Special forces of India

[Abingdonboy]

An oldish article about INDIAN SF and its roles in the future, but it is quite informative so thought I'd share:

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/SRR/2...forces-reorganising-for-an-expanding-role.pdf

 

[ajtr]

No one for Force One as cops avoid elite unit​

Lack of equipment and weapons apart, the commando force is struggling for officers

By Deeptiman Tiwary
Posted On Monday, February 21, 2011


The Force One farce is dipping abysmally. In November last year, Mumbai Mirror had reported Force One - the elite unit State raised, or rather promised to, in the wake 26/11 attacks - had only a handful of bullet-proof jackets, no hands-free radios, night sights for weapons, stun grenades or even trainers.



Now, it has emerged that no officer even wants to be part of the ‘elite’ unit. The unit, which has a sanctioned strength of 350, is 47 officers short.

This, despite repeated calls by the State to officers asking them to take up the Force One assignment. Police sources said officers avoid the unit because it will hamper their “extra income”.

Most of the vacant positions are awaiting officer-level appointments. Interestingly, there is no dearth of constables volunteering for the job - evident from the fact that only four of over 200 commando posts are vacant.

Regarding officer-level appointments, the force doesn’t even have a superintendent. Data obtained from Force One and Maharashtra Police Headquarters state the unit needs a superintendent, deputy superintendent, four assistant inspectors and 15 sub-inspectors.

The sanctioned strength for these categories are one, two, 10 and 34 respectively.

A Force One officer said, “The Home Department is trying to bring in good officers to the unit but there has been little response. Even the incentive of officers being offered a salary hike of one-and-a-half times hasn’t worked.”

The officer said apart from the extra income part, not many cops were willing to put themselves through the daily grind in the force. He said, “Corrupt cops don’t depend on salaries. But in Force One, officers have to undergo daily training and practice regimes. Life can get tough.”

Authorities said forcing policemen to join the force would prove counter-productive. Additional Director General (Establishment) B K Upadhyay, “Only self-driven and highly committed officers can make the force a success. You can’t expect an officer who has been forced to join the unit to deliver.”

The State did compel officers to fight Naxals in Gadhchiroli, and policemen from that region have shown willingness to join Force One.

In response to a circular issued a year ago regarding appointments to Force One, most applications came in from officers in Gadhchiroli and other Naxal-affected areas. One application came from Solapur, and one from Nashik.

A Home Department official said, “It’s a catch-22 situation. We can’t pull out cops from Naxal-hit areas and get them in Force One. If we start doing it, there would be no policeman left in Gadchiroli.”

Lack of officers is severely denting the force, an officer said. “We need leaders to form strategies and lead commandos.

Officers are also needed to handle administrative work.” The State police is now pegging its hopes on the fresh batch of 600 officers coming out of Nashik Police Training Institute in June. Upadhyay said, “These will be young, idealistic and energetic officers.

We hope many of them will be ready to take up the Force One challenge.”

 

[ajtr]

Mumbai cops skip shooting practice​

MUMBAI: In a city where crime is big and terrorists love to strike, the police force seems to have taken a dislike to target practice. In the last couple of months, only a handful of personnel have been reporting to the firing range at Ghatkopar every day to train.

The attendance records are so abysmal that Mumbai police commissioner Sanjeev Dayal had to recently issue stern notices to the 90 police stations across the city as well as other branches like the crime branch forcing them to ensure that all personnel clock the annual requisite time-slot of just 20 minutes (once a year) at the firing range. Even encounter specialists were pulled up for not training regularly.

The course is not even very demanding: according to Bombay police service rules, it is mandatory for every policeman to practise long-range (using rifles) and short-range (revolvers and pistols) shooting at the Ghatkopar and Naigaum firing ranges at least for one day in the whole year. In fact, critics say the training should be more rigorous, as currently, a policeman has to put in only 20 minutes of practice for the year. But going by the police chief's admonition, it appears that few cops bother to hone their skills.

Incidentally, in the aftermath of 26/11, cops would drop in at the training ground in droves, with more than 50 to 80 personnel reporting for practice every day. The numbers began to dwindle at the start of 2010. For instance, TOI has learned that on July 26, only nine policemen reported for target practice at Ghatkopar. The following day, the attendance was two. Sources say it's a similar scene at Naigaum.

Read more: Mumbai cops skip shooting practice - The Times of India Mumbai cops skip shooting practice - The Times of India

 

[IndianArmy]

Does anyone know if the Force one is still Given training in Israel or India? Have they got there Base ready or still struggling with the maharashtra govt??

 

[Abingdonboy]

I would just like to ask a question in regards to the ongoing crisis in Libya where 18,000 Indian citizens are (the most of any country but the GOI's response is one of the slowest):

are there any plans to launch a Special Forces mission to rescue Indian oil workers who are stuck deep in the desert and unable to move to Tripoli or Beharzi, there is talk such a plan is being drawn up by UK using the SAS and a C-130 Herc. Given IAF has recently received their new C-1300-30j Super Hercs and Guarud/Para SF/MARCOs are trained for such ops is there any plans/possibility of such an op being launched by GOI??

 

[Frank Martin]

Does anyone know if the Force one is still Given training in Israel or India? Have they got there Base ready or still struggling with the maharashtra govt??

Force one commandos mainly trained by Maharashtra Intelligence Academy,the college of military engineering also trained by Israel and German trainers mostly in India..
The works on the base in Goregaon will start from April this year.

 

[misterme2]

The article clearly quotes "extra income" meaning corruption/bribes......the India public is sensitized to this which is damn shame. There is no hope unless these acts are clearly dealt with a swift hard dose of justice. It requires folks there to march and protest continuously for days for accountability, get the attention of the media and politicians. No more caste politics, WE WANT RESULTS>

 

[jamesbaldwin]

I would just like to ask a question in regards to the ongoing crisis in Libya where 18,000 Indian citizens are (the most of any country but the GOI's response is one of the slowest):

are there any plans to launch a Special Forces mission to rescue Indian oil workers who are stuck deep in the desert and unable to move to Tripoli or Beharzi, there is talk such a plan is being drawn up by UK using the SAS and a C-130 Herc. Given IAF has recently received their new C-1300-30j Super Hercs and Guarud/Para SF/MARCOs are trained for such ops is there any plans/possibility of such an op being launched by GOI??

Would be interesting to see an SF mission launched by GOI outside Asia, if the a2a refulling probe is attatched by now an il 78 could take it there and back without stopping, it's a shame IAF only has 1 as of now- limiting their payload, posibly a combined op with RAF Hercs aswell?? Would IAF Herc crews be fully trained up yet?? would be a hell of a story- 1 month after delivery and already serving the country!! Para SF defintly have the training and the balls to do this but I doubt the weak politicans have the will!

 

[NORTHEAST HARBINGER]

NORTHEAST HARBINGER

 

[NORTHEAST HARBINGER]

the prices of objects in the NSG poster are crap utter crap,

a few distinctions

the classic AK-47 comes with a wooden butt
the one with the adjustable butt is the AKMS
the black colored AK47 with NSG and the bodyguards are actually bulgarian AK's
romanian AK's are also used.
indian ordinance factory produces the AKM

now last i read romanian/soviet made AK's cost india 50 dollars a piece(no i didnt forget a zero)

the bulgarian ones the fully black ones cost around 6500 INR

chinese made one's which are a favourite amongst terrorists cost the same as the bulgarian one

now classic AK47,AK74,AK103 are produced by izhmash in russia and it is the sole legal producer of the AK 47(as said by them)what price they charge i have no idea.

now the AK's you hear for a lakh are possibly the black market ones distrubted to gangster types like the one sanjay dutt had obtained i have heard a few nort-easterner's boast that it is possible to get one from their states at those price's.

hence 2 lakhs for an AK is crap,moreover NSG primarily relies on the MP-5 for assault teams.

now coming to the glocks ,a glock 17 costs 30000 INR even in military sales the price is 10 times as quoted,in parts of US you get it in 25000 INR.

thermal imagers for 18 lakh ,these idiots dont even know thermals are used in sights,sniper rifle scopes ,binocs and some sort of NVG configuration by CT forces,special forces this is another highly overstated price.the multicolored MRI scan type humans you see in action movies when snipers are using their sights is the thermal imager at work.

Ya...you can get AK's under 1 lakh in Nagaland and Manipur.Its true;

Most people in Nagaland have guns in their houses.and its common sight people carrying gun in open.

Do you want one ? ha ha ha...

 

[Puneetsolomon]

That is because they are not targeted by the group they fired upon

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Garud

Lol.. cany view the first pic but the second one is an SSG operator and was uploaded by me on my tiny pic account..

 

[Abingdonboy]

Lol.. cany view the first pic but the second one is an SSG operator and was uploaded by me on my tiny pic account..

No it's actually a Turkish Maroon beret- this has been discussed to death elsewhere.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Ya...you can get AK's under 1 lakh in Nagaland and Manipur.Its true;

Most people in Nagaland have guns in their houses.and its common sight people carrying gun in open.

Do you want one ? ha ha ha...

I have seen a few North Eastern Indians pose with their M-16s in Facebook.Initially i thought they are part of ULFA or some other anti national group but i found out that they even had some friends in Arunanchal Scouts which made me feel they are common people...How do they get their hands on M-16s?

 

[Srinivas]

Special Forces in India

Historically, Indian Special Forces have been used for direct action type of roles during conventional wars. The hierarchal understanding of trans-border employment of Special Forces in India is short distanced physical or direct type of actions executed on a unit/sub-unit basis to achieve battlefield victories. There is no concept of them being used abroad other than in conventional war. While Special Forces should be central to asymmetric response including against irregular forces, asymmetric warfare does not automatically equate to a physical attack. A physical attack is only the extreme and potentially most dangerous expression of asymmetric warfare. The key lies in achieving strategic objectives through application of modest resources with the essential psychological element.

Indian history is replete with examples of special missions – from the Cholas to the Mauryas, from Shivaji to Rana Pratap and Maharaja Ranjit Singh and many others. In the aftermath of the Chinese aggression of 1962, independent India saw the advent of the Special Forces with establishment of the Special Frontier Force (SFF) amply covered in the media including during the 1971 Indo-Pak War and the conflict in Kargil in 1999 . In the Army, the initiative of raising a commando unit was taken in 1965 by Major Megh Singh with the blessings of the then Western Army Commander.
Recently, the Naresh Chandra Committee recommended the establishment of a Special Forces Command…
Over the years, a host of Special Forces have come up in India. Special Forces get mentioned periodically as part of counter-insurgency/counter-terrorist operations or events such as the United States Special Forces (USSF) raid that killed Osama-bin-Laden; but little has happened in India to optimise their potential in furtherance of national security objectives. Recently, the Naresh Chandra Committee recommended the establishment of a Special Forces Command.

Nomenclature – Special Forces
The term ‘Special Forces’ is often misunderstood. The word “Special” should be sufficient to understand that such forces are to be employed primarily for strategic tasks beyond national borders. In his book ‘The Idea of Pakistan’, Stephen P Cohen writes “The task of Special Forces is the proxy application of force at low and precisely calculated levels, the objective being to achieve some political effect, not a battlefield victory.” This fundamental concept is ignored in India perhaps because we still do not have a National Security Strategy and have not defined our National Security Objectives, leave aside a national level Concept for Employment of Special Forces.

Ignorance and inability to grasp the strategic environment, its setting and compulsion under which such forces are employed, are evident. The impact of Special Forces operations is not well understood. Either their effects are overstated or fixated on tactical aspects of their missions. Keeping the military out of strategic decision making is one major reason.

Ignorance and inability to grasp the strategic environment, its setting and compulsion under which such forces are employed, are evident. The impact of Special Forces operations is not well understood. Either their effects are overstated or fixated on tactical aspects of their missions. Keeping the military out of strategic decision making is one major reason.

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