South China Sea: China Drops a Bombshell

[Ajaxpaul]

Brother, you're a generous man, giving out free lessons these uninformed youngster.

Are you telling me you guys have never heard of India following the "One China" policy?

The Taiwanese semi-official presence in India is called the TECC (Taipei Economic and Cultural Center). It cannot be called an embassy, which would violate the "One China" policy.

Reference: Taipei Economic and Cultural Center in India

I have stated earlier that India follows one china policy...then i came upon some article and was confused.

 

[Martian2]

This is pretty simple. You can conduct business and diplomacy with $8 trillion GDP China or $0.45 trillion Taiwan. Take your pick.

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Hindustan Times: "India follows a one-China policy and doesn’t recognise Taiwan diplomatically."

China key to Taiwan-India pact - Hindustan Times

"China key to Taiwan-India pact
Sutirtho Patranobis Sutirtho Patranobis, Hindustan Times
Taipei, May 30, 2012

First Published: 16:29 IST(30/5/2012)
Last Updated: 01:08 IST(31/5/2012)

Hackneyed as it may sound, both Taiwanese and Indian officials like to expand IT – as in information and technology – as India and Taiwan. One good reason, according to officials, for doing that is both countries complement each other in the IT field: Taiwan is known for its computer hardware and India for its efficiency in software.

Officials expect that when the feasibility study for the India-Taiwan free trade agreement (FTA) is wrapped up later this year, more such complementing – and not so complementary -- aspects of trade and commerce between the two countries will come under focus.

For Taiwan, the feasibility investigation is being done at the Chung-Hua Institution for Economic Research; in India, the Indian Council for Research on International Economic Relations was given the job. “It would be beneficial for both countries and accelerate trade between the two countries. It has increased in the last five-six years but not reached comfort level,’’ Fu-Kuo Liu, research fellow, at the Institute of International Relations at National Chengchi University told HT.

Trade between the two countries in 2011 was around 7.5 billion USD. But that could increase, agreed, Pradeep Kumar Rawat, the director general of the India-Taipei Association in Taiwan. “The feasibility study is looking at the broad parameters of what kind of economic arrangement could the two countries reach? How it could be expanded? There are 12 broad topics like trade in goods and services, transport and logistics, food processing, retail and of course IT,” Rawat said.

But signing an FTA is a matter of complex negotiations. Not the least because domestic business interests are inter-linked with it. Negotiations both bilateral and internal could easily linger on for three-to-five years.

In the case of an India-Taiwan FTA, China could be the other, big factor. For one, India follows a one-China policy and doesn’t recognise Taiwan diplomatically.

“China might not be happy. Beijing doesn’t mind when we negotiate an FTA with countries (like Singapore and New Zealand) with whom they already have a one,” Fu-Kuo said.

But warming China-Taiwan relations could be a possibly antidote to that. In fact, when Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou made a two-hour stopover at a Mumbai airport in April this year, Beijing didn’t react; it was interpreted as warming of Beijing-Taipei ties under President Ma. Whether that warm air influences India-Taiwan trade winds remains to be seen."

 

[Ajaxpaul]

This is pretty simple. You can conduct business and diplomacy with $8 trillion GDP China or $0.45 trillion Taiwan. Take your pick.

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Hindustan Times: "India follows a one-China policy and doesn’t recognise Taiwan diplomatically."

China key to Taiwan-India pact - Hindustan Times

"China key to Taiwan-India pact
Sutirtho Patranobis Sutirtho Patranobis, Hindustan Times
Taipei, May 30, 2012

First Published: 16:29 IST(30/5/2012)
Last Updated: 01:08 IST(31/5/2012)

Hackneyed as it may sound, both Taiwanese and Indian officials like to expand IT – as in information and technology – as India and Taiwan. One good reason, according to officials, for doing that is both countries complement each other in the IT field: Taiwan is known for its computer hardware and India for its efficiency in software.

Officials expect that when the feasibility study for the India-Taiwan free trade agreement (FTA) is wrapped up later this year, more such complementing – and not so complementary -- aspects of trade and commerce between the two countries will come under focus.

For Taiwan, the feasibility investigation is being done at the Chung-Hua Institution for Economic Research; in India, the Indian Council for Research on International Economic Relations was given the job. “It would be beneficial for both countries and accelerate trade between the two countries. It has increased in the last five-six years but not reached comfort level,’’ Fu-Kuo Liu, research fellow, at the Institute of International Relations at National Chengchi University told HT.

Trade between the two countries in 2011 was around 7.5 billion USD. But that could increase, agreed, Pradeep Kumar Rawat, the director general of the India-Taipei Association in Taiwan. “The feasibility study is looking at the broad parameters of what kind of economic arrangement could the two countries reach? How it could be expanded? There are 12 broad topics like trade in goods and services, transport and logistics, food processing, retail and of course IT,” Rawat said.

But signing an FTA is a matter of complex negotiations. Not the least because domestic business interests are inter-linked with it. Negotiations both bilateral and internal could easily linger on for three-to-five years.

In the case of an India-Taiwan FTA, China could be the other, big factor. For one, India follows a one-China policy and doesn’t recognise Taiwan diplomatically.

“China might not be happy. Beijing doesn’t mind when we negotiate an FTA with countries (like Singapore and New Zealand) with whom they already have a one,” Fu-Kuo said.

But warming China-Taiwan relations could be a possibly antidote to that. In fact, when Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou made a two-hour stopover at a Mumbai airport in April this year, Beijing didn’t react; it was interpreted as warming of Beijing-Taipei ties under President Ma. Whether that warm air influences India-Taiwan trade winds remains to be seen."

Point taken.

 

[gambit]

their history books say they had been under the rule of chinese for more then 1000 years before they became a vassal country of china.After that they were conquered by france，japanese and US.That's their glorious history.

The real history is that the Viets have always the most resistant to China's military designs and conquests in Asia. Other nations felled while the Viets continued to fight despite being the underdog throughout.

If they won, why are the Vietnamese so poor at about $1,200 nominal per-capita GDP? They are among the poorest in Asia.

The truth is that Vietnam was squashed by very powerful countries (e.g. French and Americans) and it never recovered.

The Vietnamese would still be slaves today if China had not use its military and economic power to free them from the clutches of the French and Americans.

That is a piss poor argument. You cannot see how this ridiculous 'logic' is applicable to China as well? So let us see...If China won in Korea, then why is China so poor compared to the US?

 

[SinoChallenger]

 

[gpit]

Please dont. I beg you. Post some CPC suppression post if possible

We all know upper caste suppression of low caste is a routine in India and never is news. CPC suppression can thus be refreshing to your sensation making media.

yep,the fate of chinese and indian is great different.

No they don't call it fate. They call it Kamar.

I love to read Martian every post, very informative and educational, however I scroll past most of the troll posts here. BTW, last time I heard, Taiwan is still an official Provence of China. Has that been any changes as some of these uninformed trolls insinuate?

For the lunatic illiterate (note: not ordinary illiterate), Taiwan is a country.

 

[gpit]

This is pretty simple. You can conduct business and diplomacy with $8 trillion GDP China or $0.45 trillion Taiwan. Take your pick.

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Hindustan Times: "India follows a one-China policy and doesn’t recognise Taiwan diplomatically."

China key to Taiwan-India pact - Hindustan Times

"China key to Taiwan-India pact
Sutirtho Patranobis Sutirtho Patranobis, Hindustan Times
Taipei, May 30, 2012

First Published: 16:29 IST(30/5/2012)
Last Updated: 01:08 IST(31/5/2012)

Hackneyed as it may sound, both Taiwanese and Indian officials like to expand IT – as in information and technology – as India and Taiwan. One good reason, according to officials, for doing that is both countries complement each other in the IT field: Taiwan is known for its computer hardware and India for its efficiency in software.

Officials expect that when the feasibility study for the India-Taiwan free trade agreement (FTA) is wrapped up later this year, more such complementing – and not so complementary -- aspects of trade and commerce between the two countries will come under focus.

For Taiwan, the feasibility investigation is being done at the Chung-Hua Institution for Economic Research; in India, the Indian Council for Research on International Economic Relations was given the job. “It would be beneficial for both countries and accelerate trade between the two countries. It has increased in the last five-six years but not reached comfort level,’’ Fu-Kuo Liu, research fellow, at the Institute of International Relations at National Chengchi University told HT.

Trade between the two countries in 2011 was around 7.5 billion USD. But that could increase, agreed, Pradeep Kumar Rawat, the director general of the India-Taipei Association in Taiwan. “The feasibility study is looking at the broad parameters of what kind of economic arrangement could the two countries reach? How it could be expanded? There are 12 broad topics like trade in goods and services, transport and logistics, food processing, retail and of course IT,” Rawat said.

But signing an FTA is a matter of complex negotiations. Not the least because domestic business interests are inter-linked with it. Negotiations both bilateral and internal could easily linger on for three-to-five years.

In the case of an India-Taiwan FTA, China could be the other, big factor. For one, India follows a one-China policy and doesn’t recognise Taiwan diplomatically.

“China might not be happy. Beijing doesn’t mind when we negotiate an FTA with countries (like Singapore and New Zealand) with whom they already have a one,” Fu-Kuo said.

But warming China-Taiwan relations could be a possibly antidote to that. In fact, when Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou made a two-hour stopover at a Mumbai airport in April this year, Beijing didn’t react; it was interpreted as warming of Beijing-Taipei ties under President Ma. Whether that warm air influences India-Taiwan trade winds remains to be seen."

China doesn’t have a petty heart in this aspect. It never stops any country to conduct cultural and economic business with Taiwan.

I believe that China believes: 1) Taiwanese culture is Chinese culture anyways, so promoting Taiwanese culture is promoting Chinese culture; 2) Taiwanese economy is a part of Chinese economy (or vice versa); In addition, business is good for everyone. Of course, provided that those parties don’t challenge
One China” policy, including USA and less significant India.

 

[ajtr]

The Vietnamese escalated by flying warplanes over China's territory in the South China Sea.

We just have to sit back and wait for the military engagement.

China has AESA radar on the Type 052C destroyers with 400km range. China's surface-to-air (SAM) missiles have passed through many generations of production. I'm betting the PLA Navy wins hands down.

When Chinese naval ships shoot down Vietnamese fighters, the territorial dispute between China and Vietnam will finally come to a resolution.

I think all of us are tired of the talking. It's time to see some shooting.

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The South China Sea: Roiling the waters | The Economist

"www.economist.com/node/21558262
4 hours ago – Tensions rise between China and Vietnam in the South China Sea ... 28th that it had launched “combat-ready” patrols in the South China Sea. Earlier Vietnam stated that it was conducting regular air patrols over the Spratlys."

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South China Sea: China Drops a Bombshell

"South China Sea: China Drops a Bombshell
Dean Cheng
July 7, 2012 at 12:00 pm

On June 28, during a press briefing by the Chinese Ministry of Defense, Chinese military press spokesman Senior Colonel Geng Yansheng released a bombshell.

Asked by an unnamed correspondent about China’s response to Vietnamese air force patrols near the Spratly Islands, Geng made the usual declaration about China’s claims to indisputable sovereignty over the Spratlys and their “adjacent waters.” He then stated that the PLA had begun “regular, combat-ready patrols” in waters under Chinese jurisdiction.

The implication is clearly that the Chinese navy is now regularly patrolling the waters around the Spratlys and possibly elsewhere in the South China Sea.

This is an alarming escalation of China’s efforts to assert sovereignty over the South China Sea region. Until now, the various confrontations and incidents in the area—whether with the Philippines over Scarborough Shoal; the Vietnamese over oil exploration efforts; or the United States in the separate incidents involving the USNS Impeccable, USNS Victorious, and the USS John S. McCain III—have had only civilian participants.

There is a bewildering array of Chinese bureaucracies, each of which assumes responsibility for only a portion of China’s maritime interests, including fisheries, agriculture, and the State Oceanic Administration. While this has raised questions about inter-agency coordination in China, the PRC’s use of non-military vessels to make its point regarding sovereignty has also limited the potential for escalation.

With the decision to begin regular naval patrols, however—and especially “combat-ready (zhanbei)” ones—the potential for escalation is far greater.

Even more disturbing is that this measure seems to be part of a larger Chinese effort to exercise full sovereignty over the area. In mid-June, the Chinese State Council established a city-level administration over the various islands and waters of the South China Sea, including the Spratlys and Paracels, with its seat of government on Woody Island, an island in the Paracels seized from South Vietnam in 1974.

Then, on June 23, the China National Offshore Oil Corporation invited bids for oil exploration in blocs well within 200 nautical miles of Vietnam’s coast.

The Chinese are evidently establishing the legal and political framework to solidify their claims of sovereignty. And with the announcement of patrols, they appear to be taking their preparations to support those claims to the next logical level: that of defending them."

Comrades of red book dont get mislead by the Imperialistic and colonial propaganda of the west.

 

[RISING SUN]

The Vietnamese escalated by flying warplanes over China's territory in the South China Sea.

We just have to sit back and wait for the military engagement.

China has AESA radar on the Type 052C destroyers with 400km range. China's surface-to-air (SAM) missiles have passed through many generations of production. I'm betting the PLA Navy wins hands down.

When Chinese naval ships shoot down Vietnamese fighters, the territorial dispute between China and Vietnam will finally come to a resolution.

I think all of us are tired of the talking. It's time to see some shooting.

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The South China Sea: Roiling the waters | The Economist

"www.economist.com/node/21558262
4 hours ago – Tensions rise between China and Vietnam in the South China Sea ... 28th that it had launched “combat-ready” patrols in the South China Sea. Earlier Vietnam stated that it was conducting regular air patrols over the Spratlys."

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South China Sea: China Drops a Bombshell

"South China Sea: China Drops a Bombshell
Dean Cheng
July 7, 2012 at 12:00 pm

On June 28, during a press briefing by the Chinese Ministry of Defense, Chinese military press spokesman Senior Colonel Geng Yansheng released a bombshell.

Asked by an unnamed correspondent about China’s response to Vietnamese air force patrols near the Spratly Islands, Geng made the usual declaration about China’s claims to indisputable sovereignty over the Spratlys and their “adjacent waters.” He then stated that the PLA had begun “regular, combat-ready patrols” in waters under Chinese jurisdiction.

The implication is clearly that the Chinese navy is now regularly patrolling the waters around the Spratlys and possibly elsewhere in the South China Sea.

This is an alarming escalation of China’s efforts to assert sovereignty over the South China Sea region. Until now, the various confrontations and incidents in the area—whether with the Philippines over Scarborough Shoal; the Vietnamese over oil exploration efforts; or the United States in the separate incidents involving the USNS Impeccable, USNS Victorious, and the USS John S. McCain III—have had only civilian participants.

There is a bewildering array of Chinese bureaucracies, each of which assumes responsibility for only a portion of China’s maritime interests, including fisheries, agriculture, and the State Oceanic Administration. While this has raised questions about inter-agency coordination in China, the PRC’s use of non-military vessels to make its point regarding sovereignty has also limited the potential for escalation.

With the decision to begin regular naval patrols, however—and especially “combat-ready (zhanbei)” ones—the potential for escalation is far greater.

Even more disturbing is that this measure seems to be part of a larger Chinese effort to exercise full sovereignty over the area. In mid-June, the Chinese State Council established a city-level administration over the various islands and waters of the South China Sea, including the Spratlys and Paracels, with its seat of government on Woody Island, an island in the Paracels seized from South Vietnam in 1974.

Then, on June 23, the China National Offshore Oil Corporation invited bids for oil exploration in blocs well within 200 nautical miles of Vietnam’s coast.

The Chinese are evidently establishing the legal and political framework to solidify their claims of sovereignty. And with the announcement of patrols, they appear to be taking their preparations to support those claims to the next logical level: that of defending them."

Hey Martian,I am asking a question directly to you. Give me goddamn links which says this ship has 400 km capability.

 

[Martian2]

Hey Martian,I am asking a question directly to you. Give me goddamn links which says this ship has 400 km capability.

There are different radars on the Type 052C destroyer for different purposes. Which one are you asking about specifically? Are you asking about the S-band, A-band, or some other band?

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Type 052C destroyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Radar

The ship is the first Chinese ship fitted with a multifunction Active Phased Array Radar with four antenna arrays, with a reported name Type 348 Radar. China originally imported a Ukrainian C-band active phased array radar for evaluation, but decided that the radar did not meet the Chinese requirement. Instead, China adopted a domestic S-band multifunction active phased array radar with four antenna arrays. The radar is developed by the Research Institute of Electronic Technology (also more commonly known as the 14th Institute) at Nanjing, Jiangsu province, and it is a successor to the 14th Institute's earlier developed Type H/LJG-346 SAPARS (Shipborne Active Phased Array Radar System) that was completed in 1998. Chinese discovered that the S-band adopted by the American AN/SPY-1 passive phased array could be better suited for the requirements for the active phased array radar as well. The radar has reported name of Type 348 Radar and a maximum range of 450 km, and a maximum resolution of 0.5 metres. However, under an earlier but completely different contract, Ukraine did provide cooling technologies for the antenna to China. According to many Chinese claims on the internet, the name assigned for Type 348 radar is Sea Lion, but others claim the name only applies to the export version."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_517_Radar

"Type 517 radar is believed to be an A-band/VHF air search radar widely deployed on PLA-N surface vessels with 4 antennas in two crossed-brace supported pairs, one above the other, pair mounted on each side of a single tublar support carried on the turning gear.

Similar to the Russian P-8 'Dolphin'/KNIFE REST radar which PRC manufactures and deploys for the HQ-2 surface to air system complex, it is believed that the Type 517 have similar capabilities and specifications.

The system is manufactured by the Beijing Leiyin Electronic Technology Development Company (北京雷音电子技术开发有限公&#21496.
Specifications

(Specs based on P-8 KNIFE REST)
A - band (70 - 73 MHz)
Range: 300 KM (est)
Power: 100 kW
Pulse width: 4 - 12 us
Other reported names:
Spider (export)
SUR17B"

 

[NiceGuy]

It's now Vietnam's turn to confront a military superpower. It is politically incorrect for a stronger country to unilaterally attack a weaker country. However, if the weaker country escalates and draws first blood then all bets are off.
.

Superpower ?? don't make me laugh, we killed millions chinese like Pol pot, Yeng sary, looted all gold from them and our "Superpower " neighbour dare not do anything but sit and cry for their lost in Laos-Camb-Thailand

you're just super coward, dare not face with our regular forces in Laos-Camb.

 

[Martian2]

Superpower ?? don't make me laugh, we killed millions chinese like Pol pot, Yeng sary, looted all gold from them and our "Superpower " neighbour dare not do anything but sit and cry for their lost in Laos-Camb-Thailand

you're just super coward, dare not face with our regular forces in Laos-Camb.

Have you seen China's military arsenal lately? We're long past the Pol Pot days. You're living half a century in the past.

China has modernized spectacularly. I suggest you bring your information up to date from the 1970s.

 

[Sashan]

Chinese South China Sea sovereignty is based on:

1. China's historical first discovery and claim in 618 A.D.

South China Sea belongs to China because they discovered and claimed it.

Vietnamese and Filipinos should stop encroaching on thousand-year-old Chinese territory in the South China Sea.

[Source: Wikipedia article on Paracel Islands with primary sources listed in footnotes]

"The coast belonged to the Kingdom of Cauchi China."

"China
618~1279

* There are some Chinese cultural relics in the Paracel islands dating from the Tang and Song dynasty eras[12][note 1], and there is some evidence of Chinese habitation on the islands in these periods.[13]."

2. Unchallenged Chinese dominion for over a thousand years.

The South China Sea islands and territory were claimed by the Tang, Song, and countless other Chinese dynasties. Vietnamese and Filipinos lacked ocean-faring boats and were not even aware of the existence of the Paracel and Spratly Islands from the 7th century to the 17th century.

3. Historical written Chinese imperial records.

Tang, Song, and countless Chinese dynasties describe the Paracel and Spratly Islands as part of China.

4. Physical proof of Chinese inhabitants

Our great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather's bones and belongings are buried on the South China Sea islands. Our Chinese human remains and artifacts are similar to sacred Native American burial grounds of ancestors. The proof of dominion cannot be more clear.

The human remains of which country are found on South China Sea islands? China
The artifacts of which country are found on South China Sea islands? China

[Source: Wikipedia article on Paracel Islands with primary sources listed in footnotes]

5. Vietnamese ceded any legal claim to the Paracel and Spratly Islands on September 14, 1958.

North Vietnam won the civil war against South Vietnam. Therefore, the diplomatic document signed by Vietnam Premier Pham Van Dong on September 14, 1958, which ceded Paracel and Spratly Islands to China, is in effect and legally binding.

Vietnam diplomatic document signed by Vietnam Premier Pham Van Dong

Translation of Vietnamese government's diplomatic document (shown above) into English:

The Democratic Republic of Vietnam's Government agree to terms of China's public statement on 9-4-1958 about China's sea territory claim. The Democratic Republic of Vietnam Government respect it, and will direct all Agencies to absolutely respect the 12 nautical miles sea territory of China in all matters with the People's Republic of China in the East Sea.

Sincerely,

Hanoi 14-9-1958.

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Translation of Vietnamese government's diplomatic document (shown above) into Mandarin/中文:

越南民主共和国承中华人民共和国在1958年9月4日关于中国领海主张的各项条款。越南民主共和国尊重，并且将要求所有越南部门尊重中华人民共和国在东海（我南海）12海里的领海的领海。

敬礼

河内，1958年9月14日

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"Declaration of the Government of the People's Republic of China on China's Territorial Sea (September 4，1958)" in Chinese as follows:

文中所提到的中华人民共和国在1958年9月4日关于中国领海主张的各项条款如下：

中华人民共和国政府宣布

　　（一）中华人民共和国的领海宽度为12海里。这项规定适用于中华人民共和国的一切领土，包括中国大陆及 其沿海岛屿，和同大陆及其沿海岛屿隔有公海的台湾及其周围各岛、澎湖列岛、东沙群岛、西沙群岛、中沙群岛、 南沙群岛以及其他属于中国的岛屿。

　　（二）中国大陆及其沿海岛屿的领海以连接大陆岸上和沿海岸外缘岛屿上各基点之间的各直线为基线，从基线 向外延伸12海里的水域是中国的领海。在基线以内的水域，包括渤海湾、琼州海峡在内、都是中国的内海、在基 线以内的岛屿，包括东引岛、高登岛、马祖列岛、白犬列岛、乌岳岛、大小金门岛、大担岛、二担岛、东碇岛在内 ，都是中国的内海。

　　（三）一切外国飞机和军用船舶，未经中华人民共和国政府的许可，不得进入中国的领海和领海 上空。

　　任何外国船舶在中国领海航行，必须遵守中华人民共和国政府的有关法令。

　　（四）以上（一）（二）两项规定的原则同样适用于台湾及其周围各岛、澎湖列岛、东沙群岛、西沙群岛、南 沙群岛以及其他属于中国的岛屿。

　　台湾和澎湖地区现在仍然被美国武力侵占，这是侵犯中华人民共和国领土完整的和主权的非法行为。台湾和澎 湖等地尚待收复，中华人民共和国政府有权采取一切适当的方法在适当的时候，收复这些地区，这是中国的内政， 不容外国干涉。

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Translation:

Declaration of the Government of the People's Republic of China on China's Territorial Sea （September 4，1958）

　　The Government of the People's Republic of China declares：

　　1. The breadth of the territorial sea of the People's Republic of China shall be twelve nautical miles. This provision applies to all territories of the People's Republic of China including the Chinese mainland and its coastal islands，as well as Taiwan and its surrounding islands，the Penghu Islands，the Dongsha Islands，the Xisha Islands，the Zhongsha Islands，the Nansha Islands and all other islands belonging to China which are separated from the mainland and its coastal islands by the high seas.

　　2. China's territorial sea along the mainland and its coastal islands takes as its baseline the line composed of the straight lines connecting bas-points on the mainland coast and on the outermost coastal islands； the water area extending twelve nautical miles outward from this baseline is China's territorial sea. The water areas inside the baseline，including Bohai Bayand the Chiung chow Straits，are Chinese inland waters. The islands inside the base line，including Tungyin Island， Kaoteng Island，the Matsu Islands，the Paichuan Islands，Wuchiu Island，the Grater And Lesser Quemoy Islands，Tatan Island，Erhtan Island and Tungting Island，are islands of the Chinese inland waters.

　　3. No foreign aircraft and no foreign vessels for military use may enter China's territorial sea and the air space above it without the permission of the Government of the People's Republic of China.

　　While navigation Chinese territorial sea，every foreign vessel must observe the relevant laws of the People's Republic of China and regulations of its government.

　　4. The principles provided in paragraphs （2） and （3） apply also to Taiwan and its surrounding islands，the Penghu Islands，the Dongsha Islands，the Xisha Islands，the Zhongsha Islands，the Nansha islands， and all other islands belonging to China.

　　The Taiwan and Penghu areas are still occupied by the United States armed force. This is anunlawful encroachment on the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the People's Republic of China. Taiwan，Penghu and such other areas are yet to be recovered，and the Government of the People's Republic of China has the right to recover these area by all suitable means at a suitable time. This is China's internal affair，in which no foreign interference is tolerated.

[Note: Thank you to FrankLau for the post and translation.]

6. The entire Vietnamese government admitted to Chinese sovereignty over the South China Sea islands and territory.

On June 15, 1956, Vice Foreign Minister of the DRV (North Vietnam) Ung Van Khiem admitted Chinese sovereignty over the Spratly and Paracel Islands.

Another DRV official, Le Loc (Temporary Head of the Asian Mission), concurred in Chinese sovereignty over South China Sea islands.

In their civil war, North Vietnam (i.e. Democratic Republic of Vietnam or DRV) conquered South Vietnam and became the government of an unified Vietnam. Let's hear it directly from the DRV's mouth with regards to Chinese sovereignty over the Paracel Islands.

"Truong Nhan Tuan: Based on a number of documents from Peking, on 15/6/1956 the Vice Foreign Minister of the DRV Ung Van Khiem, at the time of hosting a visit from the Chinese temporary ambassador in Vietnam, spoke the following: “According to documents that Vietnam has presently, historically speaking, Tay Sa and Nam Sa islands belong to China.”

Nguyen An: Tay Sa and Nam Sa means the Paracel and Spratly islands?

Truong Nhan Tuan: Yes, the Paracel and Spratly islands....China also presents other evidence, such as the incident of Le Loc (Temporary Head of the Asian Mission) also present at that time adding that: “From a historical perspective, the archipelagos of Xi Sa and Nan Sa (Tay Sa and Nam Sa) belonged to China since the T’ang dynasty.

Nguyen An: Le Loc is a person of China or of the DRV?

Truong Nhan Tuan: An official of the DRV."
...
"Nguyen An: Are there other evidence from the DRV presented by China regarding sovereignty?

Truong Nhan Tuan: Yes. The famous one is the diplomatic note of Pham Van Dong, written on 14/9/1958 which admits the territorial waters declared by China a few days before. The Chinese declaration was that the archipelagos of Hoang Sa, Nam Sa, and Truong Sa belonged to China.

Nguyen An: So it was an admittance of Chinese sovereignty over these islands?

Truong Nhan Tuan: In reality, there is nothing in the content of the letter that explicitly states admittance of Chinese sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly islands becaue the letter only states that Vietnam “make notes and admits the declaration of China regarding territorial waters of China” but does not mention about sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly archipelagos.

What makes the justification somewhat weak is because during the war, when the Chinese navy invaded the Paracel islands in 1974, there was no objection from the DRV. This silence becomes a weighty piece of evidence for China to claim that Vietnam had admmitted Chinese sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly archipelagos already.

Nguyen An: Based on what you just presented, is this the reason why Qin Gang (Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson) commented that Vietnam’s position regarding sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly archipelagos changed over different periods of time?

Truong Nhan Tuan: This is correct. But the legal significance is not simple. Declarations made by officials in North Vietnam at that time may be a reality. The fact that Peking presents them without protestations or justifications from Hanoi tells us that it is probably true."

Reference: [Source: Vietnamese historian's research into Paracel Islands]

Who is this person - Truong Nhan Tuan?

Meanwhile I looked up for Vietnam position on the same diplomatic document signed in 1958 and here is their official position.(a snippet from the below link)

The contents of the Diplomatic Note 1958 was very cautious, and especially it did not declare to give up Vietnam’s sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly Islands. The PM of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam understood clearly that the right to make declaration of the national sovereignty belongs to the country’s highest power institution – the National Assembly, and defending sovereignty and territorial integrity is always the top priority of the State and Vietnamese people, especially in the circumstance the Diplomatic Note was issued.

The Diplomatic Note 1958 has two clear contents: The first is the government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam noted China’s 12 nautical mile territorial waters. The second is the government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam instructed its state agencies to respect China’s 12 nautical mile territorial waters.

The Diplomatic Note 1958 did not have a single word about territory and sovereignty or name any island.


VietNamNet - Diplomatic Note 1958 with Vietnam

Also here are couple of snippets from an article below.



“Toan Tap Thien Nam Tu Chi Lo Do Thu” (The Handbook of the South’s Road Map), compiled in the 17th century by a man named Do Ba, clearly noted in the maps of Quang Ngai Prefecture in Quang Nam area that “there was a long sandbank in the middle of the sea that is called Bai Cat Vang (Golden Sand)”, and that “during the last month of every winter, the Nguyen rulers [3] send 18 boats there to collect goods, mainly jewelries, money, guns, and ammunition”.



In the book entitled “Giap Ngo Binh Nam Do” (The Map for the Pacification of the South in the Giap Ngo Year) made by duke Bui The Dat in 1774, Bai Cat Vang is also indicated as a part of Vietnam’s territory [4].



During his assignment in Southern Vietnam, scholar Le Quy Don (1726–1784) in 1776 compiled the book named “Phu Bien Tap Luc” (Miscellany on the Pacification at the Frontier) on the history, geography, and administration of Southern Vietnam under the Nguyen lords (1558–1775). In this book, Le Quy Don described that Dai Truong Sa (including the Paracel and the Spratly Islands) was under the jurisdiction of Quang Ngai Prefecture.





A Western clergyman wrote in a letter during his 1701 trip on the ship Amphitrite from France to China that: “Paracel is an archipelago of the Kingdom of An Nam” [9].

VietNamNet - Historical documents on Vietnam

The highlighted portions especially contradicts point 2 you have posted above.

 

[Martian2]

Who is this person - Truong Nhan Tuan?

He's a Vietnamese historian.

My translation of the document is superior. My version is word for word, without the political spin.

 

[Sashan]

He's a Vietnamese historian.

My translation of the document is superior. My version is word for word, without the political spin.

Mate - I am little bit lost here. Is this the one you were quoting as the translation?

Translation of Vietnamese government's diplomatic document (shown above) into English:

The Democratic Republic of Vietnam's Government agree to terms of China's public statement on 9-4-1958 about China's sea territory claim. The Democratic Republic of Vietnam Government respect it, and will direct all Agencies to absolutely respect the 12 nautical miles sea territory of China in all matters with the People's Republic of China in the East Sea.

Sincerely,

Hanoi 14-9-1958.