South China Sea Forum

[Globenim]

Firing a missle into a sea because it won't hit any valuable targets isn't exactly the same as deploying it for a war in that sea.

 

[rott]

Not a Reliable source. I would take this with a pinch of salt.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

from a cheer leading country's website. are there any similar reports from any neutral countries?

Australia is not neutral countries?
Maybe you should see "HendersonBrooksreport"

List as many countries as you can，if it can make you feel better。
I suggest you copy country names from here

Such as......... Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, myanmar. Or Sikkim?

 

[SBUS-CXK]

It's also a victory for the friends of China. I've always said that the US never had the guts to face a powerful adversary, it chooses weak nations to intimidate. There's a lesson in it for Hu Jin Tao and Wen too. My congratulations to Xi Jinping!

Hu jintao era (2003-2013). China never against the United States. Also does not have too much of the south China sea dispute. While Vietnam and the Philippines to speed up the construction of the military deployment of the south China sea islands also. We almost have no dignity... Xi jinping, after taking office, will be the end of the tolerance policy implemented by the since 1978. To abandon the "hide our capabilities and bide our time "strategy. Beginning to use strength to speak.

While the USA to China's critics is unfair. In the confrontation between China and the Philippines, China sent a coast guard vessel, and the Philippines sent two frigates! From beginning to end, the Chinese are restrained. In May 2013, the Philippine armed ships fired at the Taiwan fishing boat without any warning And continuous pursuit of Taiwan fishing vessel for an hour. Until Taiwanese territorial waters! Killing a Taiwanese fishermen. Sparked anger in Taiwan. And the USA said not familiar with the occurrence of the incident. USA intentionally cover for the Philippines

We don't have any invasion of any country. No threat annexation of Nepal, No annexation of Sri Lanka, there is no threat annexation of Bangladesh, no threat to dismember baluchistan province. There is no invasion of Burma, annexation of Sikkim...... We just fight back.

 

[Speeder 2]

There is no real South China Sea issue at all.

So-called "South China Sea issue" is in essence China-US regional leadership issue.

5-10 years later if we look back, you people will understand that China will prevail in SCS if all sides are rational players as they are, because China's economic weight is , and will keep becoming, too big for the US to compete the leadership role in the region. All military powers, the US military power included, are after all based on economic power in the core.

China and the US will almost never fight eye-to-eye directly. All you seenow are postures and smoke screens.

There will be, however, 2 small senarios where China must and will fight:

1. against the small cannon fodders of the US in the region, when they are low IQ enough to take on China directly dreaming that the US is right behind them backing them up. They will be ruthlessly awakened by a big surprise! As I said, the US won't fight China, and vice-versus.

2. against Japan - most of the mainstream Chinese strategists are just too kind, or too information-wise stupid, to even realise that Japan is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT hand behind South China Sea issue, not the US!!! Let me explain why:
the ultimate strategic goal of Japan is to drag the US into a war with China in the region. Fortunately both China and the US are extremely careful and both realise that it's almost impossile. Both China and the US have been constanly barking loudly at each other. But we all know that barking dogs won't bite. However, Japan can make it happn, as Japan will take all opportunities keeping pushing it because in case of the war between the 2 superpowers, winner would be Japan, alone! So Japan is betting heavily that China would be too kind to do anything to Japan proper should China be dragged into a war with the US. Up till now, Japan is suceeding... China's top strategists must make Japan know directly and explicitly that in case any hot conflcit occurs between CHina and the US in SCS in the future, China will firstly bomb Japan into the stone age at the very start of the conflict simplely because Japan will be the underying leading cause. Only Japan clearly realises that China will be determined to do so, will it refrain from keep provocating the war as it is doing now.

 

[LacViet]

What Xi Jinping would like to do, ís same what Kim Jungun did. Both is princeling.

 

[BoQ77]

Does peaceful rise means China cannot self defense?

You called nuclear weapon for SCS war as self defend?

How about North KoreA, Japan nuke program?

And maybe Vietnam, South Korea nuke program.

nuke against nuke

 

[xunzi]

You called nuclear weapon for SCS war as self defend?

How about North KoreA, Japan nuke program?

And maybe Vietnam, South Korea nuke program.

nuke against nuke

Let us remind you that we have a No 1st Use Nuclear policy.

 

[dy1022]

You called nuclear weapon for SCS war as self defend?

How about North KoreA, Japan nuke program?

And maybe Vietnam, South Korea nuke program.

nuke against nuke

China can do it!


you can't!


this is the biggest international law on earth!

better get used to it or cry me a river!

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

WASHINGTON: The US military conducted "freedom of navigation" operations against 13 countries last year, including several to challenge China's claims in the South and East China seas, according to an annual Pentagon report released on Monday.

The operations were against China, India, Indonesia, Iran, Libya, Malaysia, the Maldives, Oman, the Philippines and Vietnam, the report said.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...on-rights-last-year/articleshow/51988898.cms?

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US challenge India too? unless India also claim Indian Ocean is India's ocean..., how about all these countries unite and set sail to US pacific coast to exercise and demonstrate the freedom of navigation

 

[Nilgiri]

Its common since India's EEZ is quite huge and the Andaman and Nicobar + Laskhadweep ones are strategically quite significant (for Malacca entrance + routes to Diego Garcia respectively) to the USN.

The US position is that EEZ does not equal territorial waters (which is fair enough) and does not need to inform India of transit (which is the stated Indian policy for its EEZ)....and holds up that is has no such requirements for its own EEZ.

We see no serious diplomatic issue with this unlike the Chinese SCS drama where parts of the spratly's have claimed territorial water components that the US is freely violating to stick it to China like so:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/31/us-w...d-in-south-china-sea-infuriating-beijing.html

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Its common since India's EEZ is quite huge and the Andaman and Nicobar + Laskhadweep ones are strategically quite significant (for Malacca entrance + routes to Diego Garcia respectively) to the USN.

The US position is that EEZ does not equal territorial waters (which is fair enough) and does not need to inform India of transit (which is the stated Indian policy for its EEZ)....and holds up that is has no such requirements for its own EEZ.

We see no serious diplomatic issue with this unlike the Chinese SCS drama where parts of the spratly's have claimed territorial water components that the US is freely violating to stick it to China like so:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/31/us-w...d-in-south-china-sea-infuriating-beijing.html

I'm please to hear that India is so easy...oh well that's India's choice but as China we gonna have some fun with US.

 

[Nilgiri]

I'm please to hear that India is so easy...oh well that's India's choice but as China we gonna have some fun with US.

That is your choice of course . They are not crossing any of our territorial waters (12 nmi), the issue pertains only to EEZ (200 nmi).

BTW, does china have a similar policy for its EEZ transit, or it only applies to territorial waters (for warships)?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

That is your choice of course . They are not crossing any of our territorial waters (12 nmi), the issue pertains only to EEZ (200 nmi).

BTW, does china have a similar policy for its EEZ transit, or it only applies to territorial waters (for warships)?

We will settle with US over this 12 nmi issue, it's just a matter of time but every nation can transit EEZ of other countries

 

[Echo_419]

WASHINGTON: The US military conducted "freedom of navigation" operations against 13 countries last year, including several to challenge China's claims in the South and East China seas, according to an annual Pentagon report released on Monday.

The operations were against China, India, Indonesia, Iran, Libya, Malaysia, the Maldives, Oman, the Philippines and Vietnam, the report said.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...on-rights-last-year/articleshow/51988898.cms?

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US challenge India too? unless India also claim Indian Ocean is India's ocean..., how about all these countries unite and set sail to US pacific coast to exercise and demonstrate the freedom of navigation

Lol, and these guys were saying we should further increase cooperation with them

We will settle with US over this 12 nmi issue, it's just a matter of time but every nation can transit EEZ of other countries

Good luck with that