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World should heed US interests in South China Sea arbitration -- Egyptian experts
Source:Xinhua Published: 2016-7-16 13:49:48
Egyptian experts say the international community should be vigilant about veiled US interests in the South China Sea arbitration case.
Though it was the Philippines that initiated the case against China, the United States predominated it, Diyaa El-Fiqy, a political analyst on international affairs, told Xinhua.
"In the past, the Philippines signed a deal to solve the problem in a friendly way via negotiations, but it reversed its promises under US pressures and went to arbitration," he said.
The United States uses the freedom of navigation as a pretext to interfere in the South China Sea through the Philippines, El-Fiqy added.
"The United States is entirely upset about the development of China as a powerful country," he said."This is their biggest fear."
El-Fiqy's remarks were echoed by Nabil Zaki, who said Washington has exerted pressure on the arbitral tribunal.
"The United States wants to stir up a new cold war in the region to contain a fast-growing China both economically and politically," Zaki said.
El-Fiqy said people should pay attention to the logic of Washington behind the issue, the same as behind the Iraq War, which was recently exposed by Britain's investigation report on the Iraq War.
The United States has double-standard policies because it has never respected international law, and it invaded Iraq without approval from the United Nations Security Council, El-Fiqy said.
The Iraq War destabilized the Middle East, leading to the rise of the Islamic State group, he added.
Washington's worries about China are not justified, and it "seeks to repeat the Iraqi mess to prevent China from growing," the expert concluded.
Zaki reckons Washington's intervention in countries of the Middle East are intended for resources in the region. "After the Middle East, It is trying to poke its nose into the South China Sea now," he said.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/994648.shtml
Source:Xinhua Published: 2016-7-16 13:49:48
Egyptian experts say the international community should be vigilant about veiled US interests in the South China Sea arbitration case.
Though it was the Philippines that initiated the case against China, the United States predominated it, Diyaa El-Fiqy, a political analyst on international affairs, told Xinhua.
"In the past, the Philippines signed a deal to solve the problem in a friendly way via negotiations, but it reversed its promises under US pressures and went to arbitration," he said.
The United States uses the freedom of navigation as a pretext to interfere in the South China Sea through the Philippines, El-Fiqy added.
"The United States is entirely upset about the development of China as a powerful country," he said."This is their biggest fear."
El-Fiqy's remarks were echoed by Nabil Zaki, who said Washington has exerted pressure on the arbitral tribunal.
"The United States wants to stir up a new cold war in the region to contain a fast-growing China both economically and politically," Zaki said.
El-Fiqy said people should pay attention to the logic of Washington behind the issue, the same as behind the Iraq War, which was recently exposed by Britain's investigation report on the Iraq War.
The United States has double-standard policies because it has never respected international law, and it invaded Iraq without approval from the United Nations Security Council, El-Fiqy said.
The Iraq War destabilized the Middle East, leading to the rise of the Islamic State group, he added.
Washington's worries about China are not justified, and it "seeks to repeat the Iraqi mess to prevent China from growing," the expert concluded.
Zaki reckons Washington's intervention in countries of the Middle East are intended for resources in the region. "After the Middle East, It is trying to poke its nose into the South China Sea now," he said.
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AS I opined earlier on, everyone is a loser here except USA.
Imagine USA who is not a signatory of the UNCLOS meaning USA does not respected your 200NM EEZ now called on the China to respects international law meaning Philippines 200NM EEZ (PCA is a European Tribunal panel from 1899 and was never a part of the UN, ICJ is whose ruling USA failed to respect)
In an Arbitration Process,
The judges must be shown to be IMPARTIAL but are they? Since Shunji Yanai ( a well known Japanese Rightist) by appointment, paid and report to Albert Del Rosaria, the former Philippines Minister of Foreign Affair selected all his 5 judges and their approval by Philippines. ( All their fees and expenses paid by Philippines), how can they considered themselves as IMPARTIAL.
Next China has truly compliied with international law by citing Article 298, hence she is right indeed. The panel has neither the jurisdiction nor the enforcement power to force China to participate.
In conclusion, as I opined Philippines WON a Political Victory but it is a HOLLOW victory and the newly installed Phiilippines President Duterte understands it. He now called for bilateral negotiation and discussion as a way forward.
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As I mentioned earlier, nothing will change. The base building will continue, America will patrol nearby and 'challenge' China, and China will protest. In the end, the bases are still there, getting reinforced by the day. After 15 years when 3 battlegroups are formed and the DF-26/21 targeting systems are complete. Nobody will dare challenge the ADIZ.
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Deployment of UN peacekeepers in West Philippine Sea proposed
July 17, 2016 Ruben Santos
Senator Panfilo Lacson last week said that United Nations (UN) Peacekeepers could be deployed to West Philippine Sea to protect Filipino fishermen following the decision of Tribunal at the Permanent Court of Arbitration.
“With all its military might, I don’t think gegerahin [ng China] yung United Nations. Makakalaban nila dun community of nations na,” the Senator said as quoted by CNN Philippines.
The Philippines is actively sending troops in support of UN’s peacekeeping missions around the world. There are currently 16 peacekeeping operations led by UN Department of Peacekeeping Operations.
Just recently, July 8, the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) has deployed 135-strong all-Army 20th Philippine Contingent to Haiti (PCH) to support United Nations Stabilization Mission in Haiti (MINUSTAH).
The 20th PCH replaces the all-Air Force 19th PCH which arrived in the country July 11. The 19th PCH members were given their United Nations Service Medals at the GHQ Canopy Area, Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City.
The UN does not have its own military force, it only depends on contributions from Member States.
In addition to maintaining peace and security, peacekeepers are increasingly charged with assisting in political processes; reforming judicial systems; training law enforcement and police forces; disarming and reintegrating former combatants; supporting the return of internally displaced persons and refugees.
http://www.update.ph/2016/07/deployment-of-un-peacekeepers-in-west-philippine-sea-proposed/7649
July 17, 2016 Ruben Santos
Senator Panfilo Lacson last week said that United Nations (UN) Peacekeepers could be deployed to West Philippine Sea to protect Filipino fishermen following the decision of Tribunal at the Permanent Court of Arbitration.
“With all its military might, I don’t think gegerahin [ng China] yung United Nations. Makakalaban nila dun community of nations na,” the Senator said as quoted by CNN Philippines.
The Philippines is actively sending troops in support of UN’s peacekeeping missions around the world. There are currently 16 peacekeeping operations led by UN Department of Peacekeeping Operations.
Just recently, July 8, the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) has deployed 135-strong all-Army 20th Philippine Contingent to Haiti (PCH) to support United Nations Stabilization Mission in Haiti (MINUSTAH).
The 20th PCH replaces the all-Air Force 19th PCH which arrived in the country July 11. The 19th PCH members were given their United Nations Service Medals at the GHQ Canopy Area, Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City.
The UN does not have its own military force, it only depends on contributions from Member States.
In addition to maintaining peace and security, peacekeepers are increasingly charged with assisting in political processes; reforming judicial systems; training law enforcement and police forces; disarming and reintegrating former combatants; supporting the return of internally displaced persons and refugees.
http://www.update.ph/2016/07/deployment-of-un-peacekeepers-in-west-philippine-sea-proposed/7649
Good luck with that.
http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/operations/rolesc.shtml
And as a permanent member, China has Veto power:
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南海7月19日、20日、21日（0700-1700）将在19-20N/110-33E、18-40N/110-25E、18-40N/111-04E、19-20N/111-04E，四点连线水域范围内进行军事活动，禁止驶入。
HN0053 SOUTH CHINA SEA MILITARY EXERCISES 2300UTC TO 0900UTC DAILY FROM 18 JUL TO 21 JUL IN AREA BOUNDED BY 1)19-20N/110-33E,2)18-40N/110-25E,3)18-40N/111-04E,4) 19-20N/111-04E. ENTERING PROHIBITED. HAINAN M.S.A.
HN0053 SOUTH CHINA SEA MILITARY EXERCISES 2300UTC TO 0900UTC DAILY FROM 18 JUL TO 21 JUL IN AREA BOUNDED BY 1)19-20N/110-33E,2)18-40N/110-25E,3)18-40N/111-04E,4) 19-20N/111-04E. ENTERING PROHIBITED. HAINAN M.S.A.
Diplomacy, not courthouse, key to resolving South China Sea dispute: European Parliament member
Source:Xinhua Published: 2016-7-15 23:38:35
Diplomacy, instead of courthouse, is the right path to solve the South China Sea disputes between China and its neighbors, a European Parliament member said Thursday.
Helmut Scholz, member of the European Parliamentary Group of the European United Left-Nordic Green Left, told Xinhua that the award of an arbitral tribunal in The Hague cannot replace negotiations, which is evidently clear when taking into account the reactions of all the parties involved.
On Tuesday, the tribunal handling the South China Sea arbitration case unilaterally initiated by the former Philippine government issued its final award, denying China's long-standing historic rights in the South China Sea.
"The negotiations should focus on three areas: avoiding military confrontation, guaranteeing safety of passage and emphasizing mutually beneficial cooperation," Scholz added.
He believed that the time has come for Beijing and Manila to work together through mutual cooperation and confidence building in a bid to end the territorial dispute.
"As we have seen in common fisheries policies and closer cooperation on environmental protection and marine research, such an approach is entirely logical," he cited his experience as a member in the Committee on International Trade of European Parliament.
Scholz's opinion echoed a white paper issued by the Chinese government on Wednesday as a response to the ill-founded award, saying China adheres to the position of settling the South China Sea disputes through negotiation.
"Mutual engagement can only help contribute to the strengthening of international law and, crucially, to help build on the foundations of bilateral and multilateral relationships which are based on lawful and objective policies," Scholz concluded.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/994592.shtml
Source:Xinhua Published: 2016-7-15 23:38:35
Diplomacy, instead of courthouse, is the right path to solve the South China Sea disputes between China and its neighbors, a European Parliament member said Thursday.
Helmut Scholz, member of the European Parliamentary Group of the European United Left-Nordic Green Left, told Xinhua that the award of an arbitral tribunal in The Hague cannot replace negotiations, which is evidently clear when taking into account the reactions of all the parties involved.
On Tuesday, the tribunal handling the South China Sea arbitration case unilaterally initiated by the former Philippine government issued its final award, denying China's long-standing historic rights in the South China Sea.
"The negotiations should focus on three areas: avoiding military confrontation, guaranteeing safety of passage and emphasizing mutually beneficial cooperation," Scholz added.
He believed that the time has come for Beijing and Manila to work together through mutual cooperation and confidence building in a bid to end the territorial dispute.
"As we have seen in common fisheries policies and closer cooperation on environmental protection and marine research, such an approach is entirely logical," he cited his experience as a member in the Committee on International Trade of European Parliament.
Scholz's opinion echoed a white paper issued by the Chinese government on Wednesday as a response to the ill-founded award, saying China adheres to the position of settling the South China Sea disputes through negotiation.
"Mutual engagement can only help contribute to the strengthening of international law and, crucially, to help build on the foundations of bilateral and multilateral relationships which are based on lawful and objective policies," Scholz concluded.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/994592.shtml
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Vietnam News Agency refutes China’s coverage about East Sea issue
VNA MONDAY, JULY 18, 2016 - 21:06:53 PRINT
China's illegal construction in the East Sea (Source: VNA)
Hanoi (VNA) – The Vietnam News Agency on July 18 was empowered to declare refuting untruthful coverage by the Chinese press regarding the East Sea issue which was discussed during a meeting between Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang on the sidelines of the Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) Summit in Ulan Bator, Mongolia on July 14.
Following the meeting, a number of Chinese official press outlets, including Xinhua, the English version of newswire chinadaily.com.cn and the Chinese version of the People’s Daily quoted PM Nguyen Xuan Phuc as saying that “Vietnam respects China’s stance on the South China Sea arbitration case, which was unilaterally initiated by the Philippines, and maintains that such disputes should be solved peacefully through negotiations” and “Vietnam stands ready to push forward bilateral maritime negotiations and properly manage differences with China, in order to contribute to regional peace and stability”.
In fact, PM Phuc asked both sides to seriously realise agreements and common perceptions by senior leaders, including the agreement on basic principles guiding the settlement of issues at sea between Vietnam and China signed by Party Secretary General Nguyen Phu Trong and his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao in October 2011.
He said it is meant to promote mechanisms of negotiating sea-related issues, manage differences at sea, avoid further complicating the situation, and fully and effectively realise the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the East Sea as well as reach a Code a Conduct in the East Sea soon, contributing to maintaining peace and stability in the region.
The Vietnamese PM also reaffirmed Vietnam’s stance on the ruling of the Permanent Court of Arbitration on July 12, 2016 in The Hague, the Netherlands, on the Philippines’ lawsuit against China in the East Sea issue.
Earlier on July 12, Foreign Ministry’s spokesman Le Hai Binh said Vietnam welcomes the arbitration tribunal’s issuance of the final ruling on July 12,
“Vietnam once again reiterates its consistent stance on this lawsuit as it was fully shown in the Vietnamese Foreign Ministry’s Declaration on December 5, 2014, sent to the arbitration tribunal,” he noted.
“In that spirit, Vietnam strongly supports settling disputes in the East Sea through peaceful measures, including diplomatic and legal processes without the use or threat to use force, as in line with regulations of international law, including the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, maintaining peace and stability in the region, security, safety and freedom of navigation in and overflight over the East Sea, and respecting the law-abiding principle in seas and oceans,” Binh said.
“On this occasion, Vietnam once again affirms its sovereignty over Hoang Sa (Paracel) and Truong Sa (Spratly) archipelagos, the sovereignty over internal waters and territorial waters, the sovereign right and jurisdiction over Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone and continental shelf as defined in line with the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.
“Vietnam upholds all of its legitimate rights and interests regarding the geographical structures belonging to Hoang Sa and Truong Sa archipelagoes,” stated the spokesperson.-VNA
VNA MONDAY, JULY 18, 2016 - 21:06:53 PRINT
China's illegal construction in the East Sea (Source: VNA)
Hanoi (VNA) – The Vietnam News Agency on July 18 was empowered to declare refuting untruthful coverage by the Chinese press regarding the East Sea issue which was discussed during a meeting between Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang on the sidelines of the Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) Summit in Ulan Bator, Mongolia on July 14.
Following the meeting, a number of Chinese official press outlets, including Xinhua, the English version of newswire chinadaily.com.cn and the Chinese version of the People’s Daily quoted PM Nguyen Xuan Phuc as saying that “Vietnam respects China’s stance on the South China Sea arbitration case, which was unilaterally initiated by the Philippines, and maintains that such disputes should be solved peacefully through negotiations” and “Vietnam stands ready to push forward bilateral maritime negotiations and properly manage differences with China, in order to contribute to regional peace and stability”.
In fact, PM Phuc asked both sides to seriously realise agreements and common perceptions by senior leaders, including the agreement on basic principles guiding the settlement of issues at sea between Vietnam and China signed by Party Secretary General Nguyen Phu Trong and his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao in October 2011.
He said it is meant to promote mechanisms of negotiating sea-related issues, manage differences at sea, avoid further complicating the situation, and fully and effectively realise the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the East Sea as well as reach a Code a Conduct in the East Sea soon, contributing to maintaining peace and stability in the region.
The Vietnamese PM also reaffirmed Vietnam’s stance on the ruling of the Permanent Court of Arbitration on July 12, 2016 in The Hague, the Netherlands, on the Philippines’ lawsuit against China in the East Sea issue.
Earlier on July 12, Foreign Ministry’s spokesman Le Hai Binh said Vietnam welcomes the arbitration tribunal’s issuance of the final ruling on July 12,
“Vietnam once again reiterates its consistent stance on this lawsuit as it was fully shown in the Vietnamese Foreign Ministry’s Declaration on December 5, 2014, sent to the arbitration tribunal,” he noted.
“In that spirit, Vietnam strongly supports settling disputes in the East Sea through peaceful measures, including diplomatic and legal processes without the use or threat to use force, as in line with regulations of international law, including the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, maintaining peace and stability in the region, security, safety and freedom of navigation in and overflight over the East Sea, and respecting the law-abiding principle in seas and oceans,” Binh said.
“On this occasion, Vietnam once again affirms its sovereignty over Hoang Sa (Paracel) and Truong Sa (Spratly) archipelagos, the sovereignty over internal waters and territorial waters, the sovereign right and jurisdiction over Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone and continental shelf as defined in line with the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.
“Vietnam upholds all of its legitimate rights and interests regarding the geographical structures belonging to Hoang Sa and Truong Sa archipelagoes,” stated the spokesperson.-VNA
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Chinese vice president appreciates Laos' support on South China Sea
Xinhua, July 19, 2016
Chinese Vice President Li Yuanchao on Tuesday met with Lao Defense Minister Chansamone Chanyalath, expressing China's appreciation for Laos' support on the South China Sea issue.
"China appreciates Laos' firm support on the South China Sea issue," Li told Chansamone during their meeting in Beijing.
China holds that the issue can only be solved through dialogue and negotiation, said Li, adding that this position was "consistent and unwavering."
Stressing that the two countries share common development opportunities through cooperation, Li said he hoped China and Laos could deepen mutually beneficial cooperation to advance their comprehensive strategic partnership.
Chansamone said Laos greatly valued cooperation with China.
Laos has always understood and supported China's stance on the South China Sea issue, backing the peaceful settlement of disputes through negotiation between the countries directly concerned, he said.
Xinhua, July 19, 2016
Chinese Vice President Li Yuanchao on Tuesday met with Lao Defense Minister Chansamone Chanyalath, expressing China's appreciation for Laos' support on the South China Sea issue.
"China appreciates Laos' firm support on the South China Sea issue," Li told Chansamone during their meeting in Beijing.
China holds that the issue can only be solved through dialogue and negotiation, said Li, adding that this position was "consistent and unwavering."
Stressing that the two countries share common development opportunities through cooperation, Li said he hoped China and Laos could deepen mutually beneficial cooperation to advance their comprehensive strategic partnership.
Chansamone said Laos greatly valued cooperation with China.
Laos has always understood and supported China's stance on the South China Sea issue, backing the peaceful settlement of disputes through negotiation between the countries directly concerned, he said.
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Keep going ... the time when u building the island, China already made ten more in the region. U knew that it's a game u can't win vs China in real world. maybe U can dream the American or Japanese someone willing to die for Vietnam island in SCS to stop China, or as far as i know ADIZ in SCS will coming. When the day come, just enjoy it.
Who can stop China in SCS ? Only the WAR, which one take first ?
Oh, come on, those bullshjt again, cnleio !?
War, begging Americanm, Japanese ... etc !? If you want the war, fire a bullet first. You, not anyone else.
Did you know what I want to say !? What a waste of time.
