalian because he could not speak, and your police thought he was a Somalian. It was such a embarrassment for your MOI. But it proved a point, Arab are the most racist people on this planet.

I am glad lot of Pakistani are opening their eyes to both your kind and Persian. Both are not look favorable by our people now that they have opened their eyes to what you guys are truly like.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1175284

Maybe that is why no gives attention to the crying Saudi boy here, when he is comforted with facts. I wish you people could change, but i don't see that happening one bit.
 
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under control? you must live in pipe dream.
I have used the wrong word what I meant is the governments from all those countries mentioned previously are US allies same will happen with next saudi regime/government that was actually my point from the beginning
 
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I have used the wrong word what I meant is the governments from all those countries mentioned previously are US allies same will happen with next saudi regime/government that was actually my point from the beginning
No countries has unlimited control over another. It's all about interest.
You see US influence, but how about the cost? It's bad investment as a foreign relationship.
 
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I used to respect saudis before especially the patriach Ibn Saud. But modern saudis are simply worshippers of wealth and draconian desireres of regime change in yemen. They lost all respect.
 
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Is that all that you have? Some drone attack on an oil facility that did not kill anyone? Shall I mention the 100's of terrorist attacks in Turkey? Call me the next time that KSA cannot defeat local terrorists (PKK) as is the case with Turkey in the past 40 + years.

We have seen S.Arabia in Yemen against Houtsis .... S.Arabia could not fight even for 4 years



and PKK is not local terrorist organization ... Turkish Army always could defeat Pkk in Turkish soil , but

-- there are many Pkk terror camps in Iraq and Iran ... and since 1992 Pkk terrorists attacked Turkey from Iraq and Iran
Iran always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey

-- Pkk terror organization was born in Afrin/Syria .. even 1/3 of Pkk terrorists were Syrian origin
and OCALAN ( Leader of Pkk ) lived in Damascus/ Syria until 1999
Syrian Regime always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey

also there were PKK terror camps in Lebanon
also there are PKK terror camps in Armenia
also the EU including Germany and France always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey
also the US and Israel always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey
even S.Arabia and The Uae have started supporting Pkk terror organization against Turkey

S.Arabia and The Uae gives billion dollars to arm Pkk/Ypg terrorists in Syria
and the US deployed over 50.000 of Truckloads and over 2.000 Cargo planes of weapons and military equipments in Syria to arm the US trained over 60.000 Pkk/Ypg terrorists in Syria against Turkey


Loser PKK who could not take even 1cm2 of land from Turkey since 1985
and Loser PKK sucked in Iraq and Syria

Thanks to great Turkish Army
 
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We have seen S.Arabia in Yemen against Houtsis .... S.Arabia could not fight even for 4 years



and PKK is not local terrorist organization ... Turkish Army always could defeat Pkk in Turkish soil , but

-- there are many Pkk terror camps in Iraq and Iran ... and since 1992 Pkk terrorists attacked Turkey from Iraq and Iran
Iran always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey

-- Pkk terror organization was born in Afrin/Syria .. even 1/3 of Pkk terrorists were Syrian origin
and OCALAN ( Leader of Pkk ) lived in Damascus/ Syria until 1999
Syrian Regime always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey

also there were PKK terror camps in Lebanon
also the EU including Germany and France always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey
also the US and Israel always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey
even S.Arabia and The Uae have started supporting Pkk terror organization against Turkey

S.Arabia and The Uae gives billion dollars to arm Pkk/Ypg terrorists in Syria
and the US deployed over 50.000 of Truckloads and over 2.000 Cargo planes of weapons and military equipments in Syria to arm the US trained over 60.000 Pkk/Ypg terrorists in Syria against Turkey


Loser PKK who could not take even 1cm2 of land from Turkey since 1985
and Loser PKK sucked in Iraq and Syria

Thanks to great Turkish Army
Can you stop spreading your lies? Pkk is designated a terrorist organization in Israel and aren't supported by Israel
 
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Can you stop spreading your lies? Pkk is designated a terrorist organization in Israel and aren't supported by Israel


Israel’s deputy foreign minister Tzipi Hotovely said admitted that Israel is assisting the YPG, the Syrian branch of the PKK terrorist organisation
https://www.trtworld.com/middle-eas...-with-regard-to-the-terrorist-ypg-group-31235

Netanyahu: Israel Supports the Establishment of an Independent Kurdistan
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...ablishment-of-independent-kurdistan-1.5450316


https://insidearabia.com/israels-pkk-ypg-kurdish-connections/

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/syria-kurds-oil-sdf-israel-lobby-kahana.html

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-support-for-ypg-pkk-reeks-of-great-game/1618127

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/ypg-pkk-terrorists-seek-israel-s-help-against-turkey/1623428



S.Arabia , The Uae , Israel were allies against Turkey and Iran

Israeli Dore Gold and Saudi Anwar Eshki shake hands at a CFR in 2015
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7 items Israel and S. Arabia to act together in the next period

1- between Arabs and Israel ensuring peace.

2- Changing the political system in Iran.

3- Gulf Cooperation Council Association.

4- Reviving the port of Aden to ensure peace in Yemen and balance the employment demography in the Gulf.

5- Creation of an Arab Force with American and European abundance to protect Arab countries as well as Gulf countries.

6- Rapid establishment of the foundations of democracy based on Islamic principles in the Arab world.

7- the creation of Greater Kurdistan in Iran , Turkey and Iraq
and weaken its ambitions in favor of partitioning the three countries.
 
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