South Korea May Win Indonesian Submarines

[monitor]

South Korea May Win Indonesian Contract For Thee Submarines

South Korea’s Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. Ltd (DSME) has confirmed that Indonesian Ministry of Defence would sign a agreement worth $1.1 billion for the construction and delivery of three 1,400-ton Chang Bogo class Type 209 diesel-electric attack submarines.

DSME’s Communication Director Jeong Seong-dae said has said, “We have launched talks to sign a submarine contract with Indonesia’s defence ministry and [Navy]” and “Both sides have long-discussed the sale of Korean-built submarines, and now we are in the final stage of fine-tuning detailed requirements and contract terms.”

South Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) has already sold 16 T-50 Golden Eagle fighter jet trainers at cost of $400 million to the Indonesian Air Force.

Chang Bogo class Type 209 will be produced by the Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering with help from the German Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW).

Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering has already refurbished Indonesian Type 209/1300 KRI Cakra submarine in 2004-05 and refurbishing of the KRI Nanggala submarine will be completed by July 2011.



Specifications

Displacement:
1,180 t surfaced
1,285 t submerged

Depth: 250m

Length: 55.9 m

Beam: 6.4 m

Draft: 5.9 m

Propulsion: 4 MTU Type 12V493 diesel engines with single Siemens electric motor

Speed: 11 knots surfaced and 21 knots when submerged

Range: 11,300 NM surfaced at 4 knots

Endurance: 50 days, Can Remain submerged for about two weeks

Crew: 33

Armament: 8 × 533 mm torpedo tubes

 

[NiceGuy]

Good good ,.....but maybe not good for Malaysia and Singapore

 

[bubble123]

type 209 ????? isn't it very old.

 

[kobiraaz]

Korea?? Why not Turkey??

 

[NiceGuy]

Korea?? Why not Turkey??

Maybe Korea has better weapon marketing strategy

 

[Anonymous user]

Good good ,.....but maybe not good for Malaysia and Singapore

What do you know about Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia relationships?? Besides even if Indonesia wanted to buy Subs it's good for them not a huge concern.

 

[NiceGuy]

What do you know about Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia relationships?? Besides even if Indonesia wanted to buy Subs it's good for them not a huge concern.

Three of you don't have any serious conflict , Maylaysian have same language with Indonesian , but who knows what happend when US withdrawn from ASEAN due to VN's pressure and his economy problem too

 

[Anonymous user]

Three of you don't have any serious conflict , Maylaysian have same language with Indonesian , but who knows what happend when US withdrawn from ASEAN due to VN's pressure and his economy problem too

Truth be told no one in this region gives a sh.t about vietnam. It's the sad truth but it is. In fact everyone here would be more suspicious of Vietnam intention then each other having worked together for so long and being all democracies least we all have mutual respect for each other.

Currently from our views you are being played by both USA and Russia, Russia selling you weapons on credit already makes you their puppet.

 

[NiceGuy]

Truth be told no one in this region gives a sh.t about vietnam. It's the sad truth but it is. In fact everyone here would be more suspicious of Vietnam intention then each other having worked together for so long and being all democracies least we all have mutual respect for each other.

Currently from our views you are being played by both USA and Russia, Russia selling you weapons on credit already makes you their puppet.

Hehe, sorry , Indonesia is our good friend now ^^

Last October, Indonesia and Vietnam Defence Ministries signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on bilateral defence cooperation, laying the legal foundations for the enhancement of the two countries’ defence relationship.

During the talk, the two Ministers agreed to push forward the implementation of this MoU. Accordingly, General Thanh suggested the establishment of a working group. “Vietnam wishes the naval field to be a pioneer in the bilateral defence cooperation. We would like to invite a group of Indonesian naval experts to have a working visit to Vietnam to discuss the joint patrol and communication establishment between the two navies. We hope a deal will be signed this year between the two Naval Commanders”, General Thanh stressed.

Indonesian and Vietnamese Defence Ministers hold talks - Welcome to EnglishEdition - Vietnam People

ASEAN belong to ASEAN people, don't try to dominate ASEAN's economy, Chinese-Singaporian brother

Our intention is clear: Unify ASEAN , build up a strong association like NATO to counter China

btw: we always love to be Russia's pupet

 

[Anonymous user]

Hehe, sorry , Indonesia is our good friend now ^^

Indonesian and Vietnamese Defence Ministers hold talks - Welcome to EnglishEdition - Vietnam People

Big Deal bilateral talks take place everyday, doesn't mean things will stand if there is a power shift in the region, its called politics

ASEAN belong to ASEAN people, don't try to dominate ASEAN's economy, Chinese-Singaporian brother

Who is dominating the ASEAN economy? its not our fault you're rubbish at handling your economy. Don't blame us for your sorry state of affairs.

Our intention is clear: Unify ASEAN , build up a strong association like NATO to counter China

So who's the Unifier? Lemme guess you guys once the US hands the power to you?

btw: we always love to be Russia's pupet

Not surprising, its no wonder one can buy Vietnamese brides for 10 grand a pop in Singapore.

 

[Donatello]

Too smal? Isn't it?

 

[NiceGuy]

Big Deal bilateral talks take place everyday, doesn't mean things will stand if there is a power shift in the region, its called politics

DO I need to remind you that: Indonesia did Nothing against VN during VN-Thai conflict ??

Who is dominating the ASEAN economy? its not our fault you're rubbish at handling your economy. Don't blame us for your sorry state of affairs.

It's your fault, do CHina share border with Singapore ?why 90% is Chinese in your coutry ??it means CHinese Rob ASEAN land , maybe one day ASEAN people have to Take Back the lost land .

So who's the Unifier? Lemme guess you guys once the US hands the power to you?

Who have More weapon of mass destruction will

Not surprising, its no wonder one can buy Vietnamese brides for 10 grand a pop in Singapore.

That why, we don't like you , we want to destroy you, maybe after US withdrawal will be perfect time for us

 

[NiceGuy]

@ Anonymous user: I use Google translate to read China's analyst about war against ASEAN , what do you think about this quote ?

In other words, the Chinese military scored the Philippines within three hours, 24 hours, then never again occupied the full implementation of the next! Some people may ask: If Malaysia and Indonesia do not agree to provide military bases? But it does not matter, but Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, the problem usually is not completely turned to the United States, but if war happen, they still support the United States, that would mean to the Chinese declaration of war! China will have the right to attack these countries can also become a military base..

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[SpiritHS]

Panetta talks tough about China, North Korea - CNN
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In an op-ed published in Japan's largest daily newspaper, Panetta wrote, "China is rapidly modernizing its military, but with a troubling lack of transparency."

He went on to criticize China's dealings with some of its neighbors, focusing on China's "increasingly assertive activity in the East and South China Seas.
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opposed China’s aggressive actions in the East and south china seas recently, So one step short of openly admitting to a policy of containment.

 

[NiceGuy]

opposed China’s aggressive actions in the East and south china seas recently, So one step short of openly admitting to a policy of containment.

this thread is about the purpose of Indonesian Submarines, bro. and I think they will use those subs to counter Malaysia and Singapore.