South China Sea Forum

[911]

China thinks it can bully neighbouring nations in front of real superpowers ,soon they will regret it when their economy crashes .most countries are against China's outrageous claims .

Not our fight.

 

[Zero_wing]

For those in the anti-China brigade who think the whole World is against China, think again.

Countries only care about national interests, namely economics, and China is overwhelmingly the largest manufacturing and export nation in the World. Most countries love trading with China because they deliver on time, provide funding for infrastructure projects in developing countries, without any political interference or strings attached and is becoming the biggest market for countries to export goods to.

China is like the antithesis of USA and most countries appreciate that. They won't overtly show their support to China because they know the current World hegemon is the jealous type that may lash out. China don't need the nice words of support from other nations, they just need their business.

Most countries in the World don't care that Vietnam and Philippines are a little sour because China are building up in SCS. They won't stop trading with China because of this. China is important to most countries for business. Vietnam and Philippines is way down the importance list for most countries. Pinoys can pin their hopes on a favourable ruling but don't expect it to mean anything to anybody else. It was always a losing battle, even if the ruling went their way.

Funny that's what the American said about Vietnam in the Vietnam War and your people said when we said your Divisions packing the Korean War etc

Let the chinese say, do whatever they want they making enemies everywhere with their arrogance and idiotic notions of entitlements they will get whats coming to them plus the way chinese economy and environment is going its just a matter of time

 

[Jlaw]

I stopped reading after this, lol

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The Hague tribunal has no powers of enforcement and its rulings have been ignored before. Manila has said the court may hand down a ruling before May. "

 

[54ptu]

China already gave the finger to Hague by NOT participating in the tribunal，isnt this already a good sign that the ruling will not be respected？

Keep yelling the same old stuff to someone who is the least interested to listen， like this article，only shows what a weak position the PH is acting from，and it really starts to look like an harassment！

 

[true]

Not our fight.

it is , China's ridiculous claim actually intersects our trade routs to Japan ,s.Korea ,Vietnam etc . International waters is not China's personal picnic spot .

It is as much of our fight as USA's fight .

 

[Kwame Brown]

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

[911]

it is , China's ridiculous claim actually intersects our trade routs to Japan ,s.Korea ,Vietnam etc . International waters is not China's personal picnic spot .

It is as much of our fight as USA's fight .

South China Sea dispute can help India in many ways. Only if India don't take any extreme sides.

 

[Genesis]

Well it's the International law that the World adhere and respect that will brand your 9 dash lies ILLEGAL and just pure nonsense.

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You should thank us for bringing the issue to the Permanent Court of Arbitration. The issue will now be settled once and for all.

lol, they have no power to dictate sovereignty. That isn't even what the Philippines is suing for anyways. What's on the table is what is and isn't an island. The Philippines also don't want anyone telling them what's theirs and what isn't apparently.

Worse case scenario, we'll lose island status for some of the rocks, and Philippines itself will have to redraw the maps as it's claims to large areas are also based on those same islands.

In the worst case scenario for China. Philippines gets a smaller EEZ, but including the rocks, and we'll have bases inside your EEZ. There isn't any international protocol for handing over bases, and certainly no one strong enough to force us.

Even more, even if we do get forced into handing over the islands, it's very simple to delay proceedings. A few hurdles there, a few dollars here, and this can get delayed into the day after hell freezes over.

Then instead of our 9 dash line, we get a huge international water, that belongs to no one, but we will have defacto control, as our navy continue to expand.

So in essence, even if we do follow the decision and you win, in everything but name, nothing will change.

it is , China's ridiculous claim actually intersects our trade routs to Japan ,s.Korea ,Vietnam etc . International waters is not China's personal picnic spot .

It is as much of our fight as USA's fight .

Funny enough that people always forget China is actually there in the area. Your biggest trade partner, China transport three times more goods to you than the countries you listed. Unless we want to sink our own ships, you'll be fine.

If you want to challenge China because you think you are a global power, well, build a navy that's bigger than our South China Sea Fleet and we'll talk. (P.S. I checked, right before this post, you can too if you like)

 

[dichoi]

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South China Sea dispute: Anti-Beijing protesters in Vietnam mark Battle of the Paracel Islands anniversary

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  By James LillywhiteJanuary 19, 2016 11:36 GMT

Dozens of anti-China protesters in Vietnam have marked the anniversary of the Battle of the Paracel Islands amid growing tension between the countries.

The demonstration on 19 January in Hanoi was to mark the 42nd anniversary of the conflict in which China took control of a cluster of around 40 islets, outcrops and reefs in the South China Sea. 74 South Vietnamese soldiers died in the conflict in 1974, and incidents have reoccurred in the area since then.

Protester Nguyen Van Phuong said, "We ought to (keep having) this ceremony to pay tribute to the sons who fell for our motherland, that is something we have to do. Secondly, this serves as a wake up call to society because this event has only been happening for the past few years. Before this, the ruling government did not give out information so not many people knew about the Paracel war and the 74 soldiers killed during that war".

On 3 January, Vietnam accused China of violating a recent pact by landing planes on an airstrip built in a contested part of the South China Sea. Beijing has also been accused of opening fire on fishing boats in that part of the ocean, but have defended their actions as a legitimate means of protecting sovereignty.

Well known propaganda movie actress Nguyen Thi Kim Chi was at the demonstration.Reuters/ Kham

The protesters in Hanoi held signs and posters reading "the people will never forget" and chanted "down with invasive China" and "Spratly and Paracels belong to Vietnam". Well known propaganda movie actress Nguyen Thi Kim Chi was one of the protesters involved in the rally.

She said: "We are doing this to remind people to always remember to protect our ocean, our islands and our motherland because we have this so-called 'friend' that has savage aggression plans to invade us and rob us of seas, our skies and our motherland".

China claims almost all the South China Sea, which is believed to have huge deposits of oil and gas, and through which about $5tn in ship-borne trade passes every year.

South China Sea dispute: Anti-Beijing protesters in Vietnam mark Battle of the Paracel Islands anniversary

 

[beijingwalker]

China thinks it can bully neighbouring nations in front of real superpowers ,soon they will regret it when their economy crashes .most countries are against China's outrageous claims .

Your world maybe..

 

[Zero_wing]

lol, they have no power to dictate sovereignty. That isn't even what the Philippines is suing for anyways. What's on the table is what is and isn't an island. The Philippines also don't want anyone telling them what's theirs and what isn't apparently.

Worse case scenario, we'll lose island status for some of the rocks, and Philippines itself will have to redraw the maps as it's claims to large areas are also based on those same islands.

In the worst case scenario for China. Philippines gets a smaller EEZ, but including the rocks, and we'll have bases inside your EEZ. There isn't any international protocol for handing over bases, and certainly no one strong enough to force us.

Even more, even if we do get forced into handing over the islands, it's very simple to delay proceedings. A few hurdles there, a few dollars here, and this can get delayed into the day after hell freezes over.

Then instead of our 9 dash line, we get a huge international water, that belongs to no one, but we will have defacto control, as our navy continue to expand.

So in essence, even if we do follow the decision and you win, in everything but name, nothing will change.



Funny enough that people always forget China is actually there in the area. Your biggest trade partner, China transport three times more goods to you than the countries you listed. Unless we want to sink our own ships, you'll be fine.

If you want to challenge China because you think you are a global power, well, build a navy that's bigger than our South China Sea Fleet and we'll talk. (P.S. I checked, right before this post, you can too if you like)

Man ego much well pride and falls comes to mind anyhow really then your whole argument negates the whole we owned the whole sea part this what happens if your country education system is 80% propaganda and 20% facts

 

[true]

Your world maybe..

what kind of idiotic "proof" is this? what does this list got to do with the counties in the territory dispute? seriously just look how dumb your argument is, In the list India has a majority positive view on china, so are you really that dense to think Indian citizens would support china's territory claims ,just because they have positive view on china on a random survey ?

 

[true]

Funny enough that people always forget China is actually there in the area. Your biggest trade partner, China transport three times more goods to you than the countries you listed. Unless we want to sink our own ships, you'll be fine.

If you want to challenge China because you think you are a global power, well, build a navy that's bigger than our South China Sea Fleet and we'll talk. (P.S. I checked, right before this post, you can too if you like)

geo politics, contracts all goes down the drain in a war, if personal interests favor them, Europe has proved this multiple times since the beginning of the last century.Hell china threats USA who is its largest trade partner. India and China regardless of its disputes in the the 60's are the largest economies in asia ,leaving japan, and the leading members of the BRICS , through developing closer ties in the past two decades the trade ratio was inevitable , just like Japan.

 

[ahojunk]

In addition to the ongoing expansion of its facilities at Woody Island, China has increase Duncan Island by 50 percent. There is a protected harbor and currently building a helicopter base on the island, with eight designated landing zones in place and four others likely to be completed soon.

Map of the location of Duncan Island, in relation to Woody Island, etc.

 

[Ewok6102]

are you really that dense to think Indian citizens would support china's territory claims ,just because they have positive view on china on a random survey?

Does China need Indian citizen's support regarding something they have no business with? And do you honestly think the Chinese cares about what Indians think about the South China sea? Indian citizen's opinion will most likely fall on deaf ears.