Sikhs Returning To Orakzai Agency

[Tshering22]

When their isn't a sikh ummah. Self Contradiction or what.

We don't have rigid rules to express solidarity and who're you to tell us our principles of faith? For you everything is black or white, for us it is not. Hindus and Sikhs express solidarity with us Buddhists and vice versa. We don't need any rigid structure to tell us what to do and what not. This ummah is your concept not ours; its existence or not doesn't undo our reason for apprehension over happenings.

Well it is because of the ummah thing. Irrelevant for you because Sikhs don't have ummah concept.

Again with that ummah. I told you, don't view every faith with your own glasses because all aren't structured like yours. Who're you to tell us what's relevant in our branches of faith or not?

That doesn't make you the guardian or leader of Sikhism. Many sikhs won't agree to it.

And you're the all-knowing intellectual who can predict everything eh?

Sikhism was originated in sub continent not present day India. Makes a lot of difference. Anyways it also doesn't make you the guardian of Sikhism. Many sikhs might not agree to this hilarious idea.

You think of India as a creation of British and yourself as a continuation of Islamic empire. That's where the perspective parts ways. You're not even aware of what Sikhs think and not so don't speak for them. Being in India and around them and also aware of our common concepts, I am more familiar to their sentiments than you could ever be.

Than giving shelter to citizens of other countries ask your own citizens whether they want to live in India or not. Hopefully answer would be positive.

As I said, it is their choice. They're welcome to stay and if they're adamant on leaving, they're free. We're not an ideology based country.

Because they had the resources.

Having resource is a personal problem in a capitalist country and not state responsibility. Aren't you aware of that? When the refugees escaped your country, you didn't give them bags full of gold either.

Do ask the affected Christians or Muslims about their choice? The answer would be obvious. As I said before giving so called shelter to citizens of other countries first provide satisfaction and justice to your own citizens.

There are many of them here; why don't you ask them for your own satisfaction? Just as you tell us, stop creating problems in our state and disputing it and we'll stop meddling in yours.

We've had court processes for those who were indeed guilty on both so-called minority side and majority side. Unlike yours where nothing was told about them until they escaped into India and told the dark truth. First clean up your system before pointing at us.

Doesn't make illegal immigrants as legal. If Bangladeshi citizens live peacefully than they are also legal citizens of India by your logic.

Bangladesh didn't accede to India because they wanted to be a separate country. So the country is for them not us. They're not our responsibility. We've open-travel open stay agreement with Nepal and Bhutan; don't have with Bangladesh and Pakistan. Go figure out why.

Oh we know that and many sikhs living in USA or Britain also know that.

Terrorists funded by you don't account for being a part of the community. Certainly BLA doesn't happen to be in honorary list of great citizens in your country for sure.

No it isn't.

Living in denial has already cost your country a lot; it won't do any more good than it is doing bad now. The rest is upto you.

The question is still the same the when did India become the guardian of Sikhs and why they aren't illegal immigrants treaded as illegal immigrants.

Refugees fleeing religious persecution are viewed differently just as Tibetan Buddhist monks. Don't expect pseudo-secularism from us. We're here to protect our kind if they're not treated well.

Same goes for you too. Don't support terrorism in your neighbors. We have the past and the present to prove how much you interfere in other country's affairs.

PROVE IT to the international community, the UNSC and other international bodies that we're creating terrorism in your country with ALL the proof, political effort and reach you can; we sent our evidences to UNSC and they just by looking at them, they put a stamp on you. If you indeed have evidences of us creating problem in your country, Why so hesitant to show international community?

Here's why; it is all a political eyewash by your government to direct your attention on us. If you're victim and not culprit, why aren't you striving for proving it?

That happened in India and that too by political, democratic govt of India.

We were a Socialist state then with a command economy; not what we are today. Political structure and level of government authoritarianism was different then than it became post 1991. What Indira government activists did was totally their fault. The same government issued shoot-to-kill level emergency orders on ENTIRE India without regard to community. So see for yourself what I am talking about.

It still doesn't reflect the majority idea of the entire country. Your argument falls face flat.

You missed the point. IOK is not India's internal matter. Even Indians know that.

Same way persecution of Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists is not internal matter of Pakistan and neither is Balochistan. I hope you understand and are able to "prove it".

It was the case of illegal immigrants. Treat them in the same manner.

We might be constitutionally secular but we're not pseudo-secular. (Not regarding Indian so-called minorities but just general) Muslims have 50 countries worldwide to go in case there's a dangerous problem in their countries; Christians have 100 countries run according to their laws.

Whereas Buddhists/mainstream Hindus/Sikhs have one place for religious safety if they're not safe which is an untold understanding that many countries have with their communities and that is India.

As I said, the ones that escaped Muslim extremists in Pakistan didn't come here on India's invitation; they themselves felt that India is their place where they'd not be killed for who they are.

 

[Tshering22]

Who is Sidhu???


anyway who cares

My words exactly. He's a member of parliament and contestant from Amritsar and has expressed his views on national television. I don't know why some members are over-blowing it.

So many Pakistani politicians raise hell on small issues in India on their TV channels; do we pick up every matter and make threads?

Thanks for once understanding Jana .

 

[FreekiN]