South China Sea Forum

[bolo]

Paracels or Hoang Sa is Islands of Vietnam, China ocoupid with force 1974. Its illegal .

You can say Europeans illegally occupied North America, but you will be laughed at and possibly get your teeth kicked in by Americans.

 

[Pangu]

Take a look at US EEZ map. Every island & even atoll (Johnston atoll) has it's own 200nm EEZ. The oil rig is situated within our EEZ in reference to Triton Island (Zhongjian Dao). Case closed.

http://www.gc.noaa.gov/documents/2011/012711_gcil_maritime_eez_map.pdf

 

[bolo]

China requires Vietnam to stop any form of disruptions of Chinese company's operations

Xinhua, 2014-5-9

A Chinese Foreign Ministry official on Thursday urged the Vietnamese side to stop any form of disruption of Chinese company's normal oil drilling in waters administered by China.

Yi Xianliang, Deputy Director-General of the Department of Boundary and Ocean Affairs of the Foreign Ministry of China, held a press briefing together with Li Yong, CEO of China Oilfield Services Limited (COSL), on China's drilling operations in southern waters to the Zhongjian Island of the Xisha Islands of China.

Yi said that since May 2, Vietnam has carried out intensive disruptions of Chinese company's normal oil drilling in waters administered by China. China is deeply surprised and shocked.

Yi said that the Xisha Islands are inherent territory of China and there are no disputes in this area. This operation is undertaken by COSL, and it is a normal drilling activity in the coastal waters of the Xisha Islands of China.

The waters of the operation, which is only 17 nautical miles away from the Zhongjian Island is completely within waters off China's Xisha Islands, he said, adding that it is 130-150 nautical miles away from Vietnam.

Chinese company's operation in waters off the Xisha Islands completely falls within China's sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction, Yi stressed.

Yi said that 10 years ago, Chinese companies have been operating in these waters. From last May to June, Chinese companies carried out 3-D seismic operations in these waters. This operation is only a routine continuation of our operation in these waters of the past decade.

Soon after the Chinese oil rig arrived at the scene of the operation on May 2, the Vietnamese side dispatched 6 vessels which took the first move to deliberately ram into Chinese government ships at the scene of the operation forcefully in an attempt to disrupt China's drilling operations, according to Yi.

Since May 3, Vietnam has sent more vessels to the scene and for many times rammed into Chinese government ships, he added.

China has for many times required the Vietnamese side to follow international practices and heed and respect the navigation notice issued by China's maritime authorities, so as to uphold maritime production and operation order and navigation safety, Yi said.

However, the Vietnamese side sent additional ships to the scene and continued to ram into Chinese vessels at the scene, said Yi, noting that from May 3 to 7, in a short period of 5 days, Vietnam had dispatched 36 vessels of various kinds which rammed Chinese vessels for as much as 171 times.

The Chinese vessels at the scene are only government vessels and civil vessels, Yi said, but the Vietnamese side has many armed vessels deployed to the scene.

In the course of collision, the Chinese side also found frogmen sent by the Vietnamese side 5 meters away from the Chinese government vessels, Yi said, adding that the Vietnamese side also placed many fishing nets and large obstacles in the waters, not only posing security threats to Chinese vessels and facilities, but also jeopardizing normal navigation security, he said.

Vietnam's disruptions of the Chinese company's normal activities have seriously violated China's sovereignty, sovereignty rights and jurisdiction, gravely affected the normal order of production and operation and the safety of China's rig, and caused unnecessary troubles for China-Vietnam relations, said Yi.

Yi said that the Chinese side had to take more security measures in response to Vietnam's disruptions, so as to ensure the order of maritime operation and the safety of navigation.

China has exercised enormous restraint when dealing with provocations by the Vietnamese side, he stressed.

To date, the Chinese side has communicated with the Vietnamese side for 14 times through diplomatic channels, calling on the Vietnamese side to respect China's legitimate rights and interests, come to its senses, stop all forms of disruption and remove immediately all vessels and personnel from the scene, according to Yi.

Yi said that relations between China and Vietnam have experienced steady improvements in recent years. Leaders of the two parties and two states have reached important consensus on strengthening traditional friendship, deepening strategic cooperation and properly handling sensitive issues.

In 2011, China and Vietnam reached the agreement on the basic principles guiding the settlement of maritime issues between China and Vietnam and also launched the consultation of two working groups, one on maritime cooperation in low-sensitive areas and the other on joint development of waters outside the mouth of the Beibu Bay, he said.

In 2013, China and Vietnam identified the overall strategy to develop maritime, land and financial cooperation in parallel which created new prospects for China-Vietnam relations, Yi said, adding that the working group on maritime joint development has held two rounds of consultation and achieved positive progress.

China and Vietnam are neighbors and brothers linked by rivers and mountains, he said, adding that the Chinese side believes that the two countries have the capacity and wisdom to solve the problem.

The Chinese side hopes that the Vietnamese side will cherish what the two have achieved in bilateral relations which
does not come easily and work hard to improve bilateral relations together with China, according to Yi.

I dunno about you, but i am tired of flowery language. That is partially the reason why these small countries are not afraid of China and think Chinese are weaklings. Imagine if it was Vietnamese boats ramming American , s korean, japanese or russian boats?

 

[ViXuyen]

I dunno about you, but i am tired of flowery language. That is partially the reason why these small countries are not afraid of China and think Chinese are weaklings. Imagine if it was Vietnamese boats ramming American , s korean, japanese or russian boats?

Your boats already rammed the American off Hainan and the Japanese Coast guard off Diaoyu

 

[Soryu]

Vietnam has nowhere to step back, only way is China step back or Vietnam fail to protect our EEZ. Chinese Government started this round of game, so I hope they have way to solve this situation.
US should keep their distance and care their mouth.
Other ASEAN country should rise their voice for peaceful of the region.

News :
- Vietnam said Chinese white ship ( civilian ship ) intentionaly ramped Vietnamese white ship. There are 7 grey ships ( military ship ) supporting around. All cannons on ships are uncovered and ready to shoot ( threaten ...ha...ha... who care ? All of Vietnamese on police ships are very brave especially when they are facing Chinese - in blood since 4000 years ). A lot of video clips, a lot of pictures to proove Chinese action and damage of Vietnamese ship in front of many international reporters. Take note that Vietnamese Police ships are not weak and armed ( but covered ) . We are strong enough to fight back but not ( at the moment ), and we will ramp back in next fight. By all means, Vietnam will not step back this time because enemy is right at the door, there are no way to set back.

- Chinese, as usual, replied differently. There are no military ships from China but Vietnam. Vietnam ships ramp Chinese ships. No proof. China wants peace with Vietnam. Only coward ones deny what they have done. How to become a great nation with this coward style, rising China ?

 

[Beast]

Well, still not clear where's China Government keep their aggression going, but so many Chinese keep jump up and down in many Chinese forum cause their navy didn't destroy Vietnamese ships ...

Rather its more of your troll companion brag about how vietnam coast guard going to drive out the rig and how VPN going to crush PLAN. All which yet to happen.

 

[Soryu]

Rather its more of your troll companion brag about how vietnam coast guard going to drive out the rig and how VPN going to crush PLAN. All which yet to happen.

Oh, really !? Seem like I wasn't catch the show in here, cause my life still busy.
Well, we have our fun in here to troll to each other, don't tell me you didn't do that.

Sohu and tiexue forum are very exciting right now with event, you don't know that !?

 

[Soryu]

How far away is the oil rig from Triton Island(中建岛)?

18nm .......................

 

[sincity]

None of your business.It is my FREEDOM and my RIGHT.You American guys should shut up.This is a problem between China and Vietnam.

The **** I care if the war broke out in SCS, I meant not to drag me into your freaking bickering, I"m not represent the US government and you or Vietnamese poster in here don't represent either China or VietNam, stop blowing hot air about which nation have the right for the land, I don't care and I don't give a ****, nothing to do with the US government.

 

[Beast]

Oh, really !? Seem like I wasn't catch the show in here, cause my life still busy.
Well, we have our fun in here to troll to each other, don't tell me you didn't do that.

Sohu and tiexue forum are very exciting right now with event, you don't know that !?

We never troll. PLAN can easily crushed VPN and vietnam is just an egg. While China is more powerful and she is the stone against Vietnam. All this is facts.
Look at the number of fighter jet PLANAF and number of advance warship we.owned against VPN. You definitely know the truth.

 

[Soryu]

We never troll. PLAN can easily crushed VPN and vietnam is just an egg. While China is more powerful and she is the stone against Vietnam. All this is facts.
Look at the number of fighter jet PLANAF and number of advance warship we.owned against VPN. You definitely know the truth.

Oh, I know "the truth" ... but still, here we stand.

 

[sincity]

Start a freaking war over SCS already, whoever win the war will temporary own the island, either blow the island with nukes, negotiate to share the oil exploration together or starting a war over those island, someone need to fire a 1st shot or sit down to negotiate a deal.

 

[Pangu]

The oil rig is within China's 200nm EEZ in reference to Zhongjian Island. Why should we remove our oil rig from our EEZ?

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

The oil rig is within China's 200nm EEZ in reference to Zhongjian Island. Why should we remove our oil rig from our EEZ?

it is more closer of Vietnam main land , to technically it belong to Vietnam, 200 NM from china dose means it can end up on land of Vietnam, It divided equally.

it is more closer of Vietnam main land , to technically it belong to Vietnam, 200 NM from china dose means it can end up on land of Vietnam, It divided equally.

If India start claiming as per china law India owns the 90% of Indian ocean from where Chinese ships passes. Andaman and laskshdeep.

 

[KAL-EL]

Why all the hysteria and chest thumping?