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So How many PAF SAAB 2000 ERIEYE were damaged in 2012?

Excuse me, but it looks like you have failed in providing a pic of four erieye to together.
Accusing me of fake Id won't change that.
I don't need to prove anything to you since this has been discussed and documented to the bone.
Pictures of both repaired aircraft are floating in this forum ....
 
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Excuse me, but it looks like you have failed in providing a pic of four erieye to together.
Accusing me of fake Id won't change that.

Whats the likelihood of PAF lining them up and taking pictures just to please indian fanboys?

PAF has stated all are recovered and more orders placed, ontop of Chinese Awac's
 
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I don't need to prove anything to you since this has been discussed and documented to the bone.
Pictures of both repaired aircraft are floating in this forum ....
I already said that while the two damaged ones were repaired but another one was written off.
 
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You are trying desperately to troll by repeating same nonsense.
The allegedly written off was shown to the SAAB who concluded that it's beyond repair hence was reported as such but later PAF engineers decided to take up the challenge and after several grueling months of work recovered the same aircraft.....now if you can't digest it, it's your problem since PAF put up all it's SAAB AWACS recently.
 
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You are trying desperately to troll by repeating same nonsense.
The allegedly written off was shown to the SAAB who concluded that it's beyond repair hence was reported as such but later PAF engineers decided to take up the challenge and after several grueling months of work recovered the same aircraft.....now if you can't digest it, it's your problem since PAF put up all it's SAAB AWACS recently.
Nope.
One of the two damaged aircraft was notified by SAAB to be serviceable and not the destroyed one.
PAF never showed all its four Erieye Together.
 
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ISLAMABAD: The February 6 admission by senior officials of the defence ministry that a Saab-2000 aircraft fitted with an Airborne Early Warning & Control System (AWACS) was totally destroyed in the August 15, 2012 terror attack on the Kamra airbase, implies that the concerned authorities had been keeping the tax payers in the dark for the past six months by claiming that it was only the nose cone of the precious aircraft which had been partially damaged and that it would be repaired by the manufacturers in Sweden.

The fact that the Kamra airbase raiders had completely destroyed one of the four Saab-2000 AWACS planes was made public for the first time by Additional Secretary Defence Rear Admiral Farrokh Ahmad during a meeting of the National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Defence on February 6, six months after the Minhas airbase at Kamra was attacked by the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan.

The meeting was chaired by President Zardari’s sister, Azra Fazal Pechuho, as the chairperson of the 18-member Committee. Responding to a question by Ayaz Ameer, one of the Standing Committee members, Rear Admiral Farrokh Ahmad conceded that a Saab-2000 AWACS which was parked at the Minhas airbase was completely destroyed by “miscreants” when the Kamra came under attack.

When asked by Ayaz Ameer to further enlighten the Committee on the issue, Secretary Defence Lt Gen (R) Asif Yaseen Malik admitted that one fourth early warning ability of the PAF was knocked out by the raiders with the ruining of one of the four Swedish-made Saab-2000 planes.

But the secretary defence did not respond to Ayaz’s query about the actual loss suffered by the national kitty due to the ruining of Saab-2000 AWACS. As The News asked PAF spokesman Group Captain Tariq Mahmood about the likely price of the Saab-2000, he sought a couple of days to collect the required information. Asked about the price of the Saab-2000 AWACS, a senior PAF official said while requesting anonymity that the perished plane was worth 130-140 million US dollars. But a highly placed defence ministry official differed with the figure, saying that the plane destroyed at Kamra was worth 250 million US dollars.

However, a senior defence ministry official said on the condition of anonymity that the Saab-2000 AWACS destroyed at Kamra was worth $250 million. Ayaz Ameer, a former army captain, estimated the price of Saab-2000 somewhere between 250 and 300 million US dollars.

It was on the night of August 15, 2012 that nine fidayeen attackers dressed in military uniforms and armed with rocket propelled grenades and suicide vests, stormed the Minhas airbase. Minhas remained under attack for two hours and finally culminated in the death of two PAF personnel and all the nine attackers who were successful in their mission of destroying one of the Saab-2000 AWACS planes.

TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan subsequently claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was carried out to avenge the killings of Baitullah Mehsud and Osama bin Laden. The fidayeen, Ehsan had declared, succeeded in achieving their targets and had delivered a lethal blow to the PAF. But neither Ehsan explained “the lethal blow” inflicted by TTP nor did the PAF deem it fit to concede the destruction of the Saab 2000 aircraft.

Following the attack, PAF spokesman Tariq Mahmood conceded that at least one of the rockets fired by the attackers hit a hangar holding PAF aircrafts. “The rocket pierced the hangar wall while shrapnel from the blast damaged one of the aircraft parked inside. But I cannot reveal the name of the craft… please wait for the inquiry report”, said the spokesman. But the finding of the inquiry, which was ordered by Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt and conducted by Air Marshal Athar Hussain Bukhari, has yet to be made public.

Hours after attack, Defence Minister Naveed Qamar said on August 15, 2012, that the death toll of the militants and the minimal damage caused to the base was clear proof of the preparedness of

Few months back one jf 17 crashed in arabian sea. that report also suppressed by paf.
 
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If the Indians are so concered about the Saabs, let's talk about their C130Js. Out of the original order of 4, one crashed, one ran into a tower while taxiing. Has that been recovered? Also what is operational rate of their Mig 29K, still 15%. How many of their brand new hawk trainers have crashed? Lastly, why did the IAF order an ultra light plane called the Virus from Czech Republic as it ab-initio trainer? Who got how much commission and how was it shared or was it just the Czech girls.
 
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Take your BS somewhere else.
All the damaged have been recovered with in house repairer.

I have posted news on this earlier.


Awacs damaged in terrorist attack repaired despite supplier’s refusal.


Mr Qayyum, who has served as chairman of the Pakistan Ordnance Factory, said the country was self-sufficient in developing defence products of good quality and met requirements of its armed forces indigenously.

“The quality of the country’s defence production is second to none in the world. It is evident from the fact that two Awacs (Airborne Warning and Control System) damaged in a terrorist attack on Kamra airbase have been locally repaired at a minimum cost though the supplier had refused to repair the aircraft because of the severity of the damage,” he said.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1230614/indias-arms-deal-with-us-a-hurdle-in-way-of-peace-says-senator
Have the repaired ones been made airworthy only or there Airborne Warning and Control has also been repaired and they are operating at the full capability.
 
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Regardless of Erieye restoration, which is indeed a commendable job done by PAF engineers, did any action taken against the security in charge of PAF Kamra base ? who ever the commander in charge that time was, and the creators of security plan, should had been court martialed due to negligence of highest proportion. What an embarrassing moment that was for PAF.
 
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This video gives the full and final answer.


You just woke ? We just discussed this last month . 2 was extensively damaged,1 was destroyed completely. PAF lied to their teeth and still haven't officially accepted that one was destroyed. Check MODP report to see for yourself, PAF has bought one SAAB to replace the destroyed one. One of the moderators broke the news here back then, @Jango He was ridiculed so much so, but finally he was vindicated when PAF started accepting that it was the case from 2015
 
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PAF is not hiding anything ... its just some fans are over enthusiastic about claims they would like to believe. One Saab 2000 was completely destroyed while two were repaired. There is an article in the Nov 2017 issue of AFM on the Mirage Rebuild Factory, that was heavily involved in the repair of two of the Saabs. The article has of course been authored by Alan Warnes and with full support of PAF.
Here is the relevant portion that I quote verbatim

"Heading up the Structures Repair Wing is Deputy Chief Engineer (DCE) Wg Cdr Rafiq Awan, 63. He’s served the PAF for 44 years (40 on the Mirage, having started work on them straight after completing his airframe training at Korangi Creek in 1974) and joined the MRF in February 1978, just three months before the first Mirage arrived. Although he retired as a squadron leader in 2006, he was re-employed as a civilian and received his current rank in 2015.
He explains: “I was involved in the recovery of the Saab 2000 Erieyes, two days after the incident [Taliban attack on PAF Base Minhas] in August 2012. Three were damaged; two aircraft were repaired but the third was beyond recovery. It was a very big task: the complete roof and internal structures were severely damaged. “Initially there was no spares support, but then our management team and the Deputy Chief of Air Staff [DCAS (Ops)], now the
Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, entered successful negotiations with Saab in 2015.” The Swedish company subsequently provided a spares support package."

That should really settle it as I would take the word of a PAF Wg Cdr over anyone here on the internet.
 
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If the Indians are so concered about the Saabs, let's talk about their C130Js. Out of the original order of 4, one crashed, one ran into a tower while taxiing. Has that been recovered? Also what is operational rate of their Mig 29K, still 15%. How many of their brand new hawk trainers have crashed? Lastly, why did the IAF order an ultra light plane called the Virus from Czech Republic as it ab-initio trainer? Who got how much commission and how was it shared or was it just the Czech girls.
They r reason is they were behind that attack .If all plane strength is back it would loss of money for them .
 
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Amazing engineering work. Speaks to the assets we have in terms of human resource. Quite possibly one of the best in the world! The arguments above aside, the AEW capability is fully operational and restored to the requisite levels. That is unprecedented!

Regardless of Erieye restoration, which is indeed a commendable job done by PAF engineers, did any action taken against the security in charge of PAF Kamra base ? who ever the commander in charge that time was, and the creators of security plan, should had been court martialed due to negligence of highest proportion. What an embarrassing moment that was for PAF.
Their careers are over in the PAF.
 
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