Sindudesh has signifcant support in Sindh.

[KaiserX]

For 75 years this is what these Generals have done to Pakistan. They created MQM to counter Sindh nationalist parties. They created religious and ethinic parties to counter one another in Sindh, in Baluchistan. They created iJi to counter PPP. They created Nawaz Sharif. They created Zardari. THE LIST IS ENDLESS. WHO IS GOING TO STOP THESE GENERALS FROM CONTINUOUSLY CREATING DESTABILIZATION IN PAKISTAN ?? Who appointed them to be the Judge, Jury and the executioner??

My earnest prayer to God from the bottom of my heart is that I pray that God punishes these people severely, and free our people from the clutches of the Evil. AMEEN !

Not to forget the games the “establishment” and “neautrals” played with our national heros-

1) Fatima Jinnah the great sister of our quaid
2) ZA Bhutto
3) Zia- seriously how was he killed and no action taken?
4. Imran Khan

This army is not pakistans army but still the army of the british raj reincarnated to oppresss and kill pakistanis. The army leadership needs to be neautralized. Pro pakistan nationalist need to be appointed in every high level position. A presidential dictatorship is in the need or the hour for next 30 years. Id propose a troika of reasonable leaders ie Imran Khan, Raheel Sharif, Asad Umar, General Khan, Faiz Hameed l, etc

 

[jupiter2007]

No doubt the list is much much bigger. What Ayub Khan did to Fatima Jinnah, 1971 partition, Execution of Bhutto, execution of BB, the disastrous 9/11 terror war and so forth. THEY HAVE DONE TOO MUCH DESTRUCTION TO THIS COUNTRY.

Don’t forget Abbottabad incident for Uncle SaM face saving. Everyone within the intelligent community know that Bin Laden, who had a kidney failure, died before 2004.
Only Bin Ladin family was living in that house and this information was leaked because certain people visited that house pretended to be part of the campaign to contain Polio…and you know the rest of the story.
Zardari and General Kayani was part of this plan and because this plan was executed perfectly Uncle Sam was so impressed with Kayani that they offered him a job at pentagon. This information was leaked by Kayani’s driver.

 

[Wood]

The SRA seem to be little more than a small gang. I would not be surprised if it is just 5 people or less

 

[Zarvan]

Prime failure of PTI is inability to break shackles or bring education to thecountry

It was a total failure and now you see the results

PTI didnt do anything just to keep the elite happy/on one page

70 years of destruction can't be reversed in 3 years that too with pandemic what real failure is having those people as supporters who think 70 years of systematic destruction can be undone in 3 years. Khan is not carrying some magic wand. Even with that magic wand it takes at least 10 to 15 years of hard work to start reversing those effects.

 

[ziaulislam]

70 years of destruction can't be reversed in 3 years that too with pandemic what real failure is having those people as supporters who think 70 years of systematic destruction can be undone in 3 years. Khan is not carrying some magic wand. Even with that magic wand it takes at least 10 to 15 years of hard work to start reversing those effects.

Agree
But one of the reason was khan negotiating/being soft with the elite

The reason why severeal reformist came and resigned

Lack of taxation and primary education was biggest failure
Health card was the biggest sucess

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Agree
But one of the reason was khan negotiating/being soft with the elite

The reason why severeal reformist came and resigned

Lack of taxation and primary education was biggest failure
Health card was the biggest sucess

He should handle the elite with tough hands if he comes again in power.

But here we have one more problem;
He and his party members are themselves elite.

In Faislabad,PMLn MNAs are building water pipes even in PTI held halqas.
PTI MNAs on ground are destroying Khan.

 

[Sugarcane]

70 years of destruction can't be reversed in 3 years that too with pandemic what real failure is having those people as supporters who think 70 years of systematic destruction can be undone in 3 years. Khan is not carrying some magic wand. Even with that magic wand it takes at least 10 to 15 years of hard work to start reversing those effects.

Molana your contribution will be required when East India Company unleash TLP against IK.

 

[TNT]

Not just sindh, i was surprised to find that huge population of balochistan are anti Pakistan. Separatism is on the rise and i now am sure this is all due to policies of American and indian agents in our establishment. The traitor snakes actually want Pakistan to disintegrate. We need massive cleanup and overhaul if we want to save Pakistan.

 

[Waterboy]

Not something new. Dad used to tell me when they were in sindh during exercises back in the day[90s] local would chant slogans like jiya bhutto or sindhudesh zindabad on seeing army vehicles.

PPP has the army by the balls because of their ethnic politics. The entire grassroot structure of the feudals is based on a sindhi first and their own interest. They don't give too shits about Pakistan. Sindh card is very big reality unfortunately.

Not just sindh, i was surprised to find that huge population of balochistan are anti Pakistan. Separatism is on the rise and i now am sure this is all due to policies of American and indian agents in our establishment. The traitor snakes actually want Pakistan to disintegrate. We need massive cleanup and overhaul if we want to save Pakistan.

It's not because of the establishment or army. It's mainly due to the administrative structure in these provinces. Feudals and bugtis have consildated power while suppressing the local population. At the same time they spread propaganda against state citing it as the main problem of their plight, however it's the feudals who eat up the entire budgets. Then you have social media and massive disinformation by foreign agencies. We don't have soft power in either sindh or balochistan.

Not everything can be blamed on the army. Afterall the civilian or feudals would sell the state in an instant for their benefits.

You don't need enemies, pakistan biggest enemy is pakistan's themselves.

 

[Aijaz Kolachi]

As you exit Sehwan and on other side, Hyderabad...all you would find are the flags of Sindhi Nationalists, now banned militant organization JSQM and SRA, painted on the walls. Every now and then they would hold protests or rallies but nothing in significant or a large crowd.

Back in 2012-2015, (post killing of JSQM Chairman Bashir Qureshi) support had died down significantly . There was barely any shutdown of the national highways (N5 or N55)
but I remember that towards 2018 things started to pick up the pace again....there were gatherings, protests, flags etc.

I guess we dropped our guard down and allowed them to gather up again. Credit for this goes to Zardari sb who played on the other side of fence and allowed shafi barfat to hold protests in Sindh recently.... by 2020 things were back on track for these militant groups. By end of 2020 BLA announced support for SRA and they carried out their first grenade attack in Ghotki on Rangers vehicles in march 2021, followed by another attack in Karachi.

JSQM-A, JSMM and SRA are banned in Jeay Sindh factions by Pakistan government. JSQM-B which is the biggest party in the faction isn’t banned.

True that. Basheer Khan Qureshi had popular support back when he was alive. Like this rally in Karachi on 23 March (Pakistan resolution day) 2012 showing their support for independent Sindhudesh. There was thousands of people in it, as per ARY news report, that people were packed from Tibet centre to Numaish chowrangi which is 2 KM strech. You can imagine the amount of people in it. My purpose from the video was to show that they enjoy alot of popular support but as they don’t contest in Elections. They can’t show their seats to show their support.

 

[Valiant]

I agree with the conclusions. I have also heard that Sindh Police or elements within the institution are extremely compromised and can play a role not dissimilar to Mukti Bahini. Grave circumstances

 

[Aijaz Kolachi]

I have yet to come across a Nationalist come Militant who had a strong academic background. most of the support is from far flung areas where potable water is hard to come by let alone education.

again I can be wrong but Militancy in Sindh has yet to mature unlike Balochistan, where you will find students / grads picking up weapon to fight against the state.....

Support base of JSQM and other separatist factions of Jeay Sindh comes from universities. They always win the elections in universities. Founder of Sindhi nationalism and JSQM was GM Syed (Ghulam Murtaza Syed) who was also the founder of Pakistan and president of Muslim league in Sindh. He passed the Lahore resolution in Sindh assembly, Sindh being the first, through that necessary step Pakistan came into reality showing British that Pakistan idea was supported by an federating unit. Though nothing in that said Lahore resolution was fulfilled so he went against Pakistan in 1972. Basheer Khan Qureshi, Muzaffar Bhutto, Abdul Wahid Arisar, Safdar Sarki, Rooplo Cholyani etc etc all became JSSF members in universities. Though they were not militant except for Qadir Magsi who killed hundreds of Muhajirs while he was an student in Jamshoro University and member of JSSF.

I do agree Sindh never had an militant insurgency against the Pakistani state. Because Saeen GM Syed was pacifist, he never believed in armed struggle to liberate Sindh. Basheer Khan Qureshi following his footsteps never did that, that’s why militant ones in the JSQM left it and created JSMM like Shafi Burfat and Rooplo Cholyani. Because JSQM were majority and discouraged it’s supporters from being militant, JSMM never became a threat.

No matter how much you misinformed curse Zardari or PPP. But it’s only him and his party which has still made Sindh to be part of federation of Pakistan. They have been able to counter the support of Jeay Sindh factions. Zardari even avoided an civil war in Pakistan after the killing of Benazir Bhutto. Aftermath of assassination left Sindh in ruins and no law enforcement for days in Sindh. I myself went to Nawabshah from Hyderabad. There was law enforcement on roads, instead it was armed PPP workers guarding the checkposts. We had PPP flag put on our car to be safe. Every PPP supporter was chanting old Sindhudesh slogan, "Pakistan na khappay" (We don’t want Pakistan) but Zardari countered it with "Pakistan khappay" (We want Pakistan) and avoided a civil war. Here is Zulfiqar Mirza (former PPP leader, now an PTI ally) talking about how they were going to break up Pakistan and would had if not for Zardari stopping them:

I agree with the conclusions. I have also heard that Sindh Police or elements within the institution are extremely compromised and can play a role not dissimilar to Mukti Bahini. Grave circumstances

Totally agreed. Sindhis are extremely nationalist. It doesn’t matter if an Sindhi belongs to PPP, GDA or Jeay Sindh. They won’t bear an attempt to break up Sindh or remove its autonomy. Now that bureaucracy and police of Sindh is totally under Sindhi domination compared to 1977 when Bhutto was ousted where Sindhis were minority in it. We can see an rebellion in the institutions of Operation Searchlight scale.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Support base of JsQM and other separatist factions of Jeay Sindh comes from universities. They always win the elections in universities. Founder of Sindhi nationalism and JsQM was GM Syed (Ghulam Murtaza Syed) who was also the founder of Pakistan and president of Muslim league in Sindh. He passed the Lahore resolution in Sindh assembly, Sindh being the first, through that necessary step Pakistan came into reality showing British that Pakistan idea was supported by an federating unit. Though nothing in that said Lahore resolution was fulfilled so he went against Pakistan in 1972. Basheer Khan Qureshi, Muzaffar Bhutto, Abdul Wahid Arisar, Safdar Sarki, Rooplo Cholyani etc etc all became JSSF members in universities. Though they were not militant except for Qadir Magsi who killed hundreds of Muhajirs while he was an student in Jamshoro University and member of JSSF.

I do agree Sindh never had an militant insurgency against the Pakistani state. Because Saeen GM Syed was pacifist, he never believed in armed struggle to liberate Sindh. Basheer Khan Qureshi following his footsteps never did that, that’s why militant ones in the JSQM left it and created JSMM like Shafi Burfat and Rooplo Cholyani. Because JSQM were majority and discouraged it’s supporters from being militant, JSMM never became a threat.

No matter how much you misinformed curse Zardari or PPP. But it’s only him and his party which has still made Sindh to be part of federation of Pakistan. They have been able to counter the support of Jeay Sindh factions. Zardari even avoided an civil war in Pakistan after the killing of Benazir Bhutto. Aftermath of assassination left Sindh in ruins and no law enforcement for days in Sindh. I myself went to Nawabshah from Hyderabad. There was law enforcement on roads, instead it was armed PPP workers guarding the checkposts. We had PPP flag put on our car to be safe. Every PPP supporter was chanting old Sindhudesh slogan, "Pakistan na khappay" (We don’t want Pakistan) but Zardari countered it with "Pakistan khappay" (We want Pakistan) and avoided a civil war. Here is Zulfiqar Mirza (former PPP leader, now an PTI ally) talking about how they were going to break up Pakistan and would had if not for Zardari stopping them:

zaradari is cursed because he is taking Sindh back to the stone ages even with so much potential- this is leading to part of the resentment in the first place
if he was helping Sindh progress- then what's the issue? really there's no issue with Zardari on a personal-he is just bad at his job of economic growth
Sindh aint more devasted than FATA, Sindh is near the port - why is it going back in every metric? - this is Zardaris fault, he ain't doing enough for people of Sindh
this is the beef and then he or his party sells BS to his voters and convinces them of a grand conspiracy

Per capita NFC award of sindh is among the highest- but you see very little of it helping peoples lives, or industrialization of interior Sindh

Hell I would prefer ethno-nats (as long as they if they of course want to form government in the first place) actually have a plan for development

 

[Aijaz Kolachi]

zaradari is cursed because he is taking Sindh back to the stone ages even with so much potential- this is leading to part of the resentment in the first place
if he was helping Sindh progress- then what's the issue? really there's no issue with Zardari on a personal-he is just bad at his job of economic growth
Sindh aint more devasted than FATA, Sindh is near the port - why is it going back in every metric? - this is Zardaris fault, he ain't doing enough for people of Sindh
this is the beef

As I said before PPP takes it votes from Sindhi nationalist card. I have explained in a previously in another thread how PPP totally changed Sindhi’s position before 1971 and after it, it gave Sindhis their rights and actually accomplished it (which was deleted for some reason, showing 'racism', it wasn’t even given chance to ask the mod why?).

 

[Areesh]

zaradari is cursed because he is taking Sindh back to the stone ages even with so much potential

The condition of people like @Aijaz Kolachi is like hindus of BJP in India. Both don't care where they are going to with their leaders. Only thing that matters for them is they are successfully oppressing muahjirs and putting them "in their place" just like hindus of India who wants to put indian muslims "in their place"