Similarities Between Turkish and Urdu

[dexter]

 

[war&peace]

@Hakikat ve Hikmet @django @Indus Pakistan
See 100% match.. I must say both participants are smart but at the same time it shows how closely related both languages are.
Urdu and Turkish have a lot more common word than they discussed for example "sabun"

 

[El Sidd]

Kavurma lazeez oslun abla

 

[lastofthepatriots]

@Hakikat ve Hikmet @django @Indus Pakistan
See 100% match.. I must say both participants are smart but at the same time it shows how closely related both languages are.
Urdu and Turkish have a lot more common word than they discussed for example "sabun"

Closest language to Urdu is Dari and kharboli.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Army means ''Ordu'' in Turk language; given The Turk ''existance'' method, you will see it makes sense.

 

[padamchen]

Similarities are one thing.

But in terms of closeness it would have to be Hindi.

Pakistanis, Indians, and Bangladeshis can converse with each other (Sri Lankans cannot).

Add to the above Afghans who've lived in India or Pakistan.

Can Turks converse with Pakistanis?

Can Afghans?

Can Iranis?

THAT should be the litmus test.

Not BS feel good pan Islamic videos.

Cheers, Doc

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Army means ''Ordu'' in Turk language; given The Turk ''existance'' method, you will see it makes sense.

I have no idea what you mean by Turkish existence method.

Similarities are one thing.

But in terms of closeness it would have to be Hindi.

Pakistanis, Indians, and Bangladeshis can converse with each other (Sri Lankans cannot).

Add to the above Afghans who've lived in India or Pakistan.

Can Turks converse with Pakistanis?

Can Afghans?

Can Iranis?

THAT should be the litmus test.

Not BS feel good pan Islamic videos.

Cheers, Doc

Lmao. The speech Shah Mahmood Qureshi just gave in Urdu had your diplomats with a wtf face at the UN. The truth is literary Urdu is very different to whatever language you guys speak in India. Cry and deny it all you want. It makes no difference.

 

[padamchen]

I have no idea what you mean by turn existence method.



Lmao. The speech Shah Mahmood Qureshi just gave in Urdu had your diplomats with a wtf face at the UN. The truth is literary Urdu is very different to whatever language you guys speak in India. Cry and deny it all you want. It makes no difference.

When we meet, and after I've sat on and wiped the floor with you, the two of us can talk it out.

Can you do that with a Turk.

Cheers, Doc

 

[lastofthepatriots]

When we meet, and after I've sat on and wiped the floor with you, the two of us can talk it out.

Can you do that with a Turk.

Cheers, Doc

Seems like you are having issues with pleasing your wife from the back aches you get old man. Please don't actually challenge a younger guy in real life, otherwise I fear you might actually get hurt.

 

[padamchen]

Seems like you are having issues with pleasing your wife from the back aches you get old man. Please don't actually challenge a younger guy in real life, otherwise I fear you might actually get hurt.

Lol you can't be serious. Or if you are, your old men are probably as studly as you.

Lost count of the number of younger guys I have taught a violent lesson in humility to. You'd just be way down on that list. Not worth special mention besides your nationality.

Coming back to the topic, Pakistanis and Indians speak abroad very easily. I have.

Our cricketers speak on the field just as well.

It's a lot closer than many related European languages of different small countries adjoining each others. Latin. Germanic. Anglophone. Francophone.

Looking at our numbers, it easily the biggest language group in the world.

Cheers, Doc

P.S. Backaches? Dude, you are way too young for that. Stop spending hours here and hit the gym. Or run. Or bike. Have you grown a paunch? Sounds like it.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Similarities are one thing.

But in terms of closeness it would have to be Hindi.

Pakistanis, Indians, and Bangladeshis can converse with each other (Sri Lankans cannot).

Add to the above Afghans who've lived in India or Pakistan.

Can Turks converse with Pakistanis?

Can Afghans?

Can Iranis?

THAT should be the litmus test.

Not BS feel good pan Islamic videos.

Cheers, Doc

Agreed. But all that is testimony to the British Empire. It created a common zone which cultivated the things you touched on. The Russians did the same to Central Asia. What this did was create divergences and cleavages in what used to be Persian dominant zone. One of the reasons I support the 'iron curtain' along the Radcliffe line but phasing out of the Durand Line is to undo the legacy of British Raj imposed divisions. if Pakistan animosity continues with India for another century which I hope it does and things settle out on our western border under CPEC we could again revisit our history with shared brotherhood [today under the guise of Islam] with countries to west of us - Iran, Afghanistan, Central Asia and of course Turkey.

Now that would be great.

Ps. The history of Indus region has been defined by being contact zone between the west and east. For long periods we were the eastern extentions of the western based empires, other other times of eastern based empires and other times as the fracture zone between the two. After leaving the British Raj which tied us to east I hope our destiny is moving to west again. Long live Pak/India rivalry!

 

[padamchen]

Agreed. But all that is testimony to the British Empire. It created a common zone which cultivated the things you touched on. The Russians did the same to Central Asia. What this did was create divergences and cleavages in what used to be Persian dominant zone. One of the reasons I support the 'iron curtain' along the Radcliffe line but phasing out of the Durand Line is to undo the legacy of British Raj imposed divisions. if Pakistan animosity continues with India for another century which I hope it does and things settle out on our western border under CPEC we could again revisit our history with shared brotherhood [today under the guise of Islam] with countries to west of us - Iran, Afghanistan, Central Asia and of course Turkey.

Now that would be great.

Ps. The history of Indus region has been defined by being contact zone between the west and east. For long periods we were the eastern extentions of the western based empires, other other times of eastern based empires and other times as the fracture zone between the two. After leaving the British Raj which tied us to east I hope our destiny is moving to west again. Long live Pak/India rivalry!

Linguistic commonality is never about political ebb and flows.

Your argument would be true for things like our military and administrative and bureaucratic structures.

English as the language of the educated elite.

Cricket.

Our awe of and deference to white skin.

Our attitudes of self derision towards our own ancestral heritage.

These are legacies of colonial rule.

Hindi and Urdu are legacies of Muslim rule. Urdu developed as a garrison link tongue between the foreign Muslim elite and the Indic foot soldiers.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Did you know that the official language of the Sikh Empire was Persian? @padamchen and old records in Lahore are all in Farsi. This only change in 1850 after British conquest of the Sikh Empire and Urdu/Hindi was sanctioned as way to sever with the past Iranic legacy.

 

[padamchen]

Did you know that the official language of the Sikh Empire was Persian? @padamchen and old records in Lahore are all in Farsi. This only change in 1850 after British conquest of the Sikh Empire and Urdu/Hindi was sanctioned as way to sever with the past Iranic legacy.

Yes I knew that.

There are surds who come up to me and say we are brothers. Implying some sort of older blood tie.

I don't know how that works to be honest.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Linguistic commonality is never about political ebb and flows.

No? What did you say below Doc?

Hindi and Urdu are legacies of Muslim rule. Urdu developed as a garrison link tongue between the foreign Muslim elite and the Indic foot soldiers

Contradiction? Muslim rule was one "political ebb and flow".

Ps. What does this mashed up term 'Indic" mean? Is this something like I might contrive up 'Pakistanic"?