‘Sinking A US Aircraft Carrier’ – Beijing Conducts Massive Military Drills In South China Sea To Ward-Off US Navy

[hualushui]

Yet another immature " sink a US Carrier" thread. No Carrier, US or Chinese is invincible. Does this poster even realize that once there is an attack on a USN Carrier, that country has just declared open war? What do you think the US will do say in the hours or days after that? Do you think there will be no retaliation?? war between two nuclear powers will escalate quickly. Think about that before you post another jingoistic, childish thread, will ya? It is abundantly clear you have never seen combat in your life, kiddo

 

[OldTwilight]

Yet another immature " sink a US Carrier" thread. No Carrier, US or Chinese is invincible. Does this poster even realize that once there is an attack on a USN Carrier, that country has just declared open war? What do you think the US will do say in the hours or days after that? Do you think there will be no retaliation?? war between two nuclear powers will escalate quickly. Think about that before you post another jingoistic, childish thread, will ya? It is abundantly clear you have never seen combat in your life, kiddo

well , if your Carrier is used to attack another country military or civilian assets , then it it legitimate military target ...

Did you think others will sit ideal and lets USA use its Aircraft carrier to bomb them ?

 

[925boy]

It is in fact not difficult to sink an Aircraft Carrier.

Just four direct missile hits is all it takes.

But its hard these days, from the Persian Gulf to the South China sea, to do such, because the Aircraft Carriers keep HIDING away, aka staying 800-1000km away from adversaries shore lines, so they are hiding away, which makes hitting them actually hard. LMAO, but its the fact.

 

[gambit]

well , if your Carrier is used to attack another country military or civilian assets , then it it legitimate military target ...

Did you think others will sit ideal and lets USA use its Aircraft carrier to bomb them ?

He did not say the aircraft carrier is an illegal target. You have a reading comprehension problem.

If you want to attack a US aircraft carrier, do so. But understand that there are consequences that you will not like.

 

[OldTwilight]

He did not say the aircraft carrier is an illegal target. You have a reading comprehension problem.

If you want to attack a US aircraft carrier, do so. But understand that there are consequences that you will not like.

ah , really ? Is there any boundary for you arrogance !?

do you think you are free to use your Aircraft carrier to kill others but other shouldn't try to kill you guys in war !?

if you want to bring NUKE in equation , then its just confirm my long standing statement : " We should have nukes "

and if you are talking about China and Russia , well , just start nuclear war ... from math and statistics , chance of Chinese with more population than USA and Russians with more nukes and land mass than USA to outlast USA in nuclear war is much bigger ...

 

[gambit]

ah , really ? Is there any boundary for you arrogance !?

None.

do you think you are free to use your Aircraft carrier to kill others but other shouldn't try to kill you guys in war !?

You STILL have a reading comprehension problem. Of course anyone can try to kill a US aircraft carrier. I never said the ship is an illegal target. I just said there WILL be dire consequences for anyone who even tried.

if you want to bring NUKE in equation , then its just confirm my long standing statement : " We should have nukes "

and if you are talking about China and Russia , well , just start nuclear war ... from math and statistics , chance of Chinese with more population than USA and Russians with more nukes and land mass than USA to outlast USA in nuclear war is much bigger ...

Never said anything about nukes.

 

[TexasJohn]

You better go educate yourself.

China much more likely to have the only readily available usable H bomb .

Build to the YuMing configuration requiring very little maintenance.
Muricans do their H bombs to the Ulam Teller configuration needing lots of maintenances.

Each warhead needs to have about 200 milligrams of fresh tritium added every year. Here’s a pic showing W80s having their gas changed.

Any time you want to rock and roll with China and think your carriers all that great, just do that.

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• Mar 24, 2022
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https://www.herecomeschina.com/chin...e-are-bigger-and-more-powerful-than-americas/


Can China’s Military Beat America’s? Yes! China’s military beat America’s military in 1951 and would beat it much worse in 2021.


In December, 1944, the US Air force firebombed Wuhan, killed forty-thousand civilians and set fires that burned for three days and nights. The following year President Truman ordered Mark-4 nuclear capsules transferred to the Ninth Bomber Group and signed an order to use them on China stating, “I am prepared to authorize the use of atomic weapons in order to achieve peace in Korea”. In 1949, Mao warned[1] colleagues that China would remain ‘insecure, unconsolidated, and delegitimized’ until it transformed both itself and the imperial world order.

In 1951, in Operation Hudson Harbor, B-29s bombed coastal Dandong, fighters strafed civilians in several Chinese cities, buzzed coastal Shantou, and launched biological warfare[2] on China. In 1953 President Eisenhower repeated Truman’s nuclear threat and in 1955 added, “In any combat where these things can be used on strictly military targets and for strictly military purposes, I see no reason why they shouldn’t be used just exactly as you would use a bullet or anything else”. In 1957, Eisenhower deployed Matador nuclear cruise missiles to Taiwan and, in 1958, ordered the deployment to Jinmen of howitzers capable of firing nuclear shells, ordering that they be made visible to the Chinese. Can China’s Military Beat America’s? Yes.

In 1992, the US Navy held a Chinese cargo vessel, the Yinhe, at gunpoint in international waters for three weeks, claiming she was carrying contraband (she wasn’t). Two years later President Clinton sent the most powerful fleet ever assembled through the Taiwan Strait and in 1998 dropped five precision bombs on China’s Belgrade embassy, killing three diplomats and seriously wounding twenty (CIA director George Tenet[4] told Congress, “It was the only target we nominated”). In 2014 a US Navy article[5] proposed laying mines off China’s coast and destroying her maritime lines of communication while sending special forces to arm minorities in Xinjiang and Tibet. In 2017 the Air Force reassured Congress of its willingness to launch nuclear attacks and in 2018 the Navy practiced blocking the Malacca Strait to cut off oil to China.

But by then, says defense analyst Michael Thim[6], such gestures were meaningless, “Even in 1996 China’s Navy already had sufficient capabilities in place such that sending Carrier Strike Groups into the Taiwan Strait would be suicidal. The situation has only become more challenging for the Navy in recent years, not because the PLAN [Peoples Liberation Army Navy] has acquired an aircraft carrier of its own, but because China has greatly enhanced and modernized its existing anti-access/area-denial capabilities”.

Maritime Militia​

The Maritime Militia, the first line of defense, counts one-hundred eighty-thousand ocean-going fishing boats and four thousand merchant[7] freighters, some towing sonar detectors, crewed by a million experienced sailors transmitting detailed information around the clock on every warship afloat. Their intelligence goes to shore bases that fuse their reports with automated transmissions from Beidou satellites and forward the data to specialists operating ‘vessel management platforms,’ collating, formatting, and sending actionable information up the PLAN command chain. Ashore, eight million coastal reservists train constantly in seamanship, emergency ship repairs, anti-air missile defense, and light weapons and naval sabotage while shipyards launch one new warship every month. The PLAN’s battle fleet now outnumbers the US Navy’s and its differences are fascinating.

Missile Patrol Fleet​

Commander Yang Yi, the youngest (and first female) Chief Designer in naval history, designed a fleet of eighty Type 022 missile patrol boats. Four hundred feet long, with a range of three-hundred miles, they carry eight C-802 anti-ship missiles tipped with with 500lb. warheads that travel fifteen feet above the surface at 650 mph to targets a hundred miles away (one disabled an Israeli warship off Lebanon’s coast in 2006). Four of her little boats, says Commander Yang, can cover the entire Taiwan Strait while sheltering behind China’s coastal islands.

Frigates​

Supporting the patrol boats are thirty Type 056 frigates with a range of 2,500 miles, each armed with YJ-83 anti-ship missiles and six torpedo tubes and protected by eight SAM launchers. One frigate can sink Taiwan’s entire navy without coming within range of its American-supplied weapons. Behind the frigates are twenty Type 052D Arleigh Burke–class destroyers. Their sixty-four missile tubes fire unique Yu-8 anti-submarine missiles that fly twenty miles then release torpedoes into the water near unsuspecting targets.

Cruisers​

The PLAN’s Type 055 cruisers, the world’s most powerful surface combatants, each carry one-hundred twenty-eight missile tubes armed with surface-to-air, anti-ship, land-attack and antisubmarine missiles. Below them, seventy nuclear and conventional submarines carry YJ-12 anti-ship cruise missiles and wake-homing torpedoes that deliver five-hundred pound warheads at sixty mph from fifteen miles away.

Boomers​

The nuclear subs have JL-3 missiles that can strike targets in the United States without leaving Chinese waters. Their arsenal includes CM-401 high-supersonic ballistic missiles designed for rapid precision strikes against medium-size ships, naval task forces and offshore facilities within two hundred miles. To destroy distant bases like Guam the CJ-10, a subsonic missile carries a half ton payload with a forty foot radius of accuracy for two-thousand miles.

The greatest threat to hostile fleets was born when the US Navy invited a Chinese admiral to visit the carrier Nimitz and, upon his return, he told colleagues, “I’ve just seen the world’s biggest target. If we can’t hit an aircraft carrier we can’t hit anything”.

Carrier Killers​

Thrifty engineers attached a new guidance system to existing, million-dollar rockets and created a unique weapon, the DF-21D anti-ship, ballistic ‘carrier killer’. It carries a half-ton warhead one thousand miles into the stratosphere then falls vertically, at 7,500 mph, onto $12 billion aircraft carriers. US Navy analysts say it can destroy a carrier in one strike and that there is currently no defense against it. Its sibling, the DF-26D, carries twice twice the payload twice as far.

“We are at a disadvantage with regard to China today in the sense that China’s ground-based ballistic missiles threaten our basing and our ships in the Western Pacific,” Admiral Harry Harris told the US Senate in 2018. The following year Robert Haddick warned, “China’s anti-ship missile capability exceeds America’s in terms of range, speed, and sensor performance,” and Captain James Fanell[8] added, “We know that China has the most advanced ballistic missile force in the world. They have the capacity to overwhelm the defensive systems we are pursuing”.

The last US carrier to pass through the Taiwan Strait was the USS Kitty Hawk in 2007. Navy officers say they risk defeat in a serious conflict off China’s coast and avoid provoking the PLAN in the ‘Three Seas,’ the South China, East China, and Yellow Seas. Can China’s Military Beat America’s? Yes.

Air Force​

The Rand Corporation says that, for conflicts close to the mainland or Taiwan, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force, PLAAF, can deploy more fifth generation J-20 fighters than the US. The J-20 cost half as much, flies twice as far and carries twice the payload of America’s F-35C or the F-22 Raptor. Its YJ-12 anti-ship cruise missiles travel two hundred miles and deliver thousand-pound warheads at supersonic speed in a corkscrew trajectory. The US Navy says a single strike will render any vessel inoperable and warned that, even against alerted warships, one-third of missiles score hits.

The J-20 also carries the specialized PLA-15 air-to-air missile. Propelled by novel dual pulse rocket motors on a semi-ballistic trajectory, it homes on AWACS and airborne tankers loitering behind battle lines. General Herbert Carlisle, who warned Congress that his two hundred F-22 Raptors carry six missiles each while the more numerous J-20s carry twelve, added, “Look at the PLA-15, at the range of that weapon. How do we counter that?” The PLA-15’s smaller sibling, the PLA-10, is no less deadly, says ISIS airpower specialist Douglas Barrie, “For the notional Western combat aircraft pilot, there is no obvious respite to be found in keeping beyond visual range of the PLA-10[9]. The PLAAF will be able to mount an increasingly credible challenge and at engagement ranges against some targets that would previously have been considered safe. As one former US AF tanker pilot drily noted, ‘That’s aimed right at me.’”

Because they would be easy prey for the PLA-15, the US Air Force canceled its E-8C AWACS recapitalization program and, concerned for the safety of its planes, the Pentagon withdrew its entire strategic bomber fleet from Guam in 2020.

Satellites​

Hyperspectral detection satellites oversee the Western Pacific battlespace and airborne lasers detect waves and temperature variations generated by moving targets. The West Pacific Surveillance and Targeting satellite, along with fifteen Yaogan-30 satellites in low-earth orbit, operating as triplets positioned in close proximity, geo-locate military platforms by measuring the angular or time difference of arrival of their intercepted electromagnetic signals. Below them, the Caihong-T4, a massive, solar-powered drone, loiters for months at a cloudless altitude of sixty-five thousand feet, while below, the fifteen-ton, one-hundred fifty-foot wingspan Divine Eagle High Altitude Stealth-Hunting Drone reads electronic signals from aircraft long before they approach their targets. Below the drones AWACS, whose solid-state detectors have twice the range of the US AWACS rotating domes, relay targeting information to Russian-built S-400 anti-aircraft/anti-missile batteries. Jin Canrong, the PRC’s senior defense policy advisor, says China has deployed weapons that can destroy in minutes every military base in its region, see all stealth bombers and submarines, and take out every aircraft carrier within two thousand miles of shore. Can China’s Military Beat America’s? Yes.

Missiles​

The DF-41 ICBM is a three-stage, solid-fuel device with a twelve-thousand mile range and a top speed of twenty-thousand mph. Road-mobile, it launches on four minutes’ warning and is faster, longer ranged and delivers ten independently targetable nuclear warheads.

The DF-ZF Hypersonic Glide Vehicle (whose significance Russian Defense Minister Dmitry Rogozin compared to the first atom bomb) is just beginning its life cycle[10]. Launched sixty miles above the earth from a missile traveling at sixteen-thousand mph, the DF-ZF rides its own supersonic shockwave to the target. Says RAND, “With the ability to fly at unpredictable trajectories, these missiles will hold extremely large areas at risk throughout much of their flight,” and a Congressional report concludes, “The very high speeds of these weapons combined with their maneuverability and ability to travel at lower, radar-evading altitudes would make them far less vulnerable to current defenses than existing missiles”.

In real wars, boots on the ground determine final outcomes and the PLA is as unconventional as its weapons. Combat forces elect their NCOs and all two-million soldiers receive more political education than the rest of the world’s soldiers combined, as historian William Hinton explains, “From its inception the Army has been led by the Party and has never played a purely military role. On the contrary, Army cadres have always played a leading political role”. Can China’s Military Beat America’s? Yes.

The Red Army​

As Mao explained, “The Red Army fights not merely for the sake of fighting but in order to conduct propaganda, xuānchuán, among the people, organize, arm and help them establish revolutionary political power. Without these objectives, fighting loses its meaning and the Red Army loses its reason for existence”. Xiaoming Zhang[11] adds, “Under the influence of Confucian philosophy, the concept of the just or righteous war was prevalent throughout Chinese society so, unlike Western militaries which depend on professional ethics and training to ensure that soldiers’ perform their duties in war, the PLA opted for political indoctrination and attempted to make troops understand why a war must be fought and how it would matter to them”.

By coordinating its military, legal, diplomatic, and economic assets simultaneously, China is exemplifying Correlli Barnett’s[12] dictum: “The power of a nation-state by no means consists only in its armed forces, but also in its economic and technological resources; in the dexterity, foresight and resolution with which its foreign policy is conducted; in the efficiency of its social and political organization. It consists most of all in the nation itself: the people; their skills, energy, ambition, discipline, initiative; their beliefs, myths and illusions. And it consists, further, in the way all these factors are related to one another. Moreover, national power has to be considered not only in itself, in its absolute extent, but relative to the state’s foreign or imperial obligations; it has to be considered relative to the power of other states”.

Defense Budget​

China’s military budget will reach parity with America’s in 2028, and seventy years of Chinese anxiety and American hegemony will, with luck, come to a peaceful end.

China’s Military Power May Surpass the US’s Faster Than You …https://www.businessinsider.com › chinas-military-powe…

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• Mar 25, 2022
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Not static either.

On rails so the target can move fast to make it more interesting to fire down a warhead onto moving target

Just spotted by satellite: full-scale mock-up of a US aircraft carrier in a desert in NW China.​

/r/ALL



Payload of a ton via DF26, or half ton via DF21D is a lot of throw weight.

So likely not just a warhead, but a series of MARVed warheads as well.

So that the carrier be accompanied by Tico or Burkes in a great team sending off

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China know explicitly every ship every second and where they are heading once they west of the 3rd Island Chain.

So many sonar buoys on sea floor and satellites above and HALE drones Divine Eagle and Soaring Dragon and all in communication with the many super computers will know every ship speed and direction and heading every second.

And in addition to the hundred ++ DF21D and DF26, there are also thousands of Mach 3s AShCMs to bring good news in unison to the carriers and Ticos and Burkes.

USA want to have war with China?

USA go prepare another 10 Arlingtons first
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Those numbers of DFs and YJs I read from elsewhere before.

Too many things to remember and anyway, military matters not on my top list of interest.

Only got dragged into that when I started to read how USA treat China and think China is a punch bag and piece of cake to kick sand into the face.

Thank you for confirming DFs are numbered in hundreds, 250 by your count. You enough of an authority for me , and others here, to accept those numbers.

I admit to my gross error in thinking DFs are in the 100++


Excuse my saying thousands of supersonic hypersonic AShCMs.

Should say thousands of AShCMs which include supersonic hypersonics.

And likely some not made known to anyone as yet.

List of ships of the People's Liberation Army Navy - Wikipedia​

en.wikipedia.org
Even the small type 22 missile boats of 220tons can load and fire 8 AShMs . And there are at least 100 of them, taking type 056 corvette into somewhat consideration.

The 1500 ton corvettes can carry more than 8 AShCMs.

Missile Patrol Fleet​

Commander Yang Yi, the youngest (and first female) Chief Designer in naval history, designed a fleet of eighty Type 022 missile patrol boats. Four hundred feet long, with a range of three-hundred miles, they carry eight C-802 anti-ship missiles tipped with with 500lb. warheads that travel fifteen feet above the surface at 650 mph to targets a hundred miles away (one disabled an Israeli warship off Lebanon’s coast in 2006). Four of her little boats, says Commander Yang, can cover the entire Taiwan Strait while sheltering behind China’s coastal islands.

Or do you think only type 55 and type 52 can fire those AShCMs and not other Chinese Naval and air and land assets?

Just like the 5000 km China underground GREAT WALL, contain only piddling 200++ nukes?

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Talking about tracking, this video might amuse folks here

https://twitter.com/x/status/1038033917020786689

See how a Chinese satellite videoed and tracked a rocket taking off and then tracking that rocket.

Remember the satellite was moving and had to move or that not be a satellite. Knowing and tracking via radar will be so much easier than tracking and focusing via camera

Which then be messaged to supercomputer to direct the DF21Ds and DF 26 and the thousands of supersonic hypersonic AShCMs to send the good news to US carriers and whatever they got.

So USA can act macho macho strutting about in phony FONOPs .

And all on board knowing they living on borrowed time.

And you want to take that further, you be ready to be part of the pools of green and multi color seas of glass.







How many Murican H Bombs can go kaboom immediately? Not many.

So if the Chinese are so good, How come you have not tried to sink a carrier? heck we send destroyers through South China sea all the time on Freedom of Navigation voyages! I don't see any Chinese missiles hitting them. You know the answer why. Both of us do. So go ahead and puff up your chest and toot your horn. We will continue to sail or fly through the " Nine-line-dash" or whatever the heck you want to call it! The entire sea is not your property just because you say, "All of the South China sea is belong to us"

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

But its hard these days, from the Persian Gulf to the South China sea, to do such, because the Aircraft Carriers keep HIDING away, aka staying 800-1000km away from adversaries shore lines, so they are hiding away, which makes hitting them actually hard. LMAO, but its the fact.

Well. It will not difficult if these Aircraft Carrier are in an open space like the Pacific Ocean..

So they need to be at least 2,600 km away in the case of the ballistic DF-26.

In the age of advanced technology and China Quantum Radar up in space, where can they really hide?

 

[DF41]

So if the Chinese are so good, How come you have not tried to sink a carrier? heck we send destroyers through South China sea all the time on Freedom of Navigation voyages! I don't see any Chinese missiles hitting them. You know the answer why. Both of us do. So go ahead and puff up your chest and toot your horn. We will continue to sail or fly through the " Nine-line-dash" or whatever the heck you want to call it! The entire sea is not your property just because you say, "All of the South China sea is belong to us"

China nowhere as evil and blood thirsty as USA

You forgotten 1950 when Dugout Doug told his guys that they be back for Christmas as chinks laundrymen got only single shot bolt action rifles against USA battleships and carriers and planes and artillery and Ma Deuces with unlimited ammo.
And China economy then worse than sub Sahara Africa.
And in less than 3 weeks, USA and the rest of USA doggies from down under and UK and elsewhere ran south of Parallel with shit running down legs of pants.

China now is a vastly different China of 1950s, with much bigger bang and far longer reach and much more of that than even dreamed of or hope for by USA.

Why not USA fire missile or drop bombs on a Chinese ship?

Please do that very very soon.
I fear USA spiralling into darkness of utter bankruptcy to match the bankruptcy of USA morals in instigating and financing and directing the war in Ukraine and elsewhere.

Petrodollar be a thing of the past and with an utterly poor and destitute USA, no $$$ left to instigate and financed any wars.

Riots be taking place in all cities of USA. Shops and departments be looted and ransacked by USAown people armed with the best firearms they can buy or steal.

Burning of cities will take place giving Pelosi lots of BEAUTIFUL SIGHTS TO BEHOLD without her having to go to Hong Kong
And in short time, USA will become a collection of 50 different countries.

Then no USA to drop bombs on Chinese ships or anywhere else

Go tell your congressman or senator to drop bombs on Chinese ship ASAP
When USA still exist as some kind of entity.

Or you go back to the kindergarten where you crawled out from.

 

[Han Patriot]

US scared of Poutine? Is this a joke? You seen the sorry performance of the Russian military in Ukraine? Am USAF, and I think the VKS sucks.

I am still waiting for US to rescue Ukraine. When is US defending Ukraine. Are you guys cowards? Chuck chuck chuck chuck lololol

 

[gambit]

I am still waiting for US to rescue Ukraine. When is US defending Ukraine. Are you guys cowards? Chuck chuck chuck chuck lololol

No need for US to rescue Ukraine. But Poutine is waiting for a rescue from Xi. Why is the little Pooh Bear walking away from the big bear?

 

[Han Patriot]

No need for US to rescue Ukraine. But Poutine is waiting for a rescue from Xi. Why is the little Pooh Bear walking away from the big bear?

Awww, don't get triggered. Cheerleader no more cheering for USA? So you expect the rape victim to fight the rapist while you look on like a pervert? Lolololol.

 

[gambit]

Awww, don't get triggered. Cheerleader no more cheering for USA? So you expect the rape victim to fight the rapist while you look on like a pervert? Lolololol.

We are not triggered. When we saw how Xi started that slow walk away from his B/F Poutine, we knew that your PLA will remain second place for a while still.

 

[TexasJohn]

China nowhere as evil and blood thirsty as USA

You forgotten 1950 when Dugout Doug told his guys that they be back for Christmas as chinks laundrymen got only single shot bolt action rifles against USA battleships and carriers and planes and artillery and Ma Deuces with unlimited ammo.
And China economy then worse than sub Sahara Africa.
And in less than 3 weeks, USA and the rest of USA doggies from down under and UK and elsewhere ran south of Parallel with shit running down legs of pants.
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China now is a vastly different China of 1950s, with much bigger bang and far longer reach and much more of that than even dreamed of or hope for by USA.

Why not USA fire missile or drop bombs on a Chinese ship?

Please do that very very soon.
I fear USA spiralling into darkness of utter bankruptcy to match the bankruptcy of USA morals in instigating and financing and directing the war in Ukraine and elsewhere.

Petrodollar be a thing of the past and with an utterly poor and destitute USA, no $$$ left to instigate and financed any wars.

Riots be taking place in all cities of USA. Shops and departments be looted and ransacked by USAown people armed with the best firearms they can buy or steal.

Burning of cities will take place giving Pelosi lots of BEAUTIFUL SIGHTS TO BEHOLD without her having to go to Hong Kong
And in short time, USA will become a collection of 50 different countries.

Then no USA to drop bombs on Chinese ships or anywhere else

Go tell your congressman or senator to drop bombs on Chinese ship ASAP
When USA still exist as some kind of entity.

Or you go back to the kindergarten where you crawled out from.

Love how you have not answered my question, but went off in a tangent about Korea which was not even the topic. So let's give this another try..
Why has China not tried to sink ANY US Navy warship?? You have plenty of opportunity? we sail carriers, Destroyers even subs through the South China sea, smack through your "9 dash line" (which is a joke in itself). All you guys do is deliver "stern warnings" and whine about it.

 

[LeGenD]

Those numbers of DFs and YJs I read from elsewhere before.

Too many things to remember and anyway, military matters not on my top list of interest.

Only got dragged into that when I started to read how USA treat China and think China is a punch bag and piece of cake to kick sand into the face.

Thank you for confirming DFs are numbered in hundreds, 250 by your count. You enough of an authority for me , and others here, to accept those numbers.

I admit to my gross error in thinking DFs are in the 100++


Excuse my saying thousands of supersonic hypersonic AShCMs.

Should say thousands of AShCMs which include supersonic hypersonics.

And likely some not made known to anyone as yet.

List of ships of the People's Liberation Army Navy - Wikipedia​

en.wikipedia.org
Even the small type 22 missile boats of 220tons can load and fire 8 AShMs . And there are at least 100 of them, taking type 056 corvette into somewhat consideration.

The 1500 ton corvettes can carry more than 8 AShCMs.

Missile Patrol Fleet​

Commander Yang Yi, the youngest (and first female) Chief Designer in naval history, designed a fleet of eighty Type 022 missile patrol boats. Four hundred feet long, with a range of three-hundred miles, they carry eight C-802 anti-ship missiles tipped with with 500lb. warheads that travel fifteen feet above the surface at 650 mph to targets a hundred miles away (one disabled an Israeli warship off Lebanon’s coast in 2006). Four of her little boats, says Commander Yang, can cover the entire Taiwan Strait while sheltering behind China’s coastal islands.

Or do you think only type 55 and type 52 can fire those AShCMs and not other Chinese Naval and air and land assets?

Just like the 5000 km China underground GREAT WALL, contain only piddling 200++ nukes?

33333333333333333333333333333333333333


Talking about tracking, this video might amuse folks here

https://twitter.com/x/status/1038033917020786689

See how a Chinese satellite videoed and tracked a rocket taking off and then tracking that rocket.

Remember the satellite was moving and had to move or that not be a satellite. Knowing and tracking via radar will be so much easier than tracking and focusing via camera

Which then be messaged to supercomputer to direct the DF21Ds and DF 26 and the thousands of supersonic hypersonic AShCMs to send the good news to US carriers and whatever they got.

So USA can act macho macho strutting about in phony FONOPs .

And all on board knowing they living on borrowed time.

And you want to take that further, you be ready to be part of the pools of green and multi color seas of glass.

Hmm. Thanks for quoting me in this thread.

Chinese are developing solutions but Americans are also developing counter-solutions. Let us have a look at American options below.

For Air Defense role:

SM-3 missile variants can be used to intercept ballistic missiles in Midcourse phase:

U.S. Successfully Conducts SM-3 Block IIA Intercept Test Against an Intercontinental Balli

The U.S. Missile Defense Agency and U.S. Navy sailors aboard the USS John Finn intercepted and destroyed a threat-representative Intercontinental Ballistic Missile target during a flight test

www.defense.gov

SM-2 and SM-6 missile variants can be used to intercept ballistic missiles as well as cruise missiles in Terminal phase:

Sea Sparrow missile variants can be used to intercept cruise missiles in Terminal phase:

Evolved Seasparrow Missile Block 2 Successfully Intercepts Aerial Target in First Live Fire Test - USNI News

The Evolved Seasparrow Missile Block 2 successfully intercepted an aerial target with its active guidance seeker-head, in the missile's first live fire test

news.usni.org

NOTE: United States Navy (USN) Arleigh Burke class Destroyers and Ticonderoga class Cruisers are armed with these munitions.

For Anti-ship role:

Harpoon missile variants
Range = 250+ KM

SLAM-ER Missile

SLAM-ER roots go back to the original Harpoon anti-ship missile placed in the fleet in the late 1970s. Because of emerging operational requirements, the Standoff Land Attack Missile (SLAM) was

www.navy.mil

NOTE: Launched through aircraft and ships.

SM-6 missile variants
Range = 370 KM

Anti-Aircraft Missile Sinks Ship: Navy SM-6 - Breaking Defense

The supersonic SM-6 Standard Missile, designed to shoot down incoming aircraft and cruise missiles, has sunk a target ship in a test. The decommissioned frigate Reuben James went down off Hawaii in the January event, just disclosed today. The test was part of the Navy’s effort to rebuild its...

breakingdefense.com

Navy SM-6 Missile Successfully Hit A Target Barge During Big Manned-Unmanned Teaming Test

The live-fire missile shoot was part of a larger drone-focused experiment that also included swarming technology and various unmanned platforms.

www.thedrive.com

NOTE: Launched through ships.

LRASM
Range = 560 KM

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/mfc/pc/long-range-anti-ship-missile/mfc-lrasm-pc-01.pdf

NOTE: Launched through aircraft.

Tomahawk Block Va
(undergoing trials)
Range = 1600+ KM

USS Chafee Conducts First Operational Test of Tomahawk Block V - Naval News

U.S. Navy Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Chafee (DDG 90) made history being the first to launch and operationally test a Block V Tomahawk cruise missile.

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NOTE: Launched through ships.