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Well s90 has done exactly that....and its not me who is calling Orangi a SLUM....ask UNDP for calling it a SLUM...
 
Blue oval Define slum.....Dont troll

A slum, as defined by the United Nations agency UN-HABITAT, is a run-down area of a city characterized by substandard housing and squalor and lacking in tenure security.
 
Well s90 has done exactly that....and its not me who is calling Orangi a SLUM....ask UNDP for calling it a SLUM...


There is no UNDP link only ToI is trying its level best to prove that all the bad stuff exists in Pakistan, India is a land of super naturals inhabited by angels, good so ur following the foot steps of ToI, stupids called Karachi a slum **** ****, is ToI run by ten year old kids, yesterday they were reporting a U turn by Pakistan that news clearly showed how educated ToI staff is....
And according to Definition i can tell u there a few bad houses but there is electricity & sewerage in Orangi, most of the families are middle class & they are educating their children. definition of slum dont fits in case of Orangi, seems ToI has redefined slums...
 
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And what will it prove even if pakistan got the biggest slum and we have second largets ?????

what and how that make most of my fellow indian members proud. i tell you poor of both countries are in bad condition.

people here tend to have who got the bigger dang ! talk on all the issues.

Its just a reality no matter how much we deny - number of poor people and under privileged people in both countries are very high. which need to be tackled .
 
Possibly news could be correct but we might be wrong in defining Slums. The way Orangi Town looks, I don't think one can compare it with Mumbai Slums. It's lot beautiful and not dirty.

So, we should end debate with this picture.


This shows, that Orangi is not aisa waisa but something planned and built. See Road Design.
 
Well, Organi is more of a lower class developed society and certainly the term slumdog is reserved for Indians mainly.No doubt there are many poor people in Pakistan too but nothing compared to the land of slums, India.
 
Most of the people who live in Orangi are ethnic Biharis.

Biharis are people who migrated to East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) from India during 1947 and after 1971 they migrated to Karachi, some Biharis are still living in Bangladesh.

Orangi Township is Asia’s largest slum: UNDP

SEP 6 – Karachi’s Orangi Township is the largest slum in Asia, according to a report by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).

Orangi is where most of the Biharis in particular and the East Pakistanis in general settled after migrating from the former province of East Pakistan – right before and after the fall of Dhaka and the formation of independent Bangladesh in Dec 1971.



Previously it was believed that Dharavi, which is in the heart of India’s financial capital Mumbai, was the largest slum in Asia.

Orangi sprung into a slum due to unmanaged, uncontrolled settlement by migrants from former East Pakistan. Subsequent lack of attention and resources led these disenfranchised but highly political community to muster and self-support its own survival and growth.

Todate the area remains wanting of inclusion in the city’s ambitious masterplan.


http://pkonweb.com/2009/09/07/orangi-largest-slu/
 
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Well, Organi is more of a lower class developed society and certainly the term slumdog is reserved for Indians mainly.No doubt there are many poor people in Pakistan too but nothing compared to the land of slums, India.

Morons do have some sophesticated knowledge like you... If the Land of slums can have there gdp growth around 6.5 or 7 , why not the land of genius Pakistan hasnt been able to proceed more than 2.8 gdp growth...lol.. this indicates that These slum dogs have a better standard of living than your high class... lol... In our eyes, full pakistan looks like a slum...
 
Speaking from your *** as usual, Mr Peter working at random call center :lol:.Mate, don't try to be an ***.There is no doubt that there are many poors in Pakistan but India due to large population have more poor and rich people (due to huge population and bigger country) but in true numbers wise India has far poor people then Pakistan.By the way until 2007 the Per capita earnings was equal between India and Pakistan even now the difference is not much its only a few rs and the reason it went down is due to WOT due to which many business are effected.In fact recently world bank also published report that Pakistan has gone down in poverty numbers so that is good.It does not matter what Pakistan looks like in the eyes of yindoos..I never said Pakistan is a 1st world developed country.
 
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Comparing the relative sizes of slums is like saying "I am sitting here and you are there so, therefore, I am closer to the moon."

Who cares? We both have work to do to improve our slums.
 
In 1947, at the time of Partition, many Muslim Biharis moved to what was then East Bengal adjacent to their Bihar province in eastern India. In 1971, when war broke out between West Pakistan and East Pakistan (or Bangladesh), the Biharis sided with the military of West Pakistan.

However, when East Pakistan became the independent state of Bangladesh in December 1971, the Biharis were left behind as the Pakistani army and civilians evacuated and the Bihari population in Bangladesh found themselves unwelcome in both countries. Pakistan feared a mass influx of Biharis could destabilize a fragile and culturally mixed population, and Bangladeshis scorned the Biharis for having supported and sided with the West during the war.

With little or no legal negotiation about offering the Biharis Pakistani citizenship or safe conduit back home to their native Bihar in India, the Biharis (called stranded Pakistanis by politically biased Bangladeshi politicians) have remained stateless for 33 years. The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has not addressed the plight of the Biharis. An estimated 600,000 Biharis live in 66 camps in 13 regions across Bangladesh, and an equal number have acquired Bangladeshi citizenship. In 1990, some Biharis were allowed to immigrate to Pakistan.

Pakistan has reiterated that as the successor state of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) , as well as having greater cultural and linguistic similarities with Bengalis, Bangladesh should accept the Biharis as full citizens. Pakistani politicians and government officials have refused to accept these nearly 600,000 stranded Pakistanis of Bihari origin due to inability to absorb such a large number of immigrants at the moment.

The majority of Biharis in Pakistan live in Karachi, where Orangi Town has the highest concentration of them while those in Bangladesh are allowed to live in specific camps only mostly within Dhaka city. Due to not having citizenship, most engage in odd jobs of various sorts but considerable crime and thefts has also been attributed to them.

In May 2008, a Bangladeshi court ruled that Biharis who were either minors in 1971 or born after 1971 are Bangladeshi citizens and have the right to vote.[42][43] As a result of the ruling, an estimated 150,000 of the 300,000 Biharis living in Bangladesh are eligible for Bangladeshi citizenship.[43] Although the court ruling explicitly said that the Biharis are eligible to register to vote in the December 2008 elections, the Election Commission closed its rolls in August 2008 without enrolling them.

Bihari people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Speaking from your *** as usual, Mr Peter working at random call center :lol:.Mate, don't try to be an ***.There is no doubt that there are many poors in Pakistan but India due to large population have more poor and rich people (due to huge population and bigger country) but in true numbers wise India has far poor people then Pakistan.By the way until 2007 the Per capita earnings was equal between India and Pakistan even now the difference is not much.In fact recently world bank also published report that Pakistan has gone down in poverty numbers so that is good.It does not matter what Pakistan looks like in the eyes of yindoos..I never said Pakistan is a 1st world developed country.

There, You are correct, You are still in 2007 and we are in 2009... We have more people earning More per capita Income than your small country and less people, So it does make a huge difference . And No one denys that India has Slums and poverty , besides that we show progress and growth....

What has pakistan achieved in this 60 years, do share a few achievements of your country ...
 
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