South China Sea Forum

[Viet]

No, Kim Jong Un has purged pro-china group. Now only Pakistan.

yes, you are right. that is sad.
I wonder why Chinese as the all best weather friend does not protect them before the next US drone strike?

 

[Edison Chen]

yes, you are. that is sad.

That is awesome. Why would we want to please a beggar which depends on our charity?

 

[sword1947]

Barack Obama is too soft. It is his weakness that encourages Chinese aggression.
the regions from Japan to Philippines to Vietnam are slowing turning into battlefields.

I believe the solution lies in Japan. it must shoulder more responsibilities.

go and take his place in white house, smart viet

 

[yusheng]

Offer some details about China Vietnam SCS conflict for PDF friends

Recently, there is a way of saying that the area which 981 working now is the area where Vietnam and Mobil has explored for years and after the exploring Mobil handed the most important data to China, that is why now 981 began to explore in that area. Then Vietnam has no power to resist except raising riot and the result is out of anticipation which the opposite part in Vietnam applied it to undermine VCP.

One can see on the map that the 981 is very near the position where Vietnam and Mobil once worked together when Vietnam considered that China would do nothing if cooperating with US, but this thinking is very simple and naïve. It is doomed from the beginning, compared with Vietnam, Mobil has much more business in China and no doubt Mobil will choose China as his associator.

On 2008 Vietnam and Mobil explored the area and China issued a stern warning, but the exploring did not stop. And the strange thing is that during the same time the cooperation between China and Mobil deepened. In 2013 when deputy general manager of Mobil, also general manger in China of Mobil Mark W. Albers met the president of CNPC ,China National Petroleum Corporation, Zhou Jiping, saying “during the last 5 years, Mobil and CNPC expanded well cooperation in many ways”. How could Mobil make China not worry about his working with Vietnam on SCS, otherwise China would not give so many chances to Mobil doing business in China, what is Mobil promised?

In fact, Mobil declared oil reserve on SCS in 2011 and then no further exploitation due to one, long time of negotiation and two, risk consideration, Mobil certainly understands clearly that it is very hard to collect oil there without Chinese permission, and it is very possible that Mobil sold Vietnam and gave the data to China for exchange, so it is explainable Mobil expanded his business in China while still exploring with Vietnam. And as reported 2013, China and Mobil cooperate on Iraq huge oil field; such international strategic cooperation indicates there was undercover dealing.

The latest news is that one Vietnam fish boat sank, also reported half Vietnam ship were damaged by Chinese attack, showing that Vietnam is too weak again China, and China pressed much more without fearing escalation. That leads the internal divergence in Vietnam. Asking for help from Philippines and Japan can not change SCS situation since Vietnam got only oral assistances. same from the USA's mouth. Then how long can southern part (mostly Vietnam PM) can persist? If don’t stop in time and begin to turn to west, then Chinese backfire would fierce ….. If rational part of Vietnam wins, power of Vietnam PM may limited or even quit.


Vietnam pm went out for outside help when he can not get enough assistance from inside, he may upgrade the situation for his last straw. Situation will worsen but not inevitable to war; However, if China reckons that Vietnam could not amend itself and China has to do something, then Vietnam will suffer.

The game between China and Vietnam shows that small country should not play hand wresting with big country if there is conflict for radical interest. Take the Mobil for example, international group only seeks money and will not offend China for small benefits. Vietnam’s plan failed from the start.



BTW, on 26 May, “zhong ren 1601” left xiao zhou shipment base with loading of 33 pre –construction articles, one of sink box is 27meter long, 20meter wide, 11 high, 4000 ton. Means China is going to constructer huge base in SCS.
Huge sink box is only for huge dock or under earth hangar.

 

[Viet]

go and take his place in white house, smart viet

well, US senator Benjamin Cardin is visting Vietnam right now. he is also the Chairman of the East Asian and Pacific Affairs. He supports Vietnam and sharply critizes China. as the talk is secret, nobody knows details.

Perhaps we will see more US warships soon in the East Vietnam Sea

In time, he may improve so much that he will stop enabling and instigating banana harvesters from claiming territory that doesn't belong to them.

No country in the world recognises your fcking claims. Neither possession of Paracels nor Spratlys that you took from us by force. China will never get international recognition of your occupation without Vietnam consent.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

yes, you are right. that is sad.
I wonder why Chinese as the all best weather friend does not protect them before the next US drone strike?

All weather except it rains, I guess.

 

[Jlaw]

well, US senator Benjamin Cardin is visting Vietnam right now. he is also the Chairman of the East Asian and Pacific Affairs. He supports Vietnam and sharply critizes China. as the talk is secret, nobody knows details.

Perhaps we will see more US warships soon in the East Vietnam Sea

No country in the world recognises your fcking claims. Neither possession of Paracels nor Spratlys that you took from us by force. China will never get international recognition of your occupation without Vietnam consent.

Vietnamese way of thinking is very confusing on PDF. Why do Vietnamese sing in joy when a senator visit Vietnam?

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

well, US senator Benjamin Cardin is visting Vietnam right now. he is also the Chairman of the East Asian and Pacific Affairs. He supports Vietnam and sharply critizes China. as the talk is secret, nobody knows details.

Perhaps we will see more US warships soon in the East Vietnam Sea

No country in the world recognises your fcking claims. Neither possession of Paracels nor Spratlys that you took from us by force. China will never get international recognition of your occupation without Vietnam consent.

U.S. Senator says it’s unacceptable to ram, sink Vietnamese fishing boat

The incident in which a Chinese vessel rammed and sank a Vietnamese fishing boat on Monday is obviously unacceptable and at high risk of not only loss of property but loss of life, U.S. Senator Benjamin Cardin told reporters at a press conference in Hanoi on Wednesday.

Benjamin Cardin is now head of U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs.

The United States opposes the unilateral provocative action undertaken by China in the East Sea. Our policies concerning maritime security are well known, in that we believe they must be peacefully resolved. We expect the countries to refrain from provocative action. We would hope that they would deescalate and use international forums, such as that provided under the Conventional Law of the Sea, to support ASEAN’s efforts to have a Code of Conduct, and to do direct diplomacy rather than trying to take provocative action. So this unilateral provocative action by China has created a very high tense circumstance in which we are very concerned. It affects more than the security of Vietnam, but it affects the regional maritime issues which are of interest to the United States and the global community.

U.S. Senator says it’s unacceptable to ram, sink Vietnamese fishing boat

 

[pigtaker]

America should prepare a plan of imposing economics sanction on China. Once TPP is in place, China is no longer needed. Let them trade with N Korea or Pakistan

Why not turn China back to an agrarian state as we had seen a generation ago?

Haha, couldn't you be more serious on this, viets, asking world No2 trading country to sanction No1, where did you learn the math?.

For your information, we just sanction US by stopping using IBM and Cisco products in our banking system, which is a $120billion market by the way. we also cut off america's consulting business with our state-owned company. all of those are reported by Reuters.

Believe me, sanctionning China is far more difficult a task for US than sending all its carrier groups to protect you. So you should work very ,very hard to lick US ***, making them satisfied to send the carriers, this is a more practical dream for you.

 

[DragonEmpire]

After agent orange spraying, Viets can only beg and lick. Laos and Cambodia laugh hard.

 

[Viet]

Vietnamese way of thinking is very confusing on PDF. Why do Vietnamese sing in joy when a senator visit Vietnam?

you don´t get it.

we are crying loud to get help from uncle sam. they should lift weapons embargo as well as provide us with advanced weapons. until now, we only get $18m in form of patrol vessels

 

[Snomannen]

US: "Blah blah blah blah..."
China: "Leh leh leh leh..."
ietnam: "Ha ha ha ha..."

 

[pigtaker]

you don´t get it.

we are crying loud to get help from uncle sam. they should lift weapons embargo as well as provide us with advanced weapons. until now, we only get $18m in form of patrol vessels

Haha, I didn't know until today that you are under US' weapons embargo, yet you dream america coming to rescue you, Where did that optisim come from? you deserve to be brother of indian.

One free tip for you viets, no matter whatever US do, its only purpose is to harm China's interests rather than help you. They are more interesting in your colour revolution.Managing your expectation.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

Look at all the countries America has "helped", such as Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Pakistan, Afghanistan. Are you sure you want their "help"?

 

[vtnsx]

Look at all the countries America has "helped", such as Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Pakistan, Afghanistan. Are you sure you want their "help"?

As long as we can get the chinese out of our asses, then of course we need american help.