South China Sea Forum

[Economic superpower]

What's wrong with us exploring resources in our sea? I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

[Economic superpower]

Since we already sent our coast guard to this area to confront the Chinese, we might as well use this opportunity to grab a few Paracel reefs too since the location of this rig is very near the Paracel.

War with the PLA will mean disaster to the Viets. So there won't be a war.

 

[bolo]

Good news.

 

[BoQ77]

Don't drive away the topic ...

Some Chinese articles said about Vietnam Coast Guard aggression.

Let us know, What do you expect China Coast Guard do if other country bring their oil rig into China EEZ ?
Let think and you understand us ...

 

[applesauce]

The range is your enemy as you don't have the capabilities to put a sizeable jets all in once at the same time to give u the numerical superiority over our 36 Flankers.

oh its clear now you have exactly ZERO idea of what you are taking about, a flanker, such as the su-30 or su-27 or its chinese variants, j--11/B, has 3000-3500 km range, more than enough to take off from hainan and have sufficient loiter time over the scs(distance of about 1000 km). now vietnam has 34(su-30 and su-27) current with 12 more (su-30) on order, PLAAF on the other hand flys close to 300 flanker variants, and the PLAN as an additional 70ish(and increasing). China can easily put a sizable fleet in the air over the SCS, and it doesn't even have to be all of them, not even close, just 20% of the chinese flanker force is more than twice of what vietnam operates. therefore you claim is completely wrong.

When you run out of fuel or on your way home to do your refueling, even our Mig21 parked along the coast can attack you. Your frigates and destroyers will be countered by our low flying Su22 which are armed with KH-31 missiles or our Su30 which are armed with standoff range missiles like the KH-59mk.

who on earth said, they would fly close to the vietnamese coast? and the chinese navy can sink the entire vietnamese navy then have your air force for dessert. with a large number of 054A and 052C and soon 052D which far out ranges the KH-59ME(export) version which vietnam operates,(~120km range), the hhq-9 on the 052c max range is 200km in other words, those su-22s would never get close enough to launch any missiles worth worrying about. ur migs are even more laughable, mig-21/j-7 are known for their short legs, they can at best go 500km before having to turn back, if u wanna get into battle at all, the range is far shorter than 500km, which makes then good for point defence, not so good for attacking out to sea.

I'm pretty sure our military feels more than confident with our 36 Flankers and 40 Su22 to deal with China in the SCS conflict that's why we chose to spend $3 billion for the submarines instead of using that money for another 60 Flankers.

oh lol. is that what you think? the subs are 1000x more survivable in a naval war with china than any of your jets, because if those jets take off, they're not going back home. while the subs at least have a chance if they keep quiet, and china still has a weak link in the form of its asw capabilities compared with its advances in other areas.

It's interesting how you talk about parking your SAMs on your reefs while our newly acquired EXTRA rocket with low CEP can take them out with ease..not to mention we have real islands in the SCS that we can park our S-300 too. At this moment, we hold the military advantage over the conflict in the SCS, my friend.

hahah, you are getting funnier and funnier, you plan to use a land based rocket system with 150km range to strike at targets 500km+ away? just how delusional are you? the reason china can park a s-300/hq-9 system in the islands is because its safe from other forms of attack, namely attacks from naval ships, given the vast PLAN superiority over the vietnamese navy, any s-300 system you park on an island is going to be toast, not by planes but by attacks from ships, and china doesnt need to park any such system really, cause the 052c carrys the naval version of the hq-9 anyways.

so to sum it up.

vietnam has about zero advantages once we are 300km or so away from its coast
your missiles dont have the range
you navy cant protect your islands
your airforce cant achieve any kind of air supirority

ps: stop confusing what the soviet/russians operate with what they export(downgraded) to vietnam, there is a huge difference.

 

[Huan]

By now you should already get the idea that anytime China tries to assert her legitimate core national interests these days, the United States will criticize it. Washington does not really support your core interests. So don't try to please Washington too much.

 

[ViXuyen]

War with the PLA will mean disaster to the Viets. So there won't be a war.

If the American are willing to sell us the F-35 like they're willing to sell us the nuke reactor, I would say the time has come for us to retake the Paracel by force.

The garrison on the Paracel is weak, a preemptive strike can take it back pretty quick. Once we retake the Paracel, we would need to set up SAM on the island pretty quick. Keeping it is more difficult as we would have to face air attack from you. With a single F-35 can shoot down 3 J-20, the addition of the F-35 will help secure the air from any attack right away.

 

[bolo]

If the American are willing to sell us the F-35 like they're willing to sell us the nuke reactor, I would say the time has come for us to retake the Paracel by force.

The garrison on the Paracel is weak, a preemptive strike can take it back pretty quick. Once we retake the Paracel, we would need to set up SAM on the island pretty quick. Keeping it is more difficult as we would have to face air attack from you. With a single F-35 can shoot down 3 J-20, the addition of the F-35 will help secure the air from any attack right away.

Even if they are willing to sell, you folks can't afford it. 200m USD per plane. Save your money for the Asian games or feed the poor.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Vietnam attack laos? when?
i know chinaman is being lied by government but at this rate is unbelievable
and about cambodia, they firstly attacked us

Okay You do not believe me and our propaganda also
Just google "Viet attack Laos", you believe google ,right ?
And Many Viet members in PDF admit this , you guys want to unify Mekong region.

 

[cirr]

16 Vietnamese ships against 44 Chinese ships。

China expanded the restricted area in response to Vietnam‘s attempt to force its way into an earlier declared no-sail zone。

Okay You do not believe me and our propaganda also
Just google "Viet attack Laos", you believe google ,right ?
And Many Viet members in PDF admit this , you guys want to unify Mekong region.

Yeah。Very true。And these guys eaily get high on wet dreams。

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

(Reuters) - Contact has been lost with 11 fishermen in the South China Sea after they were intercepted by "armed men", China's state news agency Xinhua reported on Wednesday.

They were on board the fishing boat Qiongqionghai 09063, which was "intercepted by an unidentified armed vessel at about 10 a.m. in waters off" the Spratly Islands, Xinhua said, citing a fishing association in Qionghai on China's southern island province of Hainan.

It provided no other details.

Contact lost with fishermen in South China Sea after interception by 'armed men' - Xinhua| Reuters

 

[Kyle Sun]

16 Vietnamese ships against 44 Chinese ships。

China expanded the restricted area in response to Vietnam‘s attempt to force its way into an earlier declared no-sail zone。



Yeah。Very true。And these guys eaily get high on wet dreams。

44 ships ?

All coastguard ships ?

 

[Huan]

If the American are willing to sell us the F-35 like they're willing to sell us the nuke reactor, I would say the time has come for us to retake the Paracel by force.

The garrison on the Paracel is weak, a preemptive strike can take it back pretty quick. Once we retake the Paracel, we would need to set up SAM on the island pretty quick. Keeping it is more difficult as we would have to face air attack from you. With a single F-35 can shoot down 3 J-20, the addition of the F-35 will help secure the air from any attack right away.

Why do you keep depending on the USA to help get it back? Use your own sweat and blood to get it. Build your own jets and weapons for a change!

 

[sincity]

Don't bother alert me, I don't care when VietNam and China start a war with each other.

 

[Huan]

China, you should provide standard naval escorts to your fishing boats on a routine basis. The South China Sea is increasingly a highly contested area by your neighbors.