South China Sea Forum

[Viet]

@Martian2:

1 unit of Type 054 frigate costs about $US 250 million
1 unit of SS-N-25 anti-ship missile costs about $US 0,5 million

Let take 2 missiles on 1 warship, so that would cost us about $ US 1 million. That would be a huge loss for the Chinese if they dare to send these costly warships into the SCS war zone.

I am not peaceful if it comes to a worst case.

 

[NewCastle2012]

Anti-ship missile is always an extremely cost-effective weapon against ships. Since SS-N-25 is a type of airborne missile, the top priority is to shot down the Su-30s or to keep them at least 200Km away.

@Martian2:

1 unit of Type 054 frigate costs about $US 250 million
1 unit of SS-N-25 anti-ship missile costs about $US 0,5 million

Let take 2 missiles on 1 warship, so that would cost us about $ US 1 million. That would be a huge loss for the Chinese if they dare to send these costly warships into the SCS war zone.

I am not peaceful if it comes to a worst case.

 

[Martian2]

@Martian2:

1 unit of Type 054 frigate costs about $US 250 million
1 unit of SS-N-25 anti-ship missile costs about $US 0,5 million

Let take 2 missiles on 1 warship, so that would cost us about $ US 1 million. That would be a huge loss for the Chinese if they dare to send these costly warships into the SCS war zone.

I am not peaceful if it comes to a worst case.

China's Type 054 Jiangkai-II frigate has a modern radar. You Vietnamese do not possess that kind of high technology.

The Jiangkai-II frigate will detect and sink your puny little corvettes long before the Jiangkai-II frigate comes within range of the tiny radars on your Vietnamese corvettes.

Buying a missile is useless if you (Vietnam) don't have a modern radar to detect the enemy (China) at great distances before they (China) detect and destroy you (Vietnam).

 

[grandmaster]

China's Type 054 Jiangkai-II frigate has a modern radar. You Vietnamese do not possess that kind of high technology.

The Jiangkai-II frigate will detect and sink your puny little corvettes long before the Jiangkai-II frigate comes within range of the tiny radars on your Vietnamese corvettes.

Buying a missile is useless if you (Vietnam) don't have a modern radar to detect the enemy (China) at great distances before they (China) detect and destroy you (Vietnam).

common, it is ok to let them brag about other countries' weapons! use these weapons to kill mosquitoes is good for human being though

 

[Fil Pacifist]

China is 20 Germanies

You're retarded.
By the way, Filipino monkeys have no right to brag and speak on behalf of the United States. The U.S. gave your country a measly $30 million in military aid for 2012 to make you go away. That can hardly be called strong support.

No one will fight a war for Filipinos. There is no vital U.S. national interest. You Filipinos will have to eventually face the PLA Navy on your own.

In 1988, at the battle of Johnson Reef, the Vietnamese sent out their marines for a showdown with the PLA Navy. The PLA Navy wiped out all of the Vietnamese marines, except for one survivor. The Vietnamese were stupid to confront a Chinese frigate, but at least they had guts.

Come out you Filipino chickens. You and your monkey leader Aquino trash talk a lot, but where are your Filipino marines? Send them out and let the PLA Navy mow you idiots down.

Why is it that this Formosan, who is acting more "HAN" than the mainlanders have this chronic obsession with monkeys? Does he also share the habits of the mainlanders who relish licking the b*tts of these little primates?

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[Battle of Bach Dang River]

common, it is ok to let them brag about other countries' weapons! use these weapons to kill mosquitoes is good for human being though

Yes, but when Russia-Vietnam "Jointly Manufacture" it will no longer the "other countries' weapons." Do you understand? View quote in # 264

 

[Martian2]

$1 trillion cuts in the U.S. military budget over the next ten years

You anti-China haters need to live in the real world. The U.S. military is in the process of being gutted.

There is $1 trillion over ten years being cut from the Pentagon budget starting January 2013 (right after the presidential election). In ten years, the U.S. military will be a shadow of its current self.

There will be no significant U.S. attempt to counterbalance China in Asia. If you're broke, you can't do squat. That's a fact.

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Pentagon plans for pivot to Asia need work: study | Reuters

"Pentagon plans for pivot to Asia need work: study
WASHINGTON | Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:34pm EDT
...
The Pentagon "has not adequately articulated the strategy behind its force posture planning nor aligned the strategy with resources in a way that reflects current budget realities," CSIS said in its report.

While the Pentagon is planning to make nearly $500 billion in cuts to projected spending over the next 10 years, it is seeking to stave off an additional $500 billion in potential cuts under a process known as 'sequestration.'"

[Note: Thank you to Paul Yih for the newslink.]

[Additional note: Sequestration is an automatic across-the-board cut to the annual U.S. budget, unless the Democrats and Republicans can agree on a budget deal. We all know hell will freeze over before Democrats (more taxes on the rich) and Republicans (lower taxes on the rich and reduced spending on everything except the military) can agree to aforesaid budget deal. Therefore, sequestration is inevitable.]

 

[Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ]

China's Type 054 Jiangkai-II frigate has a modern radar. You Vietnamese do not possess that kind of high technology.

The Jiangkai-II frigate will detect and sink your puny little corvettes long before the Jiangkai-II frigate comes within range of the tiny radars on your Vietnamese corvettes.

Buying a missile is useless if you (Vietnam) don't have a modern radar to detect the enemy (China) at great distances before they (China) detect and destroy you (Vietnam).

Czech Defense Minister Talks up High-Tech Arms Sales to Vietnam - RP Defense

Vietnam is going to buy VERA-E which can detect even F-22...
And they said that Chinese J-20 will have a better stealth technology than F-22

 

[Martian2]

Czech Defense Minister Talks up High-Tech Arms Sales to Vietnam - RP Defense

Vietnam is going to buy VERA-E which can detect even F-22...
And they said that Chinese J-20 will have a better stealth technology than F-22

Key word is "going to." You guys are always "going to" do something. That is pure speculation. Wait until you actually have something before you start bragging. Okay?

Right now, you Vietnamese have nothing. No Kilo submarine or VERA-E radar. Got it?

 

[Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ]

Key word is "going to." You guys are always "going to" do something. That is pure speculation. Wait until you actually have something before you start bragging. Okay?

Right now, you Vietnamese have nothing. No Kilo submarine or VERA-E radar. Got it?

Can China buy VERA-E?
Is China going to attack Vietnam this year?
No, and no

 

[Martian2]

Can China buy VERA-E?
Is China going to attack Vietnam this year?
No, and no

China has advanced second-generation naval AESA radar. Want me to post the picture again for you?

Will China attack Vietnam to defend its South China Sea sovereignty this year? It depends on Vietnamese provocations.

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Next-generation AESA radar for China's Type 052C destroyer undergoes tests

The current S-band AESA radar for China's Type 052C destroyer is convex-shaped. It has "a maximum range of 450km and a maximum resolution of 0.5 meters."

The new next-generation AESA radar is flat and square-shaped (shown below). Its capabilities are currently unknown.

Close-up view of next-generation AESA radar for China's Type 052C destroyer. Try to ignore the distracting fence.

Next-generation AESA radar for the Type 052C destroyer undergoes tests on weapon-testbed Ship #891.

[Note: Thank you to Greyboy2 for the post.]

 

[Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ]

Will China attack Vietnam to defend its South China Sea sovereignty this year? It depends on Vietnamese provocations.

Nah, to invade SCS this year...
BTW, the answer will still be "no"

Next-generation AESA radar for China's Type 052C destroyer undergoes tests

A simple question: Can your Radar detect F-22?

 

[Martian2]

A simple question: Can your Radar detect F-22?

No one knows. The F-22 is optimized for stealth in the X-band. The Chinese naval AESA radar operates in the S-band. The Chinese KJ-2000 AWACS operates in the L-band. Other Chinese ground radars operate in the low radar bands (e.g. VHF or UHF).

Theoretically, a F-22 should be visible in other radar bands. However, no one knows for sure at what distance a F-22 is visible in other radar wavelengths.

 

[Viet]

question: can Chinese warships detect incoming missiles of type of SS-N-25 Switchblade and SS-N-26 Yakhont?

$1 trillion cuts in the U.S. military budget over the next ten years
You anti-China haters need to live in the real world. The U.S. military is in the process of being gutted.

There is $1 trillion over ten years being cut from the Pentagon budget starting January 2013 (right after the presidential election). In ten years, the U.S. military will be a shadow of its current self.

There will be no significant U.S. attempt to counterbalance China in Asia. If you're broke, you can't do squat. That's a fact.

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Not, if the candidats Romney/Ryan from the Republican win the election. The military cut will be abandoned, and moreover they will increase the defence budget by 10%.

 

[Martian2]

question: can Chinese warships detect incoming missiles of type of SS-N-25 Switchblade and SS-N-26 Yakhont?

Not, if the candidats Romney/Ryan from the Republican win the election. The military cut will be abandoned, and moreover they will increase the defence budget by 10%.

Yes, they are easily detectable with radar or infrared. Neither Russian missile is stealthy. They can be shot down with an anti-missile missile or CIWS.

Romney has very little chance of winning. Have you seen the electoral map? Don't count on a Romney victory.