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[jhungary]

You are low educated boy, do you know about Ton-kin accident in Vietnam - US war ? Muddox warship of 7th flottia was destroyed by our navy.

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was the two naval skirmishes between North Vietnam’s torpedo boats and the United States Navy destroyers. It took place in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin on August 2 and August 4, 1964. On August 2, 1964, while conducting intelligence-collecting operations in hostile waters off the coast of North Vietnam, the US destroyer USS Maddox was attacked by three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron.

Since when did the Maddox destroyed by the North Vietnamese.........

Maddox finished his tour with the US Navy and transferred to ROCN as Po Yang in the 1972.

And most recent researched show that even the first strike was a fake, some historian believe USS maddox is hitted with a dry run of Vietnamese torpedo. Not an actual strike

 

[Fsjal]

Vietnam army SSM Scud-B/Scud-C installations, variant:
Scud B, range 300 km, warhead 985 kg
Scud C, range 550km, warhead 770 kg

Lol, these missiles are old. They take long just to get ready. As for DF-15 and DF-11, they are more accurate and only take minutes to get ready.

 

[Viet]

永暑礁， 9°37′0″N 112°58′0″E / 9.616667°N 112.966667°E / 9.616667; 112.966667
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Oh, thanks. Our missiles are ready to destroy the target, just in case you start a war.

Lol, these missiles are old. They take long just to get ready. As for DF-15 and DF-11, they are more accurate and only take minutes to get ready.

old or not, they are good enough to erase a small islet in the SC sea. BTW Vietnam can self-produce Scud-B tactical missiles.

 

[Viet]

Vietnam´s Sovereignty exhibition attracts visitors


Updated : 2/22/2013 10:44:57 AM
Voice of VN

The exhibition on Hoang Sa island attract the participation of all classes of people, school pupils. (Photo: Tuoi tre)

visitors

Postal Atlas of China published in 1933 shows China’s territory stretching as far as Hainan island (Photo: danangcity.gov.vn)


The exhibition showcasing newly-discovered documents relating to Vietnam’s sovereignty over Hoang Sa (Paracel) archipelago was wrapped up in the central city of Danang on February 21.

The event attracted thousands of domestic and foreign visitors, among them about 300 were from China, more than 100 from Japan and 500 from West European countries. They expressed their support for truth and justice that they learned through the documents at the event.

Dang Cong Ngu, Chairman of the Hoang Sa district People’s Committee, said visitors’ opinions written in the museum’s comment book revealed that they supported the organisation of the exhibition for the first time.
Many condemned China’s illegal occupation of the Hoang Sa Archipelago.

The exhibition, the largest of its kind to date, included 125 collections of maps, three atlases and 102 books published in Western countries during the 18th and 19th centuries. The documents, originally in English, German, French, Spanish, Italian and Dutch, and translated into Vietnamese, affirm Vietnam’s sovereignty over Hoang Sa and Truong Sa archipelagoes.

 

[EastSea]

Since when did the Maddox destroyed by the North Vietnamese.........

Maddox finished his tour with the US Navy and transferred to ROCN as Po Yang in the 1972.

And most recent researched show that even the first strike was a fake, some historian believe USS maddox is hitted with a dry run of Vietnamese torpedo. Not an actual strike

All aggressors can produce and modify the news (USA or China) in such manner as they want. The truth was that our Torpedo have been opened fire on provocateur, enemy's ship.

Photo taken from USS Maddox during the incident, showing three North Vietnamese motor torpedo boats

A North Vietnamese P-4 engaging USS Maddox.

 

[jhungary]

All aggressors can produce and modify the news (USA or China) in such manner as they want. The truth was that our Torpedo have been opened fire on provocateur, enemy's ship.

Photo taken from USS Maddox during the incident, showing three North Vietnamese motor torpedo boats

A North Vietnamese P-4 engaging USS Maddox.

Maybe in your dream the USS MAddox (DD-731) was destroyedby Heroic North Vietnamese navy torpedo boat. With loss with all hand perhaps?

Then explain to me how the second fake engagement which is the actual clause of the Vietnam War occur? If Maddox is destroyed by your Heroic Navy in the first one??

Fact to the matter is, USS Maddox taken 1 14.7mm cannon hit and no casualty. And stuck off Naval Register and transferred to ROCN.

Now, are you ready to tell me ROCN bought a ghost ship from us? Or they bought a wreck from Gulf of Tokin??

USS Madox DD-731 in 1966 (The bottom ship with pennant 731 on bow)

USS Maddox (DD-731) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dude, do you even know how America got involved in Vietnam war?
Or you are just Nice Guy Number 2??

 

[NiceGuy]

Dude, do you even know how America got involved in Vietnam war?
Or you are just Nice Guy Number 2??

You got involve coz VN is in the center of ASEAN , so US also can control Malacca plus China and protecting the oil-food supply route to Guam from Cam Ranh bay-VN.

Just like Mongol barbarian,US got humiliated defeated and they're going to collapse like Mongol empire after that defeat

Communist revival is ineviable,and USSR-Cuba brothers will soon enslave ur people

 

[chinapakistan]

All aggressors can produce and modify the news (USA or China) in such manner as they want. The truth was that our Torpedo have been opened fire on provocateur, enemy's ship.

Photo taken from USS Maddox during the incident, showing three North Vietnamese motor torpedo boats

A North Vietnamese P-4 engaging USS Maddox.

Indeed I were low educated, I can not reach ur level.there is no way I can get high score in a Vietnam version history test.

 

[Fsjal]

Indeed I were low educated, I can not reach ur level.there is no way I can get high score in a Vietnam version history test.

Did USS Maddox really got sunk?
If did, the Vietnamese wins hands down.

 

[Viet]

Vietnamese Coast Guard on patrol

 

[jhungary]

Did USS Maddox really got sunk?
If did, the Vietnamese wins hands down.

Well, if USS maddox did not got sunk by Vietnamese navy then all their "Score" are comign from "imaginary" performance of there Vietnamese Individual Brain

If it did got sunk by the Vietnamese, then the 2nd Fake "Ghost Engagement" can never occur and the Whole Vietnam war did not happen, then those "Score" are also coming from the "imaginary" Performance of these Vietnamese Brain

 

[jhungary]

Vietnamese Coast Guard on patrol

I think Vietnam need more Sub rather than surface vessel. You probbaly cannot go head to head with China in Surface ship but you can do soemthing like the German did in WW2 to blockade the whole SCS with sub.

 

[Soryu]

I think Vietnam need more Sub rather than surface vessel. You probbaly cannot go head to head with China in Surface ship but you can do soemthing like the German did in WW2 to blockade the whole SCS with sub.

China does not used same tactics like England and "the war" is different in here SCS. They don't want fire first shoot also become a bad boy, so they used civilian ships with light arm.

We need improve number of patrol vessel to control situation, Filippine lose in scarborough because they not hold enough ships.

For first step, 6 Kilo is enough, number of our submarines is more than any ASEAN country. VN need time to train and fit new toys in Navy for tactic combine all force in defense.

 

[jhungary]

China does not used same tactics like England and "the war" is different in here SCS. They don't want fire first shoot also become a bad boy, so they used civilian ships with light arm.

We need improve number of patrol vessel to control situation, Filippine lose in scarborough because they not hold enough ships.

For first step, 6 Kilo is enough, number of our submarines is more than any ASEAN country. VN need time to train and fit new toys in Navy for tactic combine all force in defense.

Patrol boat only good at Early warning and intel gathering. If you want to keep tab on the Chinese Navy, then Patrol boat is the way to go. But in case of a stand off in SCS, Vietnam need something that can break the circle, surface ship will be powerless against the PLAN. Sub on the other hand can balance the fight.

It was the truth that our Torpedos have been opened fire on US Navy warship ? What does it mean ? Can you understand ?

Dude, open fire and sunk is two different concept. Can you even understand that??

You open fire DOES NOT EQUAL TO you destroy such ship.

In WW2, US used 170,000 Torpedo against Japanese Warship, so does that mean we sunk 170,000 Japanese warship??
If what you think uis true, then the 7th Fleet would already no longer exist as i think Vietnam, regardless how small it is, could have fired more than 100 torpedo toward American Warship. We only have 96 War ship in 7th Fleet. So should i say the Base in Japan and the Bases in Peral Harbor is actually empty?

If you cannot understand such a simple thing then i cannot help you LOL :coffee

 

[EastSea]

High educated in vietnam version history guy, if you prefer to living virtualized world, no way stops you.You can think whatever you wanna think, it does not affect the real world any.

Very poor idea, low educated boy.

It was not "virtualized world". It was truth: 1954 France Colonie, 1973 Uncle Sam, and 1979 Mr. Ah Q (note that it means China, you may don't understand who is this) went home.
1965 the US destroyer USS Maddox was attacked by three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats. And now, if China is still going to be mad man, what have to do with him when we have more weapon, like 6 kilos imported from Russia and Bastion missile ?