South China Sea Forum

[BoQ77]

rofl, why would Singapore and South Korea be in your alliance? Why would Malaysia or the Philippines, considering they have just as much of a dispute with you?

Singapore is the founder of the Alliance as it existed. Vietnam not now.
The sea area should belong to Southeast Asia nations first. then we could nego in peace.
There's no peace to nego with China ... we know ...

Korea, why Korea gives the Coast guard ships to Vietnam? not like USA and Japan, we received and three of them operated under Vietnam flag already.

Tomorrow, Vietnam president pay a visit to Japan and would be received by Japan Emperor ... for something new and important

 

[TheTruth]

The sea area doesn't belong to anyone, are you illiterate in geopolitics? China claims the features, not the entire sea like you and the Philippines.

 

[BoQ77]

The sea area doesn't belong to anyone, are you illiterate in geopolitics? China claims the features, not the entire sea like you and the Philippines.

You are not wiser

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

dafuq?????Riau Islands now????

its almost near Coast of Malaysia..is it me or others too think that China increased its 9 dotted Line???

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that large dot is outside of this 9 dotted line completely,right???that red arrow points Riau Islands...

@Viet @Zero_wing @Battle of Bach Dang River @Kiss_of_the_Dragon @Genesis @shuttler and others....

The so-called "nine dash line" Chinese greedy claim that also violates into EEZ of Natuna Islands (Indonesia). China is deliberately hiding this fact to lull Indonesian. Indonesia should act rightnow before it is too late...

 

[Wholegrain]

The so-called "nine dash line" Chinese greedy claim that also violates into EEZ of Natuna Islands (Indonesia). China is deliberately hiding this fact to lull Indonesian. Indonesia should act rightnow before it is too late...

You are a liar, China openly brought up the issue of the EEZ with Indonesia and hid nothing. Its the Indonesian government which downplayed the dispute.

Natuna Islands

The Natunas, some 400 miles northeast of Sumatra, have been a subject of dispute since 1993, when Beijing published a map showing Chinese "historic claims" on a gas field northeast of the islands. Jakarta rejected these claims as without basis in international law. China has since sought to reassure Indonesia that it does not lay claim to the Natunas, nor all the waters of the South China. China renounced its claims on the Natunas in 1995, but not the gas field.

Although China does not claim the Natuna Islands themselves, considered Indonesian territory, PRC maps of the region include the waters just north of the Natunas. Indonesia insists the area is part of its EEZ. These waters cover part of the world’s largest offshore gas fields. With an estimated 1.27 trillion cubic meters of recoverable gas, they represent 40% of Indonesia’s gas reserves

 

[cnleio]

Each country can throw money into this 'Black Hole' of South China Sea dispute, when their government bankrupt Chinese will come back again.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

You are a liar, China openly brought up the issue of the EEZ with Indonesia and hid nothing. Its the Indonesian government which downplayed the dispute.

Natuna Islands

The Natunas, some 400 miles northeast of Sumatra, have been a subject of dispute since 1993, when Beijing published a map showing Chinese "historic claims" on a gas field northeast of the islands. Jakarta rejected these claims as without basis in international law. China has since sought to reassure Indonesia that it does not lay claim to the Natunas, nor all the waters of the South China. China renounced its claims on the Natunas in 1995, but not the gas field.

Although China does not claim the Natuna Islands themselves, considered Indonesian territory, PRC maps of the region include the waters just north of the Natunas. Indonesia insists the area is part of its EEZ. These waters cover part of the world’s largest offshore gas fields. With an estimated 1.27 trillion cubic meters of recoverable gas, they represent 40% of Indonesia’s gas reserves

Your quote also said that.

The Natunas, some 400 miles northeast of Sumatra, have been a subject of dispute since 1993, when Beijing published a map showing Chinese "historic claims" on a gas field northeast of the islands. Jakarta rejected these claims as without basis in international law. China has since sought to reassure Indonesia that it does not lay claim to the Natunas, nor all the waters of the South China. China renounced its claims on the Natunas in 1995, but not the gas field.

Although China does not claim the Natuna Islands themselves, considered Indonesian territory, PRC maps of the region include the waters just north of the Natunas. Indonesia insists the area is part of its EEZ. These waters cover part of the world’s largest offshore gas fields. With an estimated 1.27 trillion cubic meters of recoverable gas, they represent 40% of Indonesia’s gas reserves

 

[Wholegrain]

Your quote also said that.

The Natunas, some 400 miles northeast of Sumatra, have been a subject of dispute since 1993, when Beijing published a map showing Chinese "historic claims" on a gas field northeast of the islands. Jakarta rejected these claims as without basis in international law. China has since sought to reassure Indonesia that it does not lay claim to the Natunas, nor all the waters of the South China. China renounced its claims on the Natunas in 1995, but not the gas field.

Although China does not claim the Natuna Islands themselves, considered Indonesian territory, PRC maps of the region include the waters just north of the Natunas. Indonesia insists the area is part of its EEZ. These waters cover part of the world’s largest offshore gas fields. With an estimated 1.27 trillion cubic meters of recoverable gas, they represent 40% of Indonesia’s gas reserves

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You are a liar, you claimed China hid the claims from Indonesia when it did not and openly told Indonesia what was disputed.

The so-called "nine dash line" Chinese greedy claim that also violates into EEZ of Natuna Islands (Indonesia). China is deliberately hiding this fact to lull Indonesian. Indonesia should act rightnow before it is too late...

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

You are a liar, you claimed China hid the claims from Indonesia when it did not and openly told Indonesia what was disputed.

Still your quote:

China has since sought to reassure Indonesia that it does not lay claim to the Natunas, nor all the waters of the South China

 

[Wholegrain]

You are a liar, you claimed China hid the claims from Indonesia when it did not and openly told Indonesia what was disputed.

Still your quote:

China has since sought to reassure Indonesia that it does not lay claim to the Natunas, nor all the waters of the South China[/quote]

That is true, China does not claim the Natuna islands nor all of the waters of thr South China sea, which Indonesia is concned about because of maritime shipping. China specified to Indonesia it claims part of what Indonesia considers Natuna's EEZ. China openly said this to Indonesia. This is an old dispute which Indonesia was well aware of but played down.

Natuna Islands

The Natunas, some 400 miles northeast of Sumatra, have been a subject of dispute since 1993, when Beijing published a map showing Chinese "historic claims" on a gas field northeast of the islands. Jakarta rejected these claims as without basis in international law. China has since sought to reassure Indonesia that it does not lay claim to the Natunas, nor all the waters of the South China. China renounced its claims on the Natunas in 1995, but not the gas field.

Although China does not claim the Natuna Islands themselves, considered Indonesian territory, PRC maps of the region include the waters just north of the Natunas. Indonesia insists the area is part of its EEZ. These waters cover part of the world’s largest offshore gas fields. With an estimated 1.27 trillion cubic meters of recoverable gas, they represent 40% of Indonesia’s gas reserves

 

[Wholegrain]

haha nice try 9 dot claim is stupid and illogical

The Philippines claim to Spratlys, Sabah, Mindanao and Sulu fits that description.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

That is true, China does not claim the Natuna islands nor all of the waters of thr South China sea, which Indonesia is concned about because of maritime shipping. China specified to Indonesia it claims part of what Indonesia considers Natuna's EEZ. China openly said this to Indonesia. This is an old dispute which Indonesia was well aware of but played down.

Natuna Islands

The Natunas, some 400 miles northeast of Sumatra, have been a subject of dispute since 1993, when Beijing published a map showing Chinese "historic claims" on a gas field northeast of the islands. Jakarta rejected these claims as without basis in international law. China has since sought to reassure Indonesia that it does not lay claim to the Natunas, nor all the waters of the South China. China renounced its claims on the Natunas in 1995, but not the gas field.

Although China does not claim the Natuna Islands themselves, considered Indonesian territory, PRC maps of the region include the waters just north of the Natunas. Indonesia insists the area is part of its EEZ. These waters cover part of the world’s largest offshore gas fields. With an estimated 1.27 trillion cubic meters of recoverable gas, they represent 40% of Indonesia’s gas reserves

Natuna Islands fully international legal basis for its EEZ 200 nm. What the hell base on for China claims that water?

 

[ViXuyen]

The Phillipines would need to put more boats on patrol; otherwise, over a long period of time the chinkom fishermen and coast guard will make it a habit or legitimacy that any sea sovereinty of the Phillipines will no longer under the jurisdiction of the Phillipine. This 400-ton boat that Viet Nam builds for $1 million usd is very friendly in term of price.

1 AK-176M 76.2mm
1 AK-630M 30mm
2 KPTV 14.5mm
2 Igla/Igla-S
30 day endurance
4600 km range

 

[cirr]

CCG 3402

 

[hurt]

The Phillipines would need to put more boats on patrol; otherwise, over a long period of time the chinkom fishermen and coast guard will make it a habit or legitimacy that any sea sovereinty of the Phillipines will no longer under the jurisdiction of the Phillipine. This 400-ton boat that Viet Nam builds for $1 million usd is very friendly in term of price.

1 AK-176M 76.2mm
1 AK-630M 30mm
2 KPTV 14.5mm
2 Igla/Igla-S
30 day endurance
4600 km range

very fridendly price
TT-400TP gunboat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cost:US$1,000,000 Unarmed
No radar,no fire warning system and weapons control systems and no weapon =$1 million •

maybe no Diesel engines.

Plz tell me how much about Mtu 4000kw x 3