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A former Japanese diplomat has accused the United States of manipulating Japan since the second world war in order to “eliminate” prime ministers who sought to develop better relations with Beijing.

Ukeru Magosaki, who also served as the head of the Foreign Ministry’s Intelligence and Analysis Bureau, has recently written a book that has soared to the top of Japan’s bestseller lists.

The book - Sengoshi no Shotai (The Truth Behind Post-war History) – states that the US will never remove its military bases from Japanese territory, no matter how much public outcry there is.


Magosaki also said he believes that certain factions in the US would even like to see Japan develop nuclear weapons.(to fight Uncle Sam’s war).

“In the book, I divide Japanese leaders into two groups; those who have wanted to pursue independent foreign policies and those who have just followed US instructions and policies,” Magosaki said in Tokyo yesterday.

“Those in the first group were not welcomed by the US government and were usually quickly eliminated from the post of prime minister.”

This was not achieved directly by Washington, he claimed, but through subtle influence over key politicians, the media, government officials and senior executives of major companies.

A spokeswoman for the US embassy in Tokyo declined to comment on the allegations made in Magosaki’s book.

To achieve its control of Japan’s political processes, Washington has interfered with media coverage, encouraged opposition parties, twisted public opinion and even brought down governments by “eliminating” key cabinet members, Magosaki claims.

Two of the Japanese politicians who he claims have been hounded for their independent thoughts have been Yukio Hatoyama, who lasted less then nine months as prime minister until June 2010, and Ichiro Ozawa, whose reputation has been tarnished by a financial scandal and a legal case.

Magosaki believes that had Hatoyama remained in power, the government would not be making moves to restart Japan’s nuclear reactors – shut down in the aftermath of the disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant – and would not have gone ahead with raising the consumption tax or deploying US military Osprey aircraft to Okinawa.

These issues, along with the ongoing debate over the Diaoyu-Senkaku islands and the Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade discussions, are all closely connected with Washington’s global geopolitical interests, Magosaki said.

The US was “encouraging politicians like [national policy minister Seiji] Maehara to take action against China as that has a benefit for the US,” he said.

And while business interests in the US may want closer co-operation with China, the US government was pursuing what Magosaki termed an “offshore balancing strategy” under which neighbouring nations - he named South Korea, the Philippines, Vietnam and Japan – are encouraged to pursue actions to constrain China and its growing regional influence.

“The Senkaku [Diaoyu] issue is part of that strategy,” he said.

“Today, in the US, there are some people who want Japan to have a nuclear bomb.

“This is related to balancing strategy, to counter China by using Japan’s military power.

“From China’s point of view, Yoshihiko Noda has been the worst prime minister they could have had and they feel there can be no trust” between the two governments, Magosaki said. “That means that anyone who replaces him will be welcome.”

The 4th Media » A Japanese Ex-diplomat Accuses the Sino-Japanese Rift Part of US Agenda: The Truth Behind the Post-war History
 
Japan PM signals election can wait, defies opposition


TOKYO -- Japan's Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda made clear on Monday he was in no rush to go to the polls, speaking of the risk of a “political vacuum” in a speech likely to anger an opposition that has urged him to keep a promise to call an election soon.

The ruling Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ) swept to power in 2009 and holds a slim majority in the powerful lower house of parliament, but the opposition's domination of the upper house has it allowed it to block crucial budget deficit funding legislation.

The opposition Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) is using the issue to press Noda into calling an early election, at a time when opinion polls show Noda is likely to lose any vote.

But the prime minister showed no sign of being cowed when he delivered a policy speech at the opening of an extra parliament session called primarily to pass a bill needed to fund a 38.3-trillion-yen (US$474 billion) deficit.

“In order to fulfill my responsibility for tomorrow, I cannot abandon jobs halfway to their completion,” Noda told the lower house. “We shouldn't create at will a political vacuum that would cause policies to stall.”

Speaking on the eve of a review of monetary policy by the Bank of Japan (BOJ), Noda also vowed to work with the central bank more closely to support the economy, using terms employed in the past to pressure the central bank into easing policy.

Noda's cabinet approved a US$5.3 billion fiscal stimulus plan last week that economists said was too small to have much impact, and piled more pressure on the BOJ, which is expected to boost monetary stimulus steps at Tuesday's meeting.

Unless Noda wins opposition backing for the funding bill Japan's government could run out of money by the end of November, but there were scant signs that the opposition was ready to cooperate.

Noda had promised in August to call an election “soon” in order to secure opposition votes for another key piece of legislation — his signature sales tax increase plan designed to shore up state finances saddled by swelling social security costs.

But he has been coy on exactly when he will call the election for the lower house, which must be held by August next year.

Analysts believe he is unlikely to do so in the near future given his party's poor ratings in opinion polls.

“Noda wants to delay the day of reckoning as long as possible,” said political commentator Harumi Arima. “Who would call an election now knowing that over 100 parliament seats would be lost, putting the party on the brink of collapse?”

Noda will wait until next summer to hold general elections together with upper house polls due in July, Arima added.

continue: Japan PM signals election can wait, defies opposition - The China Post
 
Yes yes our strategy was to encourage Japan to invade China to break its good relationship during the early 20th century. What a moron. China and Japan has been at its throat for so long you don't need Uncle Sam to do anything to get two Asian nations to hate each other. Especially right now. Chinese not buying Japanese branded products is a good example.
 
I support Japanese politicians like Yukio Hatoyama and Shintaro Ishihara.
They are reasonable people who are for their country.

Japan should have good relations with China. Soon, China is going to have a larger economy than the USA by 2017, the Islamic world deeply despises the USA.

Even European countries like France and Germany don't like the USA.
 
Yes yes our strategy was to encourage Japan to invade China to break its good relationship during the early 20th century. What a moron. China and Japan has been at its throat for so long you don't need Uncle Sam to do anything to get two Asian nations to hate each other. Especially right now. Chinese not buying Japanese branded products is a good example.


Actually Japan was getting real cozy to the the Chinese until Abe's visit to the war shine 2 years ago and Noda's recently handling of Diaoyu. At the time I though China and Japan together would do good for all the nations in this area.
 
The US has encouraged Japanese right wingers to keep China-Japan ties destabilised.
The US benefits from ANY friction in Asia.

The US uses media, NGOs, bribed politicians, bribed government officials and corporate CEOs to achieve American geopolitical interests.
Xi Jinping is a personal friend of former US treasury secretary Hank Paulson. The US is using this tactic on China too.

Japan and China recently signed a direct currency trade between our countries to bypass the dollar, but now with the island dispute it's highly unlikely people will use the direct trading of yuan-yen.

The US is clearly trying to annoy china by encouraging our neighbours like Japan, Philippines, Vietnam, etc to join a coalition to contain china. The US knows the island issues are extremely sensitive to China so the yanks are using this issue to cause friction to their own geopolitical advantage.

TPP is the economic part of the china containing strategy.
The Asia 'pivot' is the military aspect of it.

The US is the puppet master behind all these island disputes.

The American strategic think tanks have been planning a China containing strategy for a long time.
It is in America's best interest to keep friction between China and the US!
 
I just want to know how exactly the United State benefit from the island dispute. Well, i can see it's bad to encourage people to do crazy stuff, but the most crazy of all is you encourage people to duke it out without any advantage in return.
 
I support Japanese politicians like Yukio Hatoyama and Shintaro Ishihara.
They are reasonable people who are for their country.

Japan should have good relations with China. Soon, China is going to have a larger economy than the USA by 2017, the Islamic world deeply despises the USA.

Even European countries like France and Germany don't like the USA.

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Yukio Hatoyama is okay!

But not the following extreme right winger:

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Shintaro Ishihara

Proposal to buy the Diaoyu Islands (Senkaku Islands)

On 15 April 2012, Ishihara made a speech in Washington, USA, publicly stating his desire for Tokyo to purchase the Diaoyu (or Senkaku) Islands on behalf of Japan in an attempt to end the territorial dispute between China and Japan, causing uproars in Chinese society and increasing tension between the governments of China and Japan.

Shintaro Ishihara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The US would surely benefit if Sino-Japanese relation is getting strained. This way Chinese consumers would stop buying Japanese products and might choose American brands. The direct yuan-yen exchange deal would fall apart due to the ongoing dispute. The Diaoyu island issue is literally an invitation for the US navy to conduct training missions with Japan, giving the US an excuse to meddle with the issue. Japan's future economy isn't looking too bright not only because of the Diaoyu island issue but due the the large population decline and extremely low birth rate, the population has been aging for years. With 3 to 4 tectonic plates underneath them natural disasters is not a rare phenomenon causing major economic loses see the Kobe earthquake and Fukushima. Still Japan has no other choice but to continue the use of nuclear energy despite protests.

Just look at the American presidential election, business people bribe officials too so when the candidate win they will get benefits later on. Don't be surprised if American politicians bribe the right wingers to stir up Diaoyu dispute. China is Japan's biggest trading partner so why would they suddenly want to "purchase" the islands when trade relations is very cozy especially right after making the deal of direct currency trading without the US$?
 
Same is with Pakistan, it is always manipulated by the external powers to be anti-India.
 
The US has encouraged Japanese right wingers to keep China-Japan ties destabilised.
The US benefits from ANY friction in Asia.

The US uses media, NGOs, bribed politicians, bribed government officials and corporate CEOs to achieve American geopolitical interests.
Xi Jinping is a personal friend of former US treasury secretary Hank Paulson. The US is using this tactic on China too.

Japan and China recently signed a direct currency trade between our countries to bypass the dollar, but now with the island dispute it's highly unlikely people will use the direct trading of yuan-yen.

The US is clearly trying to annoy china by encouraging our neighbours like Japan, Philippines, Vietnam, etc to join a coalition to contain china. The US knows the island issues are extremely sensitive to China so the yanks are using this issue to cause friction to their own geopolitical advantage.

TPP is the economic part of the china containing strategy.
The Asia 'pivot' is the military aspect of it.

The US is the puppet master behind all these island disputes.

The American strategic think tanks have been planning a China containing strategy for a long time.
It is in America's best interest to keep friction between China and the US!


Well said buddy, but I think you mean: It is in America's best interest to keep friction between China and every one of its neighbors!
 
Think again, why the US has friends and allies on over the world, and not China.
It is not only the Americans to blame.
 
Think again, why the US has friends and allies on over the world, and not China.
It is not only the Americans to blame.


Simple:

1) The US has been the richest country for almost a whole century

2) with the largest consumer market

3) and strongest military.

4) As a leader of WWII victors

5) Glorify by western media propaganda and

6) indeed has soft power as well

7) A democracy who indeed had a few good leaders and paternalist foreign policies until recent decades.

8) An untouched peaceful landmass literally litter with gold entices people's dreams of migrating from their crowded, dirty and dirt poor countries.

9) A great constitution supposedly guarantee personal freedom and liberty.

Indeed America was blessed and enriched by its physical isolation in which everyone else was war torn. She too was benefited greatly, because of all the above, the creams of the crops migrations.

Keep it up America! Don't let those warmongering few destroy your dream and the dreams of others who look up to you!
 
Simple:

1) The US has been the richest country for almost a whole century

2) with the largest consumer market

3) and strongest military.

4) As a leader of WWII victors

5) Glorify by western media propaganda and

6) indeed has soft power as well

7) A democracy who indeed had a few good leaders and paternalist foreign policies until recent decades.

8) An untouched peaceful landmass literally litter with gold entices people's dreams of migrating from their crowded, dirty and dirt poor countries.

9) A great constitution supposedly guarantee personal freedom and liberty.

Indeed America was blessed and enriched by its physical isolation in which everyone else was war torn. She too was benefited greatly, because of all the above, the creams of the crops migrations.

Keep it up America! Don't let those warmongering few destroy your dream and the dreams of others who look up to you!



Think again!

China fulfills many of your points: #1, #2, #3, #4, #6, #8 and the potential to meet the rest.
In reality, China itself is the main foe! It makes the US too easy to make friends and allies.

As soon as China realises it, the sooner it will become a superpower.
 
Think again!

China fulfills many of your points: #1, #2, #3, #4, #6, #8 and the potential to meet the rest.
In reality, China itself is the main foe! It makes the US too easy to make friends and allies.

As soon as China realises it, the sooner it will become a superpower.


Well I don't think China is a busy body like the US and is pragmatic enough to care too much for those artificial glories. She likes to mind her own business, not interfere with others' and since she's still relative poor development from within in the top priority. But I'll tell you one thing though, because of past experiences, she'll fight for every inch of land that belongs to her.

America is on a down trend, those warmongering leaders, soon or later, are going to bankrupt the nation and will lose many friends while they're at it. http://www.defence.pk/forums/americas/216209-us-empires-changing-face-masks-old-ambitions.html
 

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