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[Viet]

Yes, they are easily detectable with radar or infrared. Neither Russian missile is stealthy. They can be shot down with an anti-missile missile or CIWS.

Again, how exactly can you easily detect and destroy incoming missiles of this type?
The rockets fly only few meters over the water surface when approaching a target.

I don´t believe the Russians sell junk to us.

 

[Martian2]

Again, how exactly can you easily detect and destroy incoming missiles of this type?
The rockets fly only few meters over the water surface when approaching a target.

I don´t believe the Russians sell junk to us.

CIWS shoots down an incoming missile flying above the water at 0:32 in the video

1. You seem to be unaware that radar can detect a submarine's tiny periscope peeking above the water surface. A missile flying meters above the water is a relatively easy target to detect with modern radars.

2. A CIWS (close in weapon system) has been proven to shoot down an incoming missile. See 0:32 in the video below.

3. There are surface radars specifically designed to guide anti-missile missiles to their target.

4. I never said the Russians are selling you junk. I just said an incoming missile can be shot down with the proper defensive weapons, which China possesses.

Goalkeeper CIWS Gun System - YouTube

 

[NiceGuy]

CIWS shoots down an incoming missile flying above the water at 0:32 in the video

1. You seem to be unaware that radar can detect a submarine's tiny periscope peeking above the water surface. A missile flying meters above the water is a relatively easy target to detect with modern radars.

2. A CIWS (close in weapon system) has been proven to shoot down an incoming missile. See 0:32 in the video below.

3. There are surface radars specifically designed to guide anti-missile missiles to their target.

4. I never said the Russians are selling you junk. I just said an incoming missile can be shot down with the proper defensive weapons, which China possesses.

Goalkeeper CIWS Gun System - YouTube

If we shoot from 3 to 5 Yakhont at the same time, then you have No chance to shoot them down

Simple tactic to sink a warship: shoot more anti-ship missile than anti-anti ship missile of the warship.

 

[Martian2]

If we shoot from 3 to 5 Yakhont at the same time, then you have No chance to shoot them down

Simple tactic to sink a warship: shoot more anti-ship missile than anti-anti ship missile of the warship.

1. China has thousands of anti-missile missiles. China has been building missiles for decades. You Vietnamese can't afford to buy more than a handful of Russian missiles. Your strategy won't work.

2. I've already stated that advanced Chinese AESA radars can detect little Vietnamese corvettes long before Chinese warships come within range of crappy Vietnamese radars. China gets to see and shoot first at a very long range. You Vietnamese have no chance of winning.

 

[Viet]

We have three options to fire antiship missiles: warships, aircrafts and last but not least coastal-based positions.
If a war breaks out, we are sure that Russia and the U.S. will support Vietnam with all the funny things we need for a fight.

In theory we never have a chance against China. But the reality says differently.

 

[NiceGuy]

1. China has thousands of anti-missile missiles. China has been building missiles for decades. You Vietnamese can't afford to buy more than a handful of Russian missiles. Your strategy won't work.

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how many anti-antin ship missile One warship can carry ?? your ships can't just carry thousand missiles at same time.

2. I've already stated that advanced Chinese AESA radars can detect little Vietnamese corvettes long before Chinese warships come within range of crappy Vietnamese radars. China gets to see and shoot first at a very long range. You Vietnamese have no chance of winning

Hehe, then where is your warship and aircraft when our su-27 patrolled near Itu-aba isl ??

 

[Martian2]

how many anti-antin ship missile One warship can carry ?? your ships can't just carry thousand missiles at same time.

Hehe, then where is your warship and aircraft when our su-27 patrolled near Itu-aba isl ??

A 4,000-ton Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate can carry a lot more anti-missile missiles than your Vietnamese toy 500-ton corvettes.

 

[grandmaster]

A 4,000-ton Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate can carry a lot more anti-missile missiles than your Vietnamese toy 500-ton corvettes.

common, we know what degree china is at. it is not worth replying vietnamese bragging. just pretend to be scared of their stuff and ignore them, vietnamese doesnt deserve hearing such kind of frigate

 

[NiceGuy]

A 4,000-ton Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate can carry a lot more anti-missile missiles than your Vietnamese toy 500-ton corvettes.

And where is it when our su-27 patrolled near Itu-aba isl ?? docking at bay and cry like coward baby ?? poor you

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

A 4,000-ton Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate can carry a lot more anti-missile missiles than your Vietnamese toy 500-ton corvettes.

It can withstand how many this type missiles:

Or this type:

common, we know what degree china is at. it is not worth replying vietnamese bragging. just pretend to be scared of their stuff and ignore them, vietnamese doesnt deserve hearing such kind of frigate

Yes, and you deserve for what?

 

[Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ]

common, we know what degree china is at. it is not worth replying vietnamese bragging. just pretend to be scared of their stuff and ignore them, vietnamese doesnt deserve hearing such kind of frigate

They have nukes, you know

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

"Emotion of Truong Sa" by Vũ Anh Tuấn: [April 2012]

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

"Emotion of Truong Sa" by Vũ Anh Tuấn: [April 2012]

 

[Martian2]

Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate has a 32-cell VLS launcher and two Type 730 CIWS

GrandMaster is correct. I shouldn't waste my time with you Vietnamese clowns. Hence, this is my last post on China's 4,000-ton Jiangkai II frigate.

The [Type 054A Jiangkai II] frigate "Yantai" of the 11th Chinese naval escort flotilla arrives at Constanta port, about 220 km East of Bucharest, capital of Romania, July 31, 2012. (Photo/Xinhua)

Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy soldiers stand on board at the frigate "Yantai" of the 11th Chinese naval escort flotilla as it arrives at Constanta port, about 220 km East of Bucharest, capital of Romania, July 31, 2012. The Chinese frigate began a five-day goodwill visit to Romania from Tuesday. (Photo/Xinhua)

New close-up pictures of Type 054A's vertical launchers all opened

1. China's Type 054A has a very powerful engine and modern long-range radar in comparison to a tiny Vietnamese corvette. It can detect and destroy a corvette beyond the range of a tiny corvette's short-range antiquated radar.

2. China's Type 054A has a 32-cell VLS (vertical launch system) that carries HQ-16 missiles, which are equivalent to American SM-2 missiles.

3. China's Type 054A has two Type 730 CIWS (close-in weapon system) for short-range defense.

Reference: Type 054A frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Note: Thank you to Greyboy2 for the pictures and third caption.]

 

[NiceGuy]

Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate has a 32-cell VLS launcher and two Type 730 CIWS

GrandMaster is correct. I shouldn't waste my time with you Vietnamese clowns. Hence, this is my last post on China's 4,000-ton Jiangkai II frigate.

Useless cheap copy ship, we're controlling the sky near Itu-aba now, and we can't see that junk dares to roam around