Since Earliest Historical Times Hinduism Was Never Popular in Pakistan

[Nassr]

What a poorly written thread. Firstly, Buddhism is as much Indian as Hinduism. Furthermore, most Indians historically did not differentiate b/w Hinduism and Buddhism. This was a much later attempt by British historians to understand Indian culture by diving it into "religions". The concept of religion is foreign to India. There is no word for religion in Indian languages. "Dharma" does not mean religion. If you see Indian faiths like Hinduism/Buddhism/Jainism from the narrow prism of religion, you will never understand them.

Exactly bro...Rig Veda predates Alexander by centuries!


Pakistani civilization? Man Pak's civilization is Indian with elements coming from Iran and Arabia. Nothing is "Pakistani".

The Meluhha lived on this land known as Pakistan much before Vedism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and many other local faiths emerged. Though the actual religion of Meluhha has not been deciphered so far, many Indian and Pakistani scholars believe that they followed monotheism. When these faiths emerged in sub-continent there was no India. Rig Veda does predate Alexander, but does not predate the Meluhha. Pakistan was created on the land of Meluhha by the original inhabitants of this land and the actual descendants of the Meluhha, and are therefore the true heirs of Indus Valley Civilization, and not India. India did not have any civilization and wrongly claim that IVC is Indian. The world is waking up to this reality. The Indians may like to find their own identity from within the Republic of India rather than seeking a Pakistani identity. Winston Churchil once said that India is merely a geographical expression and it is no more a single country than the Equator. What more can I say.

Interestingly, the Indian Constitution and Indian Supreme Court states unabshedly that Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism are sects of Hinduism. The Buddhists, Jains and Sikhs themselves do not agree with connotation and claim that they are separate religions as the rest of the world believes, less India.

 

[pk_baloch]

Pakistani civilization? Man Pak's civilization is Indian with elements coming from Iran and Arabia. Nothing is "Pakistani".

baba ji soon the term indian civilization is going to be changed internationally ......

 

[Nassr]

@Nassr
u will find almost every think tank of PDF like him as if they have authentic knowledge of world wide than other pakistanis and they have proper knowledge than others............i donot know who makes them think tanks

I do not know, probably because they can only think from within an empty tank.

 

[pk_baloch]

polytheists mean even u go against science ....for example some one who is fire worshiper and other is forbiding him to worship fire will give u nothing ,then after thousand years it became science that fire produce from coal etc and all are natural resources ...then wat will u do ? will u go against science? or worshiping fire ?one GOD religion through people which tells u before science ..u will not listen to them but listen to that science which is only 100 years old ?

I do not know, probably because they can only think from within an empty tank.

hahhahaha

 

[Ajatashatru]

The Meluhha lived on this land known as Pakistan much before Vedism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and many other local faiths emerged.

Yeah, Jinnah founded Pakistan in Harappa in 2000 BC

Though the actual religion of Meluhha has not been deciphered so far, many Indian and Pakistani scholars believe that they followed monotheism. When these faiths emerged in sub-continent there was no India.

Many historians agree that elements of Hinduism can be traced to IVC. Exactly how many elements is what is disputed. But that doesn't really matter. Faiths change over time.

Pakistan was created on the land of Meluhha by the original inhabitants of this land and the actual descendants of the Meluhha, and are therefore the true heirs of Indus Valley Civilization, and not India.

Majority of Pakistanis just like majority of Indians are Indo-Aryans, not the descendants of IVC. In fact almost all of descendants of people who predate Indo-Aryans, i.e., the Dravidians live in India.

India did not have any civilization and wrongly claim that IVC is Indian. The world is waking up to this reality. The Indians may like to find their own identity from within the Republic of India rather than seeking a Pakistani identity. Winston Churchil once said that India is merely a geographical expression and it is no more a single country than the Equator. What more can I say.

IVC was Indian. The world knows this. No neutral source says IVC was part of some "Pakistani civilization". Churchill was a fool. His own country's encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Britannica does not even list Pak's history before 1947. For that it says to look into the article for Indian history. It also claims Hinduism to be oldest living religion. And Britannica is a completely neutral source written by experts which cannot be edited by anyone like Wikipedia.

Interestingly, the Indian Constitution and Indian Supreme Court states unabshedly that Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism are sects of Hinduism.

Indian supreme court does not call these religions "sects" of Hinduism. It says Hinduism means all native faiths of India. Hinduism is not a native word and so is open to interpretation. In fact Supreme Court gives the same definition of Hinduism which the Muslims who coined the term gave.

 

[Nassr]

Yeah, Jinnah founded Pakistan in Harappa in 2000 BC


Many historians agree that elements of Hinduism can be traced to IVC. Exactly how many elements is what is disputed. But that doesn't really matter. Faiths change over time.


Majority of Pakistanis just like majority of Indians are Indo-Aryans, not the descendants of IVC. In fact almost all of descendants of people who predate Indo-Aryans, i.e., the Dravidians live in India.


IVC was Indian. The world knows this. No neutral source says IVC was part of some "Pakistani civilization". Churchill was a fool. His own country's encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Britannica does not even list Pak's history before 1947. For that it says to look into the article for Indian history. It also claims Hinduism to be oldest living religion. And Britannica is a completely neutral source written by experts which cannot be edited by anyone like Wikipedia.


Indian supreme court does not call these religions "sects" of Hinduism. It says Hinduism means all native faiths of India. Hinduism is not a native word and so is open to interpretation. In fact Supreme Court gives the same definition of Hinduism which the Muslims who coined the term gave.

As if Nehru was the Prime Minister of Aryavarta.

It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Dravidians were never part of the IVC, unless you are a believer of the Aryan Invasion Theory, which has also been debunked. The descendants of the IVC live in Pakistan and it has also been genetically proven that a large majority of Pakistanis are genetically different from the Indians. Therefore, there is no linkage of the IVC people with Indian people.

Jains, Sikhs part of broader Hindu religion, says SC
New Delhi, August 10 [2005]

In a significant ruling defining the status of communities like Sikhs and Jains within the Constitutional frame work, the Supreme Court has declined to treat them as separate minority communities from the broad Hindu religion, saying encouraging such tendencies would pose serious jolt to secularism and democracy in the country.

The so-called minority communities like Sikhs and Jains were not treated as national minorities at the time of framing of the Constitution. Sikhs and Jains, in fact, have throughout been treated as part of wider Hindu community, which has different sects, sub-sects, faiths, modes of worship and religious philosophies, a Bench of Chief Justice R.C. Lahoti, Mr Justice D.M. Dharmadhikari and Mr Justice P.K. Balasubramanyan said.

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Nation

 

[oFFbEAT]

.....and how do you prove that Hinduism was never popular in Pakistan?.......just keep destroying Hindu architectures......one day there will be no trace of anything related to Hinduism.....

 

[Nassr]

.....and how do you prove that Hinduism was never popular in Pakistan?.......just keep destroying Hindu architectures......one day there will be no trace of anything related to Hinduism.....

Read from page 1 please. I have proven it from historical point of view. Also, you have reminded me of another valid point. There is very little ancient Hindu architecture west of Delhi since historical times and this can be easily ascertained as little of it exist on ground as compared to the rest of India, despite the percentage you may readily quote destroyed by invaders.

 

[oFFbEAT]

Keep doing this.... BBC News - Razed temple highlights Pakistan Hindu woes ........so that one day you can teach your children the History you want......but this will not solve your problem, only aggravate it......

 

[Nassr]

Keep doing this.... BBC News - Razed temple highlights Pakistan Hindu woes ........so that one day you can teach your children the History you want......but this will not solve your problem, only aggravate it......

The temple has since been rebuilt due to the protests of civil society. The land and building mafia does such things with mosques as well.

I am talking about about historical times.

 

[oFFbEAT]

The temple has since been rebuilt due to the protests of civil society. The land and building mafia does such things with mosques as well.

Show me an example of any Sunni Mosque being demolished for any purpose....

I am talking about about historical times.

These are old historic temples and they're being destroyed intentionally....

 

[Indischer]

As if Nehru was the Prime Minister of Aryavarta.

It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Dravidians were never part of the IVC, unless you are a believer of the Aryan Invasion Theory, which has also been debunked. The descendants of the IVC live in Pakistan and it has also been genetically proven that a large majority of Pakistanis are genetically different from the Indians. Therefore, there is no linkage of the IVC people with Indian people.

Care to provide "proofs" for these? And which genetic haplogroup do most Pakistanis belong to?

When Iran, Afghanistan and majority of North India share the same genetic heritage, please explain how the Pakistanis alone came to embellish themselves with a different genetic sequence?

File:Haplogroup R (Y-DNA).PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's actually the Dravidian population that has some variations from the Eurasian genes, to which Iran, Pakistan and Northern India belong to.

Haplogroup H-M69 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Heard of NatGeo's Genographic project? My maternal uncle got his genes tested through them. Turns out he's having R1a gene as well. And our community is based entirely in South India. I suggest you test your genes before arriving at such ridiculous conclusions.)

 

[Nassr]

Care to provide "proofs" for these? And which genetic haplogroup do most Pakistanis belong to?

When Iran, Afghanistan and majority of North India share the same genetic heritage, please explain how the Pakistanis alone came to embellish themselves with a different genetic sequence?

File:Haplogroup R (Y-DNA).PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's actually the Dravidian population that has some variations from the Eurasian genes, to which Iran, Pakistan and Northern India belong to.

Haplogroup H-M69 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Heard of NatGeo's Genographic project? My maternal uncle got his genes tested through them. Turns out he's having R1a gene well. And our community is based entirely in South India. I suggest you test your genes before arriving at such ridiculous conclusions.)

 

[Indischer]

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Paste the link dude. It's hardly visible.

Genetic link shown between Indian subcontinent and Mesopotamia - Archaeology News from Past Horizons : Archaeology News from Past Horizons

 

[Nassr]

Show me an example of any Sunni Mosque being demolished for any purpose....



These are old historic temples and they're being destroyed intentionally....

You show me a pre 1947 mosque from Gurdaspur areas which was then a Muslim majority area and I won't remind you of Babri Mosque destruction which even your Prime Ministers have stated was a black mark on India. The hundreds of years old Muslim graveyards were destroyed by you people and modern houses were built on them. Please, lets not get in to those aspects. It is an historical fact that there were very less historical Hindu structures west of Delhi.

The temple you are talking about was not a historic one.

Paste the link dude. It's hardly visible.

Genetic link shown between Indian subcontinent and Mesopotamia - Archaeology News from Past Horizons : Archaeology News from Past Horizons

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