Sino-Japanese War still stings China 120 years later

[kawaraj]

Settled your historical issues with most nations does not mean your gov apology.
It means compromise.
Your GOV does not settled historical issues with your main victim CN and Korea .

You said Japan has been apologizing for 70 yeas.

But you GOV never admit NanKing massacre and comfort women publicly , you call this as "apology", I hardly think so .


Correct me if I am wrong.

Get over it, Kyle. This world is still in Jungle nature.

If you want your way, grow strong and let people repect you or in the extreame way, conquer.

It's better than whining.

 

[Kyle Sun]

How you think if Nihonjin say "PRC doesn't exist in 1945".

I will say we have inheritance of central GOV for thousands years, Viet does not.

 

[betonamujin1902]

I will say we have inheritance of central GOV for thousands years, Viet does not.

So you mean no need to say Sorry to Vietnamese people after any Chinese invasion in the history?

 

[EastSea]

We did that for reason . Vietnam was our vassal state.

one time, china was vassal state (Manchuria) and conquered by Japan, you are crying like kid.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Get over it, Kyle. This world is still in Jungle nature.

If you want your way, grow strong and let people repect you or in the extreame way, conquer.

It's better than whining.

Of course .

But I can not keep silence when Japan GOV whitewash their atrocity .

So you mean no need to say Sorry to Vietnamese people after any Chinese invasion in the history?

I am not saying that . IT is hard to say who is right .

I mean CN did attack Viet for some reason , but we also helped you to defeat France as your suzerain, right ?

No matter CN attack Viet first or VIet attack CN first. We did not kill Viet people like NanKing massacre ,and Viet did not kill CN like NK also.

We require the apology for crimes against humanity ,right ?

 

[betonamujin1902]

I am not saying that . IT is hard to say who is right .

I mean CN did attack Viet for some reason , but we also helped you to defeat France as your suzerain, right ?

No matter CN attack Viet first or VIet attack CN first. We did not kill Viet people like NanKing massacre ,and Viet did not kill CN like NK also.

We require the apology for crimes against humanity ,right ?

Nicer saying. But we all know that never Viet attack CN first.
All in our land, so there's no harm to Chinese innocent.

Read the history, you would think again this

We did not kill Viet people like NanKing massacre

The point that Japan apologized for all but they consider Nanjing massacre is made up story.

 

[Kyle Sun]

one time, china was vassal state (Manchuria) and conquered by Japan, you are crying like kid.

Yes ,we are crying like kid and you are the giant in ASIAN.

Nicer saying. But we all know that never Viet attack CN first.
All in our land, so there's no harm to Chinese innocent.

Read the history, you would think again this


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About Viet never attacked us first in ancient time , I am not sure ,need to do some research

 

[betonamujin1902]

Viet killed a lot of Chinese, Mongol soldiers inside Vietnam land to be independent country like today.

Yes ,we are crying like kid and you are the giant in ASIAN.


About Viet never attacked us first in ancient time , I am not sure ,need to do some research

 

[Kyle Sun]

The point that Japan apologized for all but they consider Nanjing massacre is made up story.

The bodies bone are still there. The 731 factory is still there.
And NK massacre is the biggest massacre but not the only one during WW2, Japanese did far more massacres.
We died about 15,000,000 civilians, it is impossible to deny this.

About NK massacre , many foreign experienced people say the truth also.

Japanese still deny this massacre ,that's the reason why we accuse them.

The point that Japan apologized for all but they consider Nanjing massacre is made up story.

The bodies bone are still there. The 731 factory is still there.
And NK massacre is the biggest massacre but not the only one during WW2, Japanese did far more massacres.
We died about 15,000,000 civilians, it is impossible to deny this.

About NK massacre , many foreign experienced people say the truth also ,not just ourselves.

Japanese still deny this massacre ,that's the reason why we accuse them.

 

[betonamujin1902]

Let go ahead to say Sorry for Tiananmen Square massacre.
I think that's the must-do thing.

Law enforcement is acceptable but killing hundreds to thousands people by calling them terrorists is not good way.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Viet killed a lot of Chinese, Mongol soldiers inside Vietnam land to be independent country like today.

As I know , Viet won 2 battles ,after that Viet GOV admitted Viet was vassal of Yuan, then Yuan GOV stop attack Viet .

Different dynasties ,same story.

 

[betonamujin1902]

As I know , Viet won 2 battles ,after that Viet GOV admitted Viet was vassal of Yuan, then Yuan GOV stop attack Viet .

Different dynasties ,same story.

1. Mongol Yuan is considered as non-Chinese by Viet ; as Chinese by Chinese.
2. 3 defeats with severe losses to Yuan sides.
3. That's diplomat tactic,
Vietnam has no interest to attack Yuan, Mongol Yuan has nothing to do but accept the fact that they cannot occupy Vietnam.
So that was.

 

[Kyle Sun]

1. Mongol Yuan is considered as non-Chinese by Viet ; as Chinese by Chinese.
2. 3 defeats with severe losses to Yuan sides.
3. That's diplomat tactic,
Vietnam has no interest to attack Yuan, Mongol Yuan has nothing to do but accept the fact that they cannot occupy Vietnam.
So that was.

May be 3 defeats , I am not sure .
Nation dignity can not be used as a chip.
Although Yuan did not occupy Viet by force but they could do great damage to your country.
That's the reason why Viet GOV used such so called diplomat tactic.

On the other hand , if Viet did not bow down ,Yuan will try again and again until they succeed .
You are not invincible ,Viet had been colonized for long time.

 

[betonamujin1902]

May be 3 defeats , I am not sure .
Nation dignity can not be used as a chip.
Although Yuan did not occupy Viet by force but they could do great damage to your country.
That's the reason why Viet GOV used such so called diplomat tactic.

On the other hand , if Viet did not bow down ,Yuan will try again and again until they succeed .
You are not invincible ,Viet had been colonized for long time.

Yuan tried attack again and again , total three times before realised that benefit / cost ratio too low.

the supply fleet led by Omar and escorted by infantry fled home along the Bạch Đằng river. As bridges and roads were destroyed and attacks were launched by Đại Việt's troops, the Mongols reached Bạch Đằng. Đại Việt's small flotilla provoked and harassed the Yuan formation to wait for the tide to recede. The Mongols cautiously engaged their opponent, fearing an ambush while missing their chance to escape the arranged trap. Soon they found their movement restricted by iron-tipped stakes protruding out of the low tide while the escape routes had been blocked by Đại Việt's large warships. Đại Việt's troops took to boarding and hand-to-hand actions with the aid of fast fire ships and missile weapons, fiercely launched the attack and broke the combat formation of the enemy. Inflicted with a sudden and strong attack, the Mongols tried to withdraw to the sea in panic. Frightened, the Mongolian troops jumped down to get to the banks where they were dealt a heavy blow by a big army led by the Trần king and Trần Hưng Đạo.
The Mongolian supply fleet was totally destroyed. Omar was captured.

At the same time, Đại Việt's Army made continuous attacks and smashed to pieces Toghan’s army on its route of withdrawal through Lạng Sơn. Toghan risked his life making a shortcut through forests to flee home.

Trần Hưng Đạo (1228–1300) was the Supreme Commander of Đại Việt during the Trần Dynasty. Born as Prince Trần Quốc Tuấn (陳國峻), he commanded the Đại Việt armies that repelled two major Mongol invasions in the 13th century.[1] His multiple victories over the mighty Mongol Yuan Dynasty under Kublai Khan are considered among the greatest military feats in world history. General Trần Hưng Đạo's military brilliance and prowess are reflected many treatises on warfare he authored. Trần Hưng Đạo is regarded as one of the most accomplished military tactician in history.

 

[Grand Historian]

Germany apologizes, bans holocaust denial, lack of right wing denying WW2 invasion of other countries.

Japan apologizes,visits the Yasukuni shrine,makes up excuses that they were "liberating" Asia,presence of right wing that denies WW2 crimes.

Tell me which one is sincere?