South China Sea Forum

[itaskol]

Yeah, but China backdown now, they want peace talk.

China urges talks, says no 'clash' with Vietnam| Reuters

You want a war !? Go ahead! I hope you're not end up in PRC prison

to be honest， I do want war with Vietnam.

 

[volatile]

When?

Bullying neighbours Lastupdate:- Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:30:00 GMT GreaterKashmir.com
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[Soryu]

to be honest， I do want war with Vietnam.

for what !??

 

[Globenim]

Nothing really happend. Some nationalist Vietnamese tried to make a statement about their recent claims on Chinese waters and provoke us. They where already shoed away. Drilling in our waters will continue as planed.

 

[zDragonFlyz]

Who teach China international laws? Oh no, just simply basic laws in general.

It's 80 mile inside Vietnam's EEZ. Only Vietnam has the right to exploit there, according to UNCLOS 1982/

It is totally clear that China has signed this Convention. Not just singed, actually China is one of the pioneer investors:

Come on, no one ever told china that if you don't want to do something, never sign a contract, and if you have already signed, you have to do what you have signed?

It's just what I think or china is just illiterate and even can't read a contract?

 

[zDragonFlyz]

Anyone please told China that when you have signed a contract, you have to obey it. If you don't want to obey, don't sign anything.

China signed the UNCLOS 1982. Not just signed, actually China is one of the pioneer investors.

According to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS 1982), Vietnam is the only country that has the right to exploit natural resources inside its EEZ.

And now China is trying to dig oil 80 mile inside Vietnam's EEZ

It's just what I think or china is just illiterate and even can't read a contract?

Come on. anyone please tell China that it has to do the contract it has signed, or at worst case help China to read a contract because it can't even read.

When US invades and destory countrys by lying...
its all O K.

But when China or Russia does something with no bloodshed.
Their the bully.


Freakin stupid logic people go by these days.....

At least US does things that it signed contracts to do.
And Russia does too.
China just doesn't.

 

[zDragonFlyz]

Anyone knows that China just had signed the damn UNCLOS 1982? Come on, China. Just do what you signed to do.

 

[zDragonFlyz]

What's wrong with us exploring resources in our sea? I don't see anything wrong with it.

'Your' sea? You signed the damn UNCLOS 1982! It clearly states that if something is 80 miles inside other country's EEZ, it's definitely not 'your sea', and you just can't go there and dig oil.
Just respect what you signed. Or else, just don't sign it. Understand?

 

[xunzi]

Anyone please told China that when you have signed a contract, you have to obey it. If you don't want to obey, don't sign anything.

China signed the UNCLOS 1982. Not just signed, actually China is one of the pioneer investors.

According to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS 1982), Vietnam is the only country that has the right to exploit natural resources inside its EEZ.

And now China is trying to dig oil 80 mile inside Vietnam's EEZ

It's just what I think or china is just illiterate and even can't read a contract?

Come on. anyone please tell China that it has to do the contract it has signed, or at worst case help China to read a contract because it can't even read.



At least US does things that it signed contracts to do.
And Russia does too.
China just doesn't.

We are drilling just 18 miles from our controlled island and it is 119 miles, not 80 away from your coast. Very clever Vietnamese propaganda and dirty tactic to avoid the real fact and use misleading information to gain some extra foreign sympathy. LOL W

 

[xunzi]

It's not backing down. It is us still feeling sympathy for you Vietnamese and let you have wiggle room to calm down before too late.

 

[zDragonFlyz]

We are drilling just 18 miles from our controlled island and it is 119 miles, not 80 away from your coast. Very clever Vietnamese propaganda and dirty tactic to avoid the real fact and use misleading information to gain some extra foreign sympathy. LOL W

Someone help Mr xunzi here to read please. I said 80 mile deep inside Vietnam's 200-mile EEZ, and it means 119 (approx. 120 miles) from the shore. 120+80=200. Do you understand?

What misleading information? What are you trying to say? You want to deny which one of these 3 facts:
1) You are trying to dig oil in OUR EEZ, and it is illegal according to UNCLOS 1982
2) You signed the UNCLOS 1982
3) When you sign something, you have to obey it. If you don't want to obey, just don't sign.

 

[zDragonFlyz]

Nothing really happend. Some nationalist Vietnamese tried to make a statement about their recent claims on Chinese waters and provoke us. They where already shoed away. Drilling in our waters will continue as planed.

What is your waters? From my little knowledge, if you sign something, you have to obey it. Even 5-year-old kid knows that. Am I wrong?
You signed the UNCLOS 1982, so why you just trying to drill oil inside other country's Exclusive Economic Zone, which is totally illegal according to what you have signed?

 

[zDragonFlyz]

I just wonder does any chinese man/woman have a clue about the UN Laws of Sea - what China has signed? Any knowledge about Territorial Sea and Contiguous Zone, Exclusive Economic Zone, Continental Shelf? I thought they are educated somehow. Or their authorities just brainwashed them all?

 

[xunzi]

Here's an article speculating about China's intentions:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/CHIN-02-080514.html

The author thinks China is just practising on Vietnam. But the real target is the Philippines.

Not really. If our intention is to practice on the Vietnamese, we would not give the option to calm tension down in Vietnam and urged to settle talk peacefully. Instead what we were doing is to demonstrate to the Vietnamese that now we possess the capability to drill unilaterally without anyone assistance. The oil drilling platform had been a long announcement since mid-2000 and only recently did we start to show it. In the short-term, we expect the Vietnamese to respond aggressively but we know we can always calm down teh situation when we have to. This is what we are doing right now. For the long-term, it signals to the Vietnamese to stop bickering with us and accelerate bilateral negotiation in settling joint-development in contest water. The lost player here is actually the Phillipines.

 

[xunzi]

Someone help Mr xunzi here to read please. I said 80 mile deep inside Vietnam's 200-mile EEZ, and it means 119 (approx. 120 miles) from the shore. 120+80=200. Do you understand?

What misleading information? What are you trying to say? You want to deny which one of these 3 facts:
1) You are trying to dig oil in OUR EEZ, and it is illegal according to UNCLOS 1982
2) You signed the UNCLOS 1982
3) When you sign something, you have to obey it. If you don't want to obey, just don't sign.

Very clever tactic to round up, my friend.

1. Your EEZ is overlapping with our controlled territorial water. The equidistant principle of UNCLOS applied here because of overlapping. The international law regarding overlapping water is to settle diplomatically between two parties. The trouble is you have been reluctant to do it bilaterally. We are forcing your hand, that all, my friend.
2.. It is not illegal. Go look up UNCLOS in reference to our declaration before ratifying. We never accept any country EEZ if it overlaps with our territorial base.
3. We did obey. It's true who misleading fact. Do I need to bring up our declaration before signing off on UNCLOS?