South China Sea Forum

[Zero_wing]

LOL. You love to resort to labeling people and name calling as that is the basis of most of your arguments. I'll say it one more time and don't bother replying, I'm through schooling you.

Little fish do not mess with big fish.

You can name all those Zero-Wing-modified-twisted events where China was humiliated in the past, but the bottom line is our country is stronger than before and still intact. At least most of our population do not have surnames like Cortez, Santiago, Ramirez, Cordeiro, etc like you people. Wonder how you guys have such foreign Spanish surnames?  


A test for CCP.. If they willingly and fully cooperate they are weak and already infiltrated. Time for them to go.

Oh please can you hear yourself your mistaken a situational truth from a Universal truth troll as if you mainlanders are not using that tactic ha screw you as if your commie education has any real weight? keep it your so called education and put it in your bin like your cheap poorly copied trash its nothing but bin material

 

[cirr]

CMS（CCG）52：

 

[Tanja]

Peace in the East Sea

• “In the next 5 following years, the East Sea will remain lots of potential risks and being one of the most complicating disputations in the world
• There, also exists the possible armed conflict in this sea”, said ambassador Đặng Đinh Quy – the president of diplomacy institute in the fifth international scientific conference about the East sea
• Negative and positive sites of the conflicts in East Sea
• The methods for bring back the peace in East Sea

FNOTW: Analysis: Peace in the East Sea

 

[Tanja]

Peace in the East Sea

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  • “In the next 5 following years, the East Sea will remain lots of potential risks and being one of the most complicating disputations in the world
  • There, also exists the possible armed conflict in this sea”, said ambassador Đặng Đinh Quy – the president of diplomacy institute in the fifth international scientific conference about the East sea
  • Negative and positive sites of the conflicts in East Sea
  • The methods for bring back the peace in East Sea

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Navy says Natuna situation still safe
The Jakarta Post, Batam | Archipelago | Sat, November 16 2013, 6:45 AM
Archipelago News

The Indonesian Navy said that the situation in the South China Sea, especially in Natuna regency, Riau Islands, is still secure especially considering that Indonesia is not a claimant in the sea dispute.

The Tanjung Pinang Naval Main Base (Lantamal) commander, Cmdr. Agus Heryana said recently that the factual condition in the South China Sea was always safe although there were efforts blowing it out of proportion.

“It is always depicted as being explosive although the navies deployed in the area are not operating aggresively,” he said.

“The tensions are rising for claimant states in disputes with China, such as Brunei Darussalam, the Philippines and Vietnam. There is minimal tension between Indonesia and China.”

Agus added, however, that the Navy headquarters had a policy to deploy its warships in the waters surrounding Natuna to safeguard the area.

“The warships are there to safeguard Indonesian territory, that’s all. We deployed three warships there but not as a response to the situation or the that the issue of Natuna has become heated.”

When asked about China’s Nine-dotted-line claim, which includes Natuna, Agus said it was not a problem for Indonesia.

“It is OK for China to include it in its claim but as long as there is no endorsement by the United Nations, they cannot do anything,” he said.

“They can claim it but it is not as straight forward as that.”

The Navy will host the 2014 Komodo Multilateral Exercise involving 28 warships and 4,500 sailors from 18 countries, including China. The exercise will be held in Anambas, Batam and Natuna waters.

 

[cirr]

CMS 2169 formally inducted on 15.11.2013：

You guys will see a lot of her in the SCS。

 

[Zero_wing]

Good you see a lot of us too so lets see each other

 

[sree45]

In a significant move, India and Vietnam on Wednesday inked an agreement for developing and expanding oil exploration projects in disputed South China Sea including allocation of new oil blocks, a pact that may irk China further.

The agreement, along with seven more, were inked after Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Nguyen Phu Trong, General Secretary of the Vietnamese Communist Party, held extensive talks on key bilateral and regional issues and ways to enhance bilateral strategic ties.

"Both India and Vietnam belong to a region that holds enormous potential but also many challenges. We have a strong convergence of interests in working together and with others in the region, for a stable, peaceful and prosperous Asia. We have, therefore, sought to build a comprehensive relationship with a broad-based agenda of bilateral and regional cooperation," Singh said at a joint media event with Nguyen.

The Prime Minister also appreciated the offer of another offshore block to ONGC Videsh Limited for continued oil and gas exploration in South China Sea which is witnessing territorial disputes involving both land (island) and maritime among seven sovereign states including China, Philippines and Vietnam within the region.

The MoU between Vietnam Oil and Gas group and ONGC Videsh Limited was inked for the association in the field of exploration, development and production of petroleum resources between the two countries for new investments by OVL in oil and Gas blocks in Vietnam.

Under the MoU, the PetroVietnam, Vietnam state company, was also invited to participate in open blocks in India and in third countries.

OVL is already in joint venture with PetroVietnam in three oil blocks close to the disputed Spratly Islands –known as Nansha Islands in China.

Today's pact may not go down well with China which has time and again objected to India's oil exploration projects in the region. China's Foreign Affairs Ministry has said India should respect its sovereignty and halt its oil and gas exploration.

"China opposes unilateral exploration and development of oil and gas in contested waters of the South China Sea. We hope relevant countries can respect China's claim, position and rights and interests, and respect and support efforts made by countries in the region to solve disputes through bilateral negotiations," it said.

Despite China's objections to Indian oil exploration in South China Sea, Vietnam has been asserting that India has the right to pursue oil exploration there as they were within Vietnamese "exclusive economic zone".

Nguyen also appreciated India's position for peaceful resolution of the issue in the East Sea of Vietnam as per the international law and freedom of navigation.

On the defence and security cooperation, Singh said the two countries have decided to strengthen it further. "India will continue to assist Vietnam in modernization and training of its defence and security forces, including through a USD 100 million line of credit for defence purchases," he said.

India-Vietnam ink pact to expand oil exploration in South China Sea - India - DNA

 

[IndoCarib]

Vietnam’s leader Nguyen Phu Trong visit to India key to rebalancing in SE Asia - The Economic Times

 

[NiceGuy]

Good move from Indian bro, we will protect ur oil company at all cost . If China dare to make trouble wt u , just simply sink its oil tanker in SCS(east sea) and enjoy to watch China's economy collapse

 

[GR!FF!N]

Good news..by the way,which blocks we're getting??one thing is confusing,the blocks India was exploring was nowhere near Spartly as this news claimed..its close to Vietnam's territorial water.

 

[Viet]

Good news..by the way,which blocks we're getting??one thing is confusing,the blocks India was exploring was nowhere near Spartly as this news claimed..its close to Vietnam's territorial water.

here are some details of the deals:
India was awarded with block 6.1, 127 and 128, but you returned block 127 some years ago after no oil was found and will return 128 next year.

Vietnam offers India seven oil blocks in South China Sea - The Hindu

And now the deal sees Vietnam has offered India seven oil blocks in South China Sea, including three on an exclusive basis, and joint prospecting in some Central Asian countries. All blocks lie within Vietnamese EEZ. No info if India has accepted the offer. I think if you say okay, then the location of the blocks will be made public.

India has agreed to train 500 Vietnamese submariners and will transfer four naval boats under a $100-million credit line.

A MoU formalised Vietnam’s decision to award Tata Power a $1.8-billion thermal power project.

 

[Minjitta]

Good move from Indian bro, we will protect ur oil company at all cost . If China dare to make trouble wt u , just simply sink its oil tanker in SCS(east sea) and enjoy to watch China's economy collapse

calm down NiceDude China are soften up now, China know her hard power doesn't work in Asia now China try to be nice to all Asia with soft power, but it's too late China already show her hidden cards with a poor poker face.

 

[GR!FF!N]

@Viet..I know that buddy that India got 127 and 128 and returned one block as there is no significant oil or gas.but those were nowhere near Spartly...

 

[Rainmaker]

Two sides sign eight pacts, including agreement on energy cooperation
Vietnam has offered India seven oil blocks in South China Sea, including three on an exclusive basis, and joint prospecting in some Central Asian countries with which both Hanoi and New Delhi have good political ties.

Following talks between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and visiting Vietnam Communist Party general secretary Nguyen Phu Trong here on Wednesday, the two sides signed eight pacts of which the ones on energy cooperation and protection of information in defence will intensify the already close ties in these two sectors.

The MoU on oil exploration is for three years and its contents have not been made available. Hence it could not be ascertained whether the allocation will fall foul of China which lays claim to a portion of South China Sea that has been under Vietnam’s jurisdiction.

China had not objected to Vietnam allotting the lucrative Block 6.1 to India during the Cold War years in Nam Con Son Basin of South China Sea. But it objected to India taking up exploration in blocks 127 and 128 in Phu Kanh Basin. Chinese objections have included demarches, pressure on companies not to sell equipment to India and the alleged buzzing of an Indian warship that had transited through the disputed portion of South China Sea.

India returned block 127 some years ago after no oil was found and will return 128 next year after a financially disastrous experience with putting a rig in place.

Defence cooperation

For the defence pact, preparatory work was done during meetings between high ranking officials such as Vietnam’s Chief of General Staff Do Ba Ty and Defence Secretary R.K. Mathur during which they agreed to have greater cooperation in capacity building, joint projects and training.

India has already agreed to train 500 Vietnamese submariners and will transfer four naval boats under a $100-million credit line.

As Dr. Singh noted, “we reaffirmed the importance of defence and security cooperation and agreed to strengthen it further. India will continue to assist Vietnam in modernisation and training of its defence and security forces.”

In a joint statement, both leaders termed defence cooperation a “significant pillar” of strategic partnership and noted the increased pace of defence dialogue, training and exercises, ship visits, capacity building and exchanges between think tanks.

On the economic front, an MoU formalised Vietnam’s decision to award Tata Power a $1.8-billion thermal power project after a failed bid by the same company to set up a $5-billion steel plant. An air services agreement, which was also among the eight to be signed, could lead to direct flights giving a boost to trade and tourism.