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Korea to conduct defense drills near Dokdo

South Korea will conduct military exercises in waters near the easternmost islets of Dokdo later this month to strengthen its defense amid Japan’s renewed territorial claims, a military official said Thursday.

The biannual exercise comes at a time when diplomatic tensions between Seoul and Tokyo rose after Japan reiterated its claim to Dokdo in its latest defense white paper, which drew strong protest from Seoul.

The last drill was held in February.

Dokdo, which lies closer to South Korea in the East Sea that divides the Korean Peninsula and Japan, has long been a thorn in relations between the two countries. South Korea keeps a small police detachment on the islets, effectively controlling them.

The one-day exercise will be carried out under a scenario in which the Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard conduct a joint operation to drive out a vessel that has invaded the territorial waters near Dokdo, according to a senior official. (Yonhap News)
 
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But they hate each other as well.

No love lost.

If the US ever withdraws from Korea, it'll be more likely to ally with China against Japan. Especially once Korea is reunified.
 
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Why Japan should amend its war-renouncing Article 9 | The Japan Times Online

Japan nationalist dreams of new patriotic party | Reuters

Japan has shown its distrust of surrounding countries in the Defense White Paper, so how can it keep good relations with them?

The Defense White Paper directly linked Japan's security with the U.S.-Japan alliance, exposing Japan's thoughts that it will have nothing to fear if it can rely on the U.S.-Japan alliance and win over South Korea and Australia. Although Japan has been maintaining a consistent strategy with the United States, it is impossible that the United States will stand by Japan and become the enemy of the East Asian countries. Some U.S. analysts said that through stressing the U.S.-Japan alliance, Japan tries to use the United States' return to Asia-Pacific region to realize the goal of an independent military. In this regard, the United States should make early prevention.

At present, Japan has a gloomy economic and financial situation and so rendering the surrounding threats can provide reasons for increase in defense expenditures. The tough talks of the neighbors are more likely to become an excuse for Japan to promote revising the pacifist constitution and achieve a breakthrough in dispatching self-defense forces. Regarding Japan's Defense White Paper, South Korean media outlets said that the Japanese militarism eradicated after the World War II seems to be resurrected, and France and European media commented that the international community needs to prepare for Japan's use of force for defense.
What hide behind Japan's defense white paper?

Japan is shaking off its chains and looking to rebuild its empire again :)

The South Koreans are always the first to be crushed whenever Japan rises :lol:

Let Japan weaken itself against South Korea first (without Chinese intervention) then China can deal with Japan directly later.
 
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Why Japan should amend its war-renouncing Article 9 | The Japan Times Online

Japan nationalist dreams of new patriotic party | Reuters

What hide behind Japan's defense white paper?

Japan is shaking off its chains and looking to rebuild its empire again :)

The South Koreans are always the first to be crushed whenever Japan rises :lol:

Let Japan weaken itself against South Korea first (without Chinese intervention) then China can deal with Japan directly later.


Hahaha Mr Chinaman , Japan can handle PRC directly if its get more military freedom. Be happy Nippon has restrictions on her.. For she might leash her Mechas and Naval might XD
 
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Japan refocuses its attack on relatively weak South Korea as it faces nuclear weapon superpowers Russia to the North and China to the Southwest

DPJ plan for diplomatic emphasis on East Asia in tatters - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

When the Democratic Party of Japan swept to power in the August 2009 Lower House election, it brought with it plans for a new foreign policy, one based on building strong relationships with Japan's East Asian neighbors.

Those plans are all but a memory now as diplomatic tensions with the two major players in the region appear to be spiraling out of control, due in part to the DPJ's own history of wavering policies.

Relations with South Korea have been hurtling toward a new low since President Lee Myung-bak's Aug. 10 visit to the disputed Takeshima islets. At the same time, efforts by the administration of Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda to avoid a diplomatic row with China over the landing of five Hong Kong activists on the Senkaku Islands could fail to prevent future incidents.

For the moment, the Noda administration is taking a much stronger stand against Seoul.

On Aug. 17, the government decided to propose to South Korea jointly submitting a case to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) over the territorial dispute related to the Takeshima islands. That day, Noda told reporters, "I hope South Korea will appear before the court." He later criticized Lee's remarks and actions over the past days as regrettable and also sent a letter to Lee informing him of Japan's ICJ proposal.

However, South Korea's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade issued a statement that said the proposal was "not worthy of any consideration."

While both Japan and South Korea had sought to construct a future-oriented relationship, it will not be easy to repair the damage done over the past week.

Akihisa Nagashima, a special adviser to Noda on diplomacy, said, "While the DPJ government has racked up various achievements, I cannot believe that the bilateral relationship will continue as in the past in light of recent actions (by the South Korean president)."

The prime minister is also taking a harder stance on the Senkaku Islands. The Noda Cabinet held its first meeting of relevant ministers to address the issue on Aug. 17, the same day a group of Hong Kong activists who had landed on the islands were eventually deported.

At the meeting, Noda said, "It is very regrettable that they encroached on Japanese territorial waters and landed on Uotsurishima island."

In a meeting with lawmakers at the Prime Minister's office, Noda said, "I want to handle issues related to national sovereignty with unwavering resolve, even at the risk of my political future."

While the quick deportation was meant to defuse a potentially explosive diplomatic issue, Noda has also not backed down from his decision to have the central government assume ownership of the islands.

A high-ranking official in the department of the Chinese Communist Party that handles Japanese affairs said, "With Noda's concerns over the domestic political situation, we do not see any desire on his part to look at the overall picture of the Sino-Japanese relationship."

In a sense, the latest diplomatic problems are only the most recent manifestation of the wavering course the DPJ has followed ever since it came to power.

When Junichiro Koizumi was prime minister of a Liberal Democratic Party government, he once said, "If Japan's relationship with the United States alone is on a good course, ties with other nations will also work out."

During his time as prime minister, Koizumi continued to visit Yasukuni Shrine on an annual basis despite strong criticism from neighboring countries. The shrine is controversial because it honors 14 Class-A war criminals along with Japan's war dead.

In sharp contrast, when Yukio Hatoyama became the first DPJ prime minister, he set out a proposal for building an East Asian community on the basis that anything was possible as long as Japan cooperated with its Asian neighbors.

And while there were some early expectations from China and South Korea for a possible change in course, Hatoyama was eventually forced out of office after provoking U.S. criticism over his proposal to relocate Marine Corps Air Station Futenma outside of Okinawa Prefecture.

His successors had their hands full trying to repair the damage to the relationship with the United States that Hatoyama's wavering stance on Futenma had done.

Hatoyama's immediate successor, Naoto Kan, had to deal with the collision of a Chinese trawler with two Japan Coast Guard ships in waters near the Senkaku Islands. In addition, Dmitry Medvedev visited Kunashiri island, part of the disputed Northern Territories, twice as both Russian president and prime minister.

A high-ranking Foreign Ministry official said, "While we were concentrating on the Senkaku Islands issue, we were dealt a blow on the Northern Territories and also caught by surprise with Takeshima. It is nothing less than a three-front strategy. With the continuation of unstable administrations, neighboring nations could easily notice Japan's weak points."

A major reason South Korea has taken such a hardline stance against Japan is Tokyo's muted response to repeated requests for action on the issue of "comfort women" who were forced to provide sex for Japanese soldiers before and during World War II.

Another factor behind South Korea's recent assertiveness is its growing confidence on the international stage. U.S. President Barack Obama in a meeting with Lee last October called South Korea a "global partner" of the United States, leading to the feeling in South Korea that it had reached the same level as Japan as a major power in Asia.

The Japan-China relationship has also been shaken by drastic changes in the international arena. While Japan was seen as the locomotive for the Asian economy after World War II, its overall clout has been in steady decline. At the same time, China has emerged rapidly in the economic and global arenas.


While Japanese government sources said China would not stop using its newfound influence to have its way, the Noda administration does not appear ready to back down either.

Noda gave tacit approval for Cabinet ministers to visit Yasukuni Shrine on Aug. 15, the anniversary of the end of World War II in Japan. It was the first time DPJ ministers have visited the shrine.

One who made the visit said, "Noda has always had the feeling that Japan should engage in Asian diplomacy from a strong position."

The negative spiral of diplomatic tension will only continue if governments of the three nations cannot back down because of domestic public opinion.

A high-ranking Foreign Ministry official said, "We will have to draw the line somewhere so that the two sides do not further escalate the situation. However, once a relationship is damaged, it is not easy to restore to its former state."



Japan threatens to force S. Korea won down in islands dispute - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

Japan is striking back in a territorial dispute with South Korea by threatening to reduce a financial supply line to its neighbor.

It is also preparing to ask the International Court of Justice to rule on sovereignty of the Takeshima islets, which are called Dokdo by South Korea, and are administered by Seoul.

President Lee Myung-bak visited the islets on Aug. 10, a move which Japan saw as an untimely snub.

Some financial cooperation "could be put back to the drawing board," Japanese Finance Minister Jun Azumi said on Aug. 17.

At stake is an enlarged foreign-exchange swap agreement, which the two countries expanded from $13 billion to $70 billion (1.03 trillion yen to 5.56 trillion yen) in October 2011.

The swap aims to provide liquidity if either nation faces a shortage of funds. It was agreed at a time when the South Korean won was suffering turmoil from the euro zone debt crisis.

Seoul welcomed the swap expansion, and it helped to stem the won's fall.

But the enlarged swap expires in October this year unless both sides agree to renew it.

On Aug. 10, Lee became the first-ever South Korean leader to set foot on Takeshima. The visit caused additional distress in Tokyo because it was taken to be a reversal of recent efforts to improve relations.

"It is highly regrettable," Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda said at a news conference after Lee's visit. "Japan and South Korea have endeavored to build future-oriented relations."

Aides said the prime minister felt betrayed by the act, and on Aug. 14 Lee caused further distress when he demanded an apology from Emperor Akihito for those killed during Japan's colonization of the Korean peninsula from 1910-1945. Akihito acceded the throne in 1989.

On Aug. 15, Japan's finance minister discussed responses with the foreign minister, Koichiro Genba. Among the cards that could be played, the swap deal seemed a strong one. And Azumi obtained approval from Noda later to cancel a scheduled trip to Seoul for finance talks.

"(South Korean President Lee Myung-bak's) remarks and actions deviate from diplomatic courtesy and cannot be dismissed. The expansion of the swap could be put back to the drawing board," Azumi said on Aug. 17.

But officials at the Finance Ministry's international affairs section expressed concern that rising tensions could have an unwanted impact in the wider region.

The currency swap was inaugurated in 2001 as part of a pool of foreign-currency reserves known as the Chiang Mai Initiative Multilateralization agreement. That scheme was intended to help financially troubled East and Southeast Asian nations.

Through it, the officials say, restricted cooperation between Japan and South Korea could affect other countries too.

As for South Korea, a shrunken foreign-currency reserve pool could make the won more susceptible to turmoil from Europe. In such a climate, investors tend to dump the currencies of smaller economies.

South Korea is shrugging off the threat. A senior official in the office of the South Korean president presented an upbeat assessment of the nation's economy to reporters on Aug. 16, citing sufficient foreign-currency reserves.

But a day later the won fell against the yen on the Tokyo foreign-exchange market.

Officials in Seoul are questioning Tokyo's judgment. Japan itself benefits from a stable won, and Tokyo could be accused of destabilizing the economic environment for third-party nations.

"We won't prejudge developments," said a spokesman with South Korea's Ministry of Strategy and Finance. "We'll wait and see."

Meanwhile, Japan's foreign ministry too is ratcheting up the pressure on Seoul. On Aug. 17, Genba summoned Shin Kak-soo, South Korea's ambassador to Japan, and delivered a strongly worded protest.

Foreign ministry officials say they will pull no punches in responding. Already they have taken one major step.

On the day following Lee's visit, Genba said Japan might refer Takeshima sovereignty to the International Court of Justice in The Hague; on Aug. 17, a decision to do so was announced by Osamu Fujimura, chief Cabinet secretary.

The court will convene a tribunal only if both complainants agree. So Japan's foreign ministry is currently drafting a request, to be delivered to the South Koreans next week. The foreign ministry does not plan to reveal the full text of that letter.

Ministry officials are confident that the tribunal would underscore Japan's core territorial claims in the eyes of the international community.

If Seoul refuses, Japan could refer the Takeshima dispute to the ICJ unilaterally. In that case, a senior ministry official said, South Korea would face questions from other nations over its refusal.

Furthermore, Japan could cite a 1965 relations-normalization agreement with South Korea. That document says if disputes cannot be solved through diplomacy, they should be referred to arbitration.

Fujimura said the agreement entitles Japan to seek arbitration. "Both sides are aware that Takeshima is in dispute," he said.

Genba said ultimately it is in South Korea's own interests to have a court adjudicate.

"If South Korea argues its sovereignty claim over the islets is legitimate, it should comply with Japan's proposal to settle the case at the ICJ," he said.

The government will convene a ministerial meeting on Aug. 21 to examine options.


Good to see Japan realize it has no claim to Diaoyu Islands belonging to China nor the Southern Kurils belonging to Russia but the Liancourt Rocks do belong to Japan not South Korea so Japan is welcome to teach South Korea a lesson.
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I've always wanted to know whether the Korean Sejong the Great class destroyer is better than the Japanese Kongo class destroyer or not.

I hope we get to find out.
 
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I've always wanted to know whether the Korean Sejong the Great class destroyer is better than the Japanese Kongo class destroyer or not.

I hope we get to find out.

Sejong the Great's technology belongs to America and it is being assembled in South Korea.
 
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Japan will re-arm itself no doubt. But it will do so for its own selfdefence against a super power china as coward Yankis will be nowhere to be seen if a situation arises. But a rising Japan won't be threat to China's dominance in Asia rather it may help ease the nerves of the koreans and viets to some extent and can be a mutual partner of China. China has nothing to worry from japan.China should rather sort out the S.china sea dispute quickly and gain allies even korea as an ally if possible and turn its eyes to IOR , ME and the Yankis which is vital for regional and global stability. :)
 
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Japan will re-arm itself no doubt. But it will do so for its own selfdefence against a super power china as coward Yankis will be nowhere to be seen if a situation arises. But a rising Japan won't be threat to China's dominance in Asia rather it may help ease the nerves of the koreans and viets to some extent and can be a mutual partner of China. China has nothing to worry from japan.:)

I agree China has nothing to worry about from Japan. Want to see my post on a single Chinese H-6K bomber destroying 1/3 of the Japanese population in a single strike?

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A single Chinese H-6K can bring Japan to its knees

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A Chinese H-6K can carry three cruise missiles under one wing.

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Another look at the H-6K pylons, each likely capable of carrying a CJ-10K air-launched cruise missile.

The H-6 bomber fulfills the same role as the American B-52 bomber. Enemy air defenses and fighters have to be destroyed before sending a H-6 bomber over enemy territory.

However, the picture of the H-6 bomber carrying cruise missiles is significant. Due to the high altitude during launch, the cruise missile has extensive range; compared to a ground-launched cruise missile. For example, the H-6 can launch a withering cruise missile assault on Japan from hundreds of miles away.

The H-6 is being modified to carry the nuclear-capable DH-10 cruise missile. A single H-6 carrying six DH-10 nuclear-armed cruise missiles with 90 kilotons each (which is four times more powerful than Hiroshima's 20 kiloton bomb) can seriously damage six major Japanese cities.

Alternatively, all six DH-10 nuclear-armed cruise missiles can be fired at the Tokyo Greater Metropolitan Area for 40 million dead. With one H-6K strike, Japan has lost 1/3 of its population. The downside is that China just lost a lot of customers.
 
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I know both Japan and Korea are using American AEGIS technology. I'm just curious as to which destroyer is a better implementation.

Sejong the Great's 128 units VLS is unpractical, their watered-down version of Aegis is so clumsy which can't even capture so many flying targets simultaneously.

And Japan's Kongo/Atago are not much better either, since you all depend on US with the ship propulsion/radar/launching systems.

But Japan has a more robust economy and industry than South Korea, so they can afford to have more of those toys, while those South Koreans are just a group of pitiful people who need something big on the paper in order to boast their inferiority complex.
 
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I agree China has nothing to worry about from Japan. Want to see my post on a single Chinese H-6K bomber destroying 1/4 of the Japanese population in a single strike?

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A single Chinese H-6K can bring Japan to its knees

SJUSt.jpg

A Chinese H-6K can carry three cruise missiles under one wing.

bhbtM.jpg

Another look at the H-6K pylons, each likely capable of carrying a CJ-10K air-launched cruise missile.

The H-6 bomber fulfills the same role as the American B-52 bomber. Enemy air defenses and fighters have to be destroyed before sending a H-6 bomber over enemy territory.

However, the picture of the H-6 bomber carrying cruise missiles is significant. Due to the high altitude during launch, the cruise missile has extensive range; compared to a ground-launched cruise missile. For example, the H-6 can launch a withering cruise missile assault on Japan from hundreds of miles away.

The H-6 is being modified to carry the nuclear-capable DH-10 cruise missile. A single H-6 carrying six DH-10 nuclear-armed cruise missiles with 90 kilotons each (which is four times more powerful than Hiroshima's 20 kiloton bomb) can seriously damage six major Japanese cities.

Alternatively, all six DH-10 nuclear-armed cruise missiles can be fired at the Tokyo Greater Metropolitan Area for 40 million dead. With one H-6K strike, Japan has lost 1/3 of its population. The downside is that China just lost a lot of customers.

I am not denying chinese firepower which will be only second (if not already) to the US in a few years. China should gain allies in SCS and quickly turn its attention to what the yankis are scheming in the IOR to surround china. China needs to free itself from SCS dispute quickly and gain powerful allies to counter the yankis. China should also strengthen the hands of PAK (specially) and also BD and SL. To be a superpower you will need strong competent allies.

And besides bombers will become obselute in future warfare for Nuclear strike given the advancement of Air defence systems. Ballistic missiles are the way to go specially hypersonic missiles
for weapons delivery. The yankis are already working on that and I am sure china is too.:)
 
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I know both Japan and Korea are using American AEGIS technology. I'm just curious as to which destroyer is a better implementation.

American or not, they still bear a lot more firepower and tonnage than the PLAN 052C's. Not sure about the PLAN future 052D's and 058s, though.
 
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