Special Report: Trump told Saudis: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources

[925boy]

China has no footprint in Syria.

Correct, but protection doesnt have to be physical - a UNSC member like CHina protecting you in the UN is even more valuable than physical troops on ground.

 

[-SINAN-]

Correct, but protection doesnt have to be physical - a UNSC member like CHina protecting you in the UN is even more valuable than physical troops on ground.

As if UNSC protected all those countries invaded by US....

 

[925boy]

As if UNSC protected all those countries invaded by US....

IF Russia and CHina support you today - physical or non-physical, public or secret, AMerica cant do crap about you. if you think a UNSC member voting to stop sanctions or legalize attack on a country mean nothing, that just means you've been in NATO Too long and dont understand how much privilege you have.

 

[-SINAN-]

IF Russia and CHina support you today - physical or non-physical, public or secret, AMerica cant do crap about you. if you think a UNSC member voting to stop sanctions or legalize attack on a country mean nothing, that just means you've been in NATO Too long and dont understand how much privilege you have.

I don't think so but let's leave at that.

 

[Musick]

First, find me 1 post where I expressed hate against fellow Arabs. You'll never find it. Actually, the charge makes no sense at all. My prayers and my dua are with every Muslim, including the brethren in the Arabian Peninsula.

Second, Saudi support to the Al-Shabaab is discussed in this discussion in the US Congress:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1139253633353158657

Third, UAE is proven to be the country that is heavily involved in with Al-Shabaab. They provide explosives, funding, arms and intelligence.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1256160867680485376

With respect to division of Somalia, the secessionists were empowered by Emaratis, UK. And since everything the Emiratis are doing have the Saudi blessing, the Saudi govt is in i as well. If secessionists in Saudi Arabia have the means to do and have the backing of foreign powers, they would've done so. Both Saudi and Emarati governments are funding and empowering the renegade regional govts in order to derail the Turkish support to Somalia. While Turkey assists the state institutions and civil infrastructure, the duo Arab regimes are doing everything they can to derail it.

Fourth, the biggest donor is Turkey, not the Saudi nor the Muricans. It got to the point, where Yamamoto - the US Anbassador - is demanding the Somali government to scale down its relationship with Turkey. So far President Farmaajo resisted it. The Saudi and Emaratis were demanding the same thing and when that didn't work, their big boss and master Uncle Sam is now demanding the same thing. It is the Deep State who are now demanding the same thing.

That being said, here is Amirul Mu'miniin Tayyib Ergodan and People of Turkey helping us beat the Corona virus.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1256580981412241409

Fyi, I'm not 51. I wish I was that age. I'm also from the north for what you referred to Somaliland but don't believe in the crap called separate country. It is a project inspired by foreign powers since Somalia is resource rich.

It's a well known fact that bandits who smuggle contrabands of weapons using Afar-Harerghe-Somali contraband route were for years deliberately ignored by corrupt officials who profited from from this kind of weapons smuggling. Crazy how some of you hold biased stance and support Turkey when the Pasha who would practice royal infanticide could one day raid you as means of solidifying his expansionism ​

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

It's a well known fact that bandits who smuggle contrabands of weapons using Afar-Harerghe-Somali contraband route were for years deliberately ignored by corrupt officials who profited from from this kind of weapons smuggling. Crazy how some of you hold biased stance and support Turkey when the Pasha who would practice royal infanticide could one day raid you as means of solidifying his expansionism ​

I have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[925boy]

As if UNSC protected all those countries invaded by US....

It would have protected Gaddafi!

 

[Musick]

I have no clue what you're talking about.

Well let me explain this to you in more detail. First and foremost, I brought this up because I found it a little bit obnoxious to read some of your scapegoating. Sorry for my language. I think the root cause of disunity in the region is racial prejudice and social discrimination against other ethnic groups despite us all collectively sharing East-African Cushitic identity. There is no hiding that. It is true that regional bullies have laid the groundwork for instability and division by supporting separatists so that they can exploit us while we’re busy doing the homework they’ve assigned to us. Their role is to be act as mediators or intervene like peacemakers.... They've decided this is the way our region to be. But that doesn't justify becoming a client state. Just look at the unfolding situation in other places. Personally, I would like to see our countries finding ways to keep ties strictly to commercial relations only and stop others from bringing their never-ending dispute to the region. That's to everyone's benefit.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Well let me explain this to you in more detail. First and foremost, I brought this up because I found it a little bit obnoxious to read some of your scapegoating. Sorry for my language. I think the root cause of disunity in the region is racial prejudice and social discrimination against other ethnic groups despite us all collectively sharing East-African Cushitic identity. There is no hiding that. It is true that regional bullies have laid the groundwork for instability and division by supporting separatists so that they can exploit us while we’re busy doing the homework they’ve assigned to us. Their role is to be act as mediators or intervene like peacemakers.... They've decided this is the way our region to be. But that doesn't justify becoming a client state. Just look at the unfolding situation in other places. Personally, I would like to see our countries finding ways to keep ties strictly to commercial relations only and stop others from bringing their never-ending dispute to the region. That's to everyone's benefit.

In that case, why are you hosting Emarati military base in Assab, Eritrea - a base that is used to suffocate the Yemeni people? http://www.madote.com/2016/09/how-eritreas-assab-port-became-major.html

That same base has also been used to by the terrorist state of UAE to support renegade warlord Haftar in Libya.

According to a report by the Guardian on Wednesday, most of the suspect Emirati flights leave military bases in the UAE, while some others depart from a UAE-run base in Eritrea, where a dictatorial regime is in charge and there is almost no international monitoring.

“In all, the flights are thought to have carried about 5,000 metric tons of cargo into Libya in very large chartered transport planes that land at an airport close to Benghazi, Haftar’s coastal stronghold, or in western Egypt, from where their loads are thought to be trucked into Libya,” the report added.

The Guardian further noted that these shipments might contain heavier artillery plus other arms and ammunition. The LNA has recently pounded the center of Tripoli with shelling from long-range artillery.

The shipments “may also include communications technology, spare parts, basic equipment and other non-lethal items necessary for fighting a war,” the report cited unnamed experts as saying.

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/othe...ya-despite-un-arms-embargo-report/ar-BB116QKH

So look inward instead of preaching nonsense in the forum.

 

[Musick]

In that case, why are you hosting Emarati military base in Assab, Eritrea - a base that is used to suffocate the Yemeni people? http://www.madote.com/2016/09/how-eritreas-assab-port-became-major.html

That same base has also been used to by the terrorist state of UAE to support renegade warlord Haftar in Libya.




https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/othe...ya-despite-un-arms-embargo-report/ar-BB116QKH

So look inward instead of preaching nonsense in the forum.

When did you hear Eritreans declaring bin Zayed or Sisi to be some sort of Sultan figures or something? I've nothing against good bilateral relations with other countries if their investments are not to colonize us.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

When did you hear Eritreans declaring bin Zayed or Sisi to be some sort of Sultan figures or something? I've nothing against good bilateral relations with other countries if their investments are not to colonize us.

Well, you claimed the following. So how you can preach that when you're being used as a client state, where your territory is being used to suffocate neighboring Yemen, a Muslim state, who is a neighbor to you, and whose people are facing the worst humanitarian crises - one that is man-made and caused by the same forces who have military bases in your territory? Do you see the client state here?

They're also bringing their disputes to you when attacks on Libya, an African a fellow Muslim state, are initiated from your territory. Yet you have an obsession with Turkey who has done no harm to you. Give me a break.

"They've decided this is the way our region to be. But that doesn't justify becoming a client state. Just look at the unfolding situation in other places. Personally, I would like to see our countries finding ways to keep ties strictly to commercial relations only and stop others from bringing their never-ending dispute to the region. That's to everyone's benefit."

 

[The SC]

Special reports:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-2020-oil-crashs-unlikely-winner-saudi-arabia.665445/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hostility-to-oil-and-the-saudi-response.665429/

 

[Musick]

Well, you claimed the following. So how you can preach that when you're being used as a client state, where your territory is being used to suffocate neighboring Yemen, a Muslim state, who is a neighbor to you, and whose people are facing the worst humanitarian crises - one that is man-made and caused by the same forces who have military bases in your territory? Do you see the client state here?

They're also bringing their disputes to you when attacks on Libya, an African a fellow Muslim state, are initiated from your territory. Yet you have an obsession with Turkey who has done no harm to you. Give me a break.

"They've decided this is the way our region to be. But that doesn't justify becoming a client state. Just look at the unfolding situation in other places. Personally, I would like to see our countries finding ways to keep ties strictly to commercial relations only and stop others from bringing their never-ending dispute to the region. That's to everyone's benefit."

Don't know much about the attacks on Libya or being involved in sieging but hope calm and stability is restored. The truth of the matter is that UAE seeks to grow her influence on the Horn of Africa region and Egypt feels its water security threatened and seeks to have a military foothold near Ethiopia.
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/engli...t-to-build-naval-base-in-Eritreas-Nora-island
Turks are brave people with great traditions and Turkey is a rising regional power and will hopefully use its power responsibly. I've nothing against Turks but they shouldn't be using their AI techs across Africa just like they were the first to introduce and use modern firearms and artillery on barefooted Africans. What you're posting in here supporting good Qatar, Turkey, and Iran axis vs evil UAE, Saudi Arabia and Egypt sphere of influence is nothing but a false dichotomy. Your perception is tainted and need to learn more about history before harping on things you know nothing about. Adieu

 

[Ansu fati]

Don't know much about the attacks on Libya or being involved in sieging but hope calm and stability is restored. The truth of the matter is that UAE seeks to grow her influence on the Horn of Africa region and Egypt feels its water security threatened and seeks to have a military foothold near Ethiopia.
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/engli...t-to-build-naval-base-in-Eritreas-Nora-island
Turks are brave people with great traditions and Turkey is a rising regional power and will hopefully use its power responsibly. I've nothing against Turks but they shouldn't be using their AI techs across Africa just like they were the first to introduce and use modern firearms and artillery on barefooted Africans. What you're posting in here supporting good Qatar, Turkey, and Iran axis vs evil UAE, Saudi Arabia and Egypt sphere of influence is nothing but a false dichotomy. Your perception is tainted and need to learn more about history before harping on things you know nothing about. Adieu

Can you back up your claim about ”they shouldn't be using their AI techs across Africa just like they were the first to introduce and use modern firearms and artillery on barefooted Africans”???
Turkish drones are used only for haftar mercenary army you should visit the thread about Libya and you will find that UAE and their puppet haftar is responsible for 80% of civilian causalities these statistics have been made by UN(we are talking about the same organization which failed to mention UAE until recently)
While you exonerate UAE and justify their actions you aren’t doing the same when you speak about Turkey
Compare what have done arabs and europeans to you and what have done turks to you...(hint you aren’t speaking turkish but whole Africa is speaking french arabic and english)

 

[Musick]

Can you back up your claim about ”they shouldn't be using their AI techs across Africa just like they were the first to introduce and use modern firearms and artillery on barefooted Africans”???
Turkish drones are used only for haftar mercenary army you should visit the thread about Libya and you will find that UAE and their puppet haftar is responsible for 80% of civilian causalities these statistics have been made by UN(we are talking about the same organization which failed to mention UAE until recently)
While you exonerate UAE and justify their actions you aren’t doing the same when you speak about Turkey
Compare what have done arabs and europeans to you and what have done turks to you...(hint you aren’t speaking turkish but whole Africa is speaking french arabic and english)

What is Turkey doing in Libya? Isn’t it backing Tripoli Government for its own interests to export weapons and steal Libyan mineral wealth? Haftar is a puppet but what about GNA that invites a foreign state to target its own people? Everyone will turn their back on the them once they get fed up. Haftar controls most of the country and he can help end the chaos and unite the country.

In history, foreign invader masquerading as liberators sponsored proxy civil wars in Abyssinia that ultimately devastated the regional economies for centuries. In one 500 year old book written by a mercenary, it mentions how it took them 25 days to finish looting a single gold vault. Libya was the one richest African countries and it’s now become a failed state. Let them solve their problem.