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Sino-Japanese Tensions Rise

Next war is the MISSILE WAR & NUKE WAR, it's the nightmare for a island country, especially military & economy double collapse.

Today China is the biggest Foreign Market for Japan, seize their 30% export. So they will fail in the battle and economy, if the war Japan to against China it will kill their economy first.

Japan export
Exports in Japan increased to 5972.13 Billion JPY in September of 2013 from 5783.71 Billion JPY in August of 2013. Exports in Japan is reported by the Ministry of Finance Japan.

Main export partners are:
China (30 percent of total exports),
United States (15 percent),
South Korea (7.5 percent),
Thailand (4.5 percent)
Germany (3 percent).
Others include: United Kingdom, Netherlands, Australia and Singapore.


Japan’s Import and Export Indicators and Statistics at a Glance (2012)
Total value of exports: US$792.9 billion
Primary exports - commodities: motor vehicles (13.6 percent); semiconductors (6.2 percent); iron and steel products (5.5 percent); auto parts (4.6 percent); plastic materials (3.5 percent); power generating machinery (3.5 percent)
Primary exports partners:
China (19.7 percent of all exports),
US (15.5 percent),
South Korea (8 percent),
Hong Kong (5.2 percent),
Thailand (4.6 percent)
Total value of imports: US$ 856.9 billion
Primary imports - commodities: petroleum (15.5 percent of all imports); liquid natural gas (5.7 percent); clothing (3.9 percent); semiconductors (3.5 percent); coal (3.5 percent); audio and visual apparatus (2.7 percent)
Primary imports partners:
China (21.5 percent of total imports),
US (8.9 percent),
Australia (6.6 percent),
Saudi Arabia (5.9 percent),
UAE (5 percent),
South Korea (4.7 percent)
 
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Lets keep the title much less provocative. However, as such history is testament that war rhetoric is good for distractions from problems facing the country. The last time Japan attacked China there was a possible economic trouble approaching with raw materials running out. Seems not too different this time around either(in a rough analogy sort of way). That being said, the Japanese may only be using rhetoric and at maximum we might see some close encounters between Drones and Aircraft with no fire exchanged. Abe may be acting quite belligerent right now but as such the only sort of conflict that the Japanese can afford is of statements and counter-statements. Neither side really wants war..

Maybe all it will be is each side making a statement of "Do not DARE cross this line, or EVIL will rain down upon you!". .
and that is pretty much it.
Of course it's really good if there is no war between these two countries. But for military we must prepare for the worst situation. For this island dispute, if it's not Japan rising it, there is dispute but it's under surface. It's Japan who wants to officially declare that this island belongs to them, then rises the dispute. This quite move worsen the situation and put it to edge of war.
 
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What on earth is Japan going to do to stop China dominating Asia?

China already has an economy 50% larger, from the same size only 3 years ago, and is now building an extra aircraft carrier, Type-095 SSNs and Type-052Ds en mass.

Japan needs to understand who the new dominant power in Asia will be soon and accept it peacefully, otherwise they will be taught a painful lesson.

You dont know how much Japan donate to bangladesh for poverty program. And china donation is known to all world. They dont given a penny to their all weather friend. You should be thankfull to them..
 
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Next war is the MISSILE WAR & NUKE WAR, it's the nightmare for a island country, especially military & economy double collapse.

Today China is the biggest Foreign Market for Japan, seize their 30% export. So they will fail in the battle and economy, if the war Japan to against China it will kill their economy first.
missile and nuke war, are you nuts? I see you are coward being afraid of a conventional confrontation.
I will place my bet on the Japanese army.

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missile and nuke war, are you nuts? I see you are coward being afraid of a conventional confrontation.
I will place my bet on the Japanese army.
HEHE ... Do u think our missiles & nukes left for who ? If Japan shot down our drone first, it will easily lead to Total War.

One self-confidence for u just believe Japan weapons more advanced & better than weapons made in China, Right? The War depned on who can produce most weapons in the shortest time and bring max damages to the enemy.

Im sure it will be nightmare for the island when they facing China missile rains.
 
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Viets are always big loser when face China.
ha ha ha..who is the loser? the fact that we are still an independent nation proves for our numerous victories over China. LOL
No, we had enough fun with you, and in contrast to Sino-Japan, the Sino-Vietnam sea tension has eased a lot. Luckily.

Mess your strength with the Japanese. They are a nation of warriors.
 
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HEHE ... Do u think our missiles & nukes left for who ? If Japan shot down our drone first, it will easily lead to Total War.

One self-confidence for u just believe Japan weapons more advanced & better than weapons made in China, Right? The War depned on who can produce most weapons in the shortest time and bring max damages to the enemy.

Im sure it will be nightmare for the island when they facing China missile rains.
total war because of some small rocks in ocean? it is not worth for, dude.
 
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total war because of some small rocks in ocean? it is not worth for, dude.
That's not about some rocks, dude.

It's our destiny conflict, some problem left over by history (since 1894) between Japan and China. Yes u know the history of East Asian, also know how many times Japanese find troubles and damages to China and other Asian neighbors.

If necessary it's our pleasure to beat Japan face-to-face. Anyway if Japan shoot first in East Sea, China will revenge.
 
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@Viet, PDF is the military forum so i provide current Japan military force VS China military force

Navy:
Today Japan Navy still has some quality advantages more than PLAN, but next 5 years after 6x 052C and 4x 052D class DDG servce in China Navy, new-gen attack & strategic submarine out, before 2020 CV-16 + type001A + type002 3x aircraft carriers fleet. The strength of PLA will overtake JMSDF.
Japan currently own 6x Aegis destroyers more than China Navy's 4x 052C DDG (170,171,150,151), and Japan own some 20,000ton LHD/LPD but China only one 60,000ton CV-16 and 4x 071class landing ship. Japan's Soryu class API submarine also better than China 039B API submarine, and Japan's anti-submarine ability(nearly 100x P3-C patrol planes) stronger than China Navy. But China own some nuclear attack submarines and nuclear strategic submarines.


Airforce:
PLAAF currently own 300x Su-27/J-11A/J-11B, 100x Su-30mkk/Su-30mkk2, 200x J-10A, 200x JH-7/JH-7A, 32x J-15. Now 800x 3-gen fighters, i ignore hundreds of China J-8IIF and J-7G 2-gen fighters. Our next-gen J-20 and J-31(maybe export) prototype testing, China 4-gen fighters on the way. CAC's new J-10B mass production out and SAC also small-lot Produce J-16 (China version Su-30mkk), numbers of PLAAF 3/4-gen fighters continue increasing.
JASDF currently own 200x F-15J/DJ, <100x F-2. Now at most 300x 3-gen fighters, their next-gen "ShinShin" still a tesing model, no flying prototype. If lucky, Japan could buy 100x F-35 at 2017-2020 ? At 2020 PLAAF will own 200x J-20 fighters, at that time they will face >1000x China 3/4-gen fighters.


Army:
PLA Army currently own >20,000 tanks & armored vehicles.
JGSDF currently own 3,000 tanks & armored vehicles.


Strategic missile (ICBM & IRBM)
PLA Second Artillery Force's DF-21/DF-21C/DF-31/DF-31A/DF-3/DF-3A/DF-4/DF-5 missiles all can cover Japan island's military bases and ports.
Japan own ZERO ground-to-ground strategic missile.


Population:
China has 1.2billion Chinese ppl
Japan has 0.2billion Japanese ppl


Economy:
China N.o2 biggest economy and N.o1 foreign currency reserve. And our debts lower than Japan.
Japan N.o3 biggest economy.

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GDP - official exchange rate 2013 Country Ranks, By Rank
3.China $8,250,000,000,000
4.Japan $5,984,000,000,000

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GDP - real growth rate(%) 2013 Country Ranks, By Rank
16.China ↑7.80
139.Japan ↑2.20

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GDP - per capita (PPP) 2013 Country Ranks, By Rank
36.Japan $36,200
120.China $9,100
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Debt - external 2013 Country Ranks, By Rank

6.Japan $2,719,000,000,000
19.China $710,700,000,000

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GDP - purchasing power parity 2013 Country Ranks, By Rank
3.China $12,380,000,000,000
5.Japan $4,617,000,000,000
 
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missile and nuke war, are you nuts? I see you are coward being afraid of a conventional confrontation.
I will place my bet on the Japanese army.
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I place my bet on the China Army (PLA Army).;)
The War depned on who can produce most weapons in the shortest time and bring max damages to the enemy.

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Tension is good. Let's see some action. It is one big poker game anyway.

http://news.yahoo.com/china-coastguard-ups-pressure-japan-island-spat-045814002.html

China coastguard keeps heat on Japan in island row
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Tokyo (AFP) - China on Monday kept up the pressure on Japan over the disputed Senkaku islands, sending its coastguard to the area following Beijing's weekend mention of "war" after Tokyo reportedly readied to down its drones.

Four Chinese coastguard vessels sailed into the territorial waters of the islands -- which Beijing calls the Diaoyus -- on Monday morning, the Japanese coastguard said, where they remained for about two hours.

The manoeuvre came days after China, in one of its strongest statements so far in an increasingly acrimonious spat over the islands, said if Japan fired on its unmanned aircraft it "would constitute a serious provocation, an act of war of sorts".

"We would have to take firm countermeasures, and all consequences would be the responsibility of the side that caused the provocation," China's defence ministry said.

Those comments, published Saturday, came after Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe invoked support in Asia for a robust response to what he said was Beijing's attempt to "change the status quo by force".
They also followed reports that Abe had given the okay to a plan to shoot down drones entering Japanese airspace if they did not heed warnings to leave.

On Sunday, he told troops the "security environment surrounding Japan is becoming increasingly severe".

"You will have to completely rid yourselves of the conventional notion that just the existence of a defence force could act as a deterrent."

Reports said that Japan scrambled fighter jets on Sunday for the third consecutive day, as Chinese military aircraft overflew a strait between two Okinawan islands. They did not enter Japanese airspace.

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Chinese ships have sailed into the waters around the Senkakus dozens of times since Japan nationalised three of the islands in September 2012. Each time, they trade warnings and claims of sovereignty with their Japanese opposite numbers.

Customarily, they stay for a few hours and then move out into the contiguous zone, a band that, under international definitions, lies outside the 12-nautical-mile territorial waters.

Tokyo's top government spokesman, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga, said Monday: "it is extremely regrettable that intrusions into our territorial waters occur frequently."

Japan annexed what it says were the unclaimed islands in 1895. It says China's assertion of ownership only came after the discovery of resources in the seabed at the close of the 1960s.

Beijing maintains that the islands have been its territory for hundreds of years and were illegally snatched by Tokyo at the start of an acquisitive drive across Asia that culminated in World War II.

The weekend's friction, which came as Japan readied to hold a huge drill intended to sharpen the skills of 34,000 troops in protecting remote islands, further fuelled fears that Asia's two largest economies are skirting dangerously close to conflict.

Observers say the presence of so much hardware in the area increases the risk of an armed confrontation, warning that a slip by a crew member on either side could quickly escalate.
 
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It's really funny to see people without a clue jump up and down and banging wardrum all along.

I want to ask this question, WHAT DO YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT WAR??

Go back and start the process?? Why don't you try go back and eat dirt first?? If you cannot support your own country in peacetime, you will only bug your tail and run on the other direction come war.

People here are really funny, you know, real war cannot just hate other people to death, if you want your enemy dead, you have to kill him yourselves. The catch is, you can kill him, but he can kill you too.

Stop trying to spread war talk when you are trying to ask somebody to fight for you, tell me if you come up with an enlistment notice then

Otherwise please shut the hell up
 
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Who give a **** what the Vietnamese are saying. A bunch of insignificant bugs will only irritate and distract our focus. I'm READY to rumble with the Japanese. Let go!
 
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