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Yes, if they come to the Indian Ocean, than you come to the SC Sea. :lol:

They come to Indian Ocean which is already occupied by India .... :lol:

We have Islands all over IOR close to India and we are setting up bases in all strategic locations, we are also building bases for our marines. IN is growing very fast and can take on any formidable foe. We will get one aircraft carrier this year end and two more are planned.
Our Destroyers,frigates, corvettes and other combatants are inducted very fast :cheers:
 
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:what: Obama warns China against ‘coercion’ at sea

US President Barack Obama warned China on Thursday against the using force or intimidation in its tense maritime disputes with its neighbours and urged a peaceful resolution.

Obama, meeting Chinese officials who were in Washington for wide-ranging talks, “urged China to manage its maritime disputes with its neighbours peacefully, without the use of intimidation or coercion,” a White House statement said.

Tensions have steadily risen between China and Japan, which accuses its growing neighbour of sending an increasing number of ships to exert its claim over sparsely populated islands managed by Tokyo in the East China Sea.

The Philippines and Vietnam have also charged that China has used assertive means to exert claims in the conflict-riven South China Sea, although tensions have abated slightly with Hanoi in recent weeks.

State Councilor Yang Jiechi, addressing a press event at the end of the two days of talks, said that China supported “freedom of navigation in all oceans” and “will continue to firmly implement its policy.”

The United States since 2010 has repeatedly been outspoken over the South China Sea, saying that it has a national interest in ensuring freedom of navigation but does not take sides on individual claims.

With an eye on the tensions, the United States has boosted military cooperation with Japan and the Philippines - which are both treaty-bound allies - as well as with former war adversary Vietnam.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/80569/obama-warns-china-against-coercion-at-sea
 
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They weren't blessed with it. They conducted a brutal invasion of Champa (now Southern Vietnam) and massacred the majority of the Cham population and replaced them with Vietnamese. They then stole the Mekong Delta from Cambodia. There are Utsuls in China descended from Cham refugees fleeing the Vietnamese invasion.


Just like Manchus captured Han China then Xinjianag and tibet.....
 
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this was the reply from china: State Councilor Yang Jiechi, addressing a press event at the end of the two days of talks, said that China supported “freedom of navigation in all oceans” and “will continue to firmly implement its policy.” :devil:
 
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PH slaps China with 8 facts vs 'baseless' claim
BY PATERNO ESMAQUEL II
07/15/2013

MANILA, Philippines – Point by point, the Philippines rebuffed China on Monday, July 15, after the Chinese Foreign Ministry said the Philippines' Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) lied in Belgium about the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) dispute.

In a press conference, DFA spokesman Raul Hernandez presented 8 facts to belie the statement made by Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hua Chunying last Friday, July 12.

Hernandez took exception to this statement by Hua: “The Philippines' claim that ‘it had exhausted almost all political and diplomatic avenues for a peaceful settlement of the dispute’ is completely not true.”

Hua was referring to a speech by Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario in Brussels, Belgium, last July 9, about the maritime dispute between the Philippines and China.

In turn, Hernandez said on Monday, “The Chinese statement is baseless.” He also blasted China’s “rigid position” that goes: “Tanggapin ninyo na amin ang buong South China Sea bago tayo mag-usap.” (First accept that the whole South China Sea is ours before we start talking.)

8 points vs China

“For the record,” Hernandez said, “we wish to present the facts as follows:

1. “As we had previously stated on numerous occasions, the Philippines and China have been exchanging views on these disputes in attempts to achieve negotiated solutions since the first Philippines-China Bilateral Consultations on the South China Sea Issue were held in August 1995. However, despite more than 17 years of consultations, no progress has been made.

2. “Since intrusions in the Bajo de Masinloc started in April 2012 alone, we have had nearly 50 consultations with China.

3. “On maritime talks indicated by China in the ASEAN meetings in Brunei, we clarify that, in fact, the Philippines invited China to hold informal talks. This was held early last year, including a two-day session in Manila. Subsequent plans to meet further were overtaken by continuing intrusions by China, especially in Bajo de Masinloc since April last year.

4. “We had all along been indicating publicly our 3-track approach of diplomatic, political, and legal tracks, including arbitration.

5. “Prior to our filing of the arbitration case, in contradiction with China’s declaration in the ASEAN meetings in Brunei that we did not signal a possible Philippine arbitration track, we did invite China to join us in bringing the issue to a dispute settlement mechanism to resolve the issue on a long-term basis. This was officially communicated through a note verbale dated April 26, 2012. In its official response to our note verbale, China stated that our proposal was a 'none ground' issue and it urged the Philippines 'to refrain from any infringement on China’s territorial sovereignty.'

6. “Prior to this, on various occasions, we had verbally invited China to join us in ITLOS. In fact, during the very first official visit of Secretary Albert F del Rosario to China in July 2011, he proposed to Chinese top leaders to jointly bring this issue to ITLOS for adjudication. During the visit, Secretary Del Rosario met at length with Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi who subsequently brought the Secretary to meet with then Vice President Xi Jinping.

7. “Secretary Albert F del Rosario visited Beijing 3 times with an invitation for the Chinese Foreign Minister to visit Manila for consultations. Up to now, we are awaiting a favorable response to our renewed invitations.”

8. “In all of these dialogues, China has consistently maintained its hard line position of ‘indisputable sovereignty’ over the South China Sea, including the West Philippine Sea, based on historical facts. The Chinese unequivocal message: Tanggapin ninyo na amin ang buong South China Sea bago tayo mag-usap. It has, therefore, become impossible to continue bilateral discussions on disputes in the West Philippine Sea with China on the basis of this rigid position. This led us to finally resort to arbitration under Annex VII of the UNCLOS.”

'Peaceful' move but...

Hernandez added the Philippines “remains steadfast in peacefully resolving” the dispute before the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS). The arbitral tribunal to settle the dispute “is now in place,” he noted.

China, however, has rejected the proceedings initiated by the Philippines.

“We moreover reiterate that the Philippines adheres to the agreement reached between the leaders of the Philippines and China in 2011 ‘not to let the maritime disputes affect the broader picture of friendship and cooperation between the two countries,” Hernandez said.

The Philippines and China remain caught in a decades-long dispute over portions of the West Philippine Sea.

To help settle the issue, Del Rosario has invited Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi to visit the Philippines. This was after reportedly “testy exchanges” between them in the recent Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) forum in Brunei.

Territorial disputes also drive a wedge between China and other members of the ASEAN – Brunei, Malaysia, and Vietnam. – Rappler.com
 
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They weren't blessed with it. They conducted a brutal invasion of Champa (now Southern Vietnam) and massacred the majority of the Cham population and replaced them with Vietnamese. They then stole the Mekong Delta from Cambodia. There are Utsuls in China descended from Cham refugees fleeing the Vietnamese invasion.
They could thank you for what happened to them. They just paid a price for their aggression against Vietnam.

Actually the Kingdom of Champa and Khmer Empire were the two most powerful nations in SE Asia. Over centuries they posed a serious threat to Vietnam. Encouraged by China (Ming Dynasty), they kept attacking us and killed our people, until we said enough is enough. At the end of the day we wiped them off the map.

When the Vietnamese army conquered the Champa capital of Vijaya in 1471, we burned the city to the ground and butchered them until the last man, the Khmers suffered similar fate. Especially the Chams did a mistake and calculated with Chinese help in case of Vietnamese invasion. A clear message was sent out to other nations in SE Asia: don´t mess with us, and it is not wise to side with China as they cannot help you, stay neutral!

I think this message is still understood, even after 600 years.
 
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