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Shun beef to stop climate change, says India

And it is the bottom line what your Indian minister meant ;)

Your response leaves me in doubt whether you take anyone's statements on face value. However, if you do wish to drag it any further, let me assure you of the drive that has been already on in Australia, where they are promoting Kangaroo meat against beef. Their logic - demand for beef leads to greenhouse effects. Go figure.
 
Listen up, all u folks. There is a saying and it goes like this.

'YOUR ARE WHAT YOU EAT'. Having said that I will say that eating lentils (DALLS) produces more gas (farts) than any other edible stuff including beef.

try it and you will experience it, so what is this Indian minister dude up to. I think he is trying to wow Hindu audience.
 
instead of finding flam in every thread try to analyse statement by your minister. The recent meeting about Climate change has already failed to formulate any consensus. The countries who are adding to carbon emissions largely are shying away from announcing funds for fighting the climate change and are asking smaller nations including India to pay more which is not at all justified.

In such a scenario the silly statement by Indian minister is tantamount to give a free walk to all those major carbon emitters.

He has put rational behind his statement its upto me to analyze or ignore the statement.
 
Listen up, all u folks. There is a saying and it goes like this.

'YOUR ARE WHAT YOU EAT'. Having said that I will say that eating lentils (DALLS) produces more gas (farts) than any other edible stuff including beef.

try it and you will experience it, so what is this Indian minister dude up to. I think he is trying to wow Hindu audience.

Dude, I had a couple of cows as pets, and I reared their offsprings for years. We had to install really big windows to make sure of the ventilation. For all I have seen, it will take at least a 100 men to fart as much as each cow does. :hang2:
 
Dude, I had a couple of cows as pets, and I reared their offsprings for years. We had to install really big windows to make sure of the ventilation. For all I have seen, it will take at least a 100 men to fart as much as each cow does. :hang2:

:) then why not to do away with farting cows
 
or eat Rats, Snake, cockroaches, worms,spiders..or anything that moves under the sun,like Chinese do..

It would be much better to look into main reasons for carbon emission instead of just focusing on not eating beef.
 
:) then why not to do away with farting cows

Exactly! Act wisely, and stop farming them.


It would be much better to look into main reasons for carbon emission instead of just focusing on not eating beef.


Kangaroo farming would cut greenhouse gases: study


By Michael Perry

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Farming kangaroos instead of sheep and cattle in Australia could cut by almost a quarter the greenhouse gases produced by grazing livestock, which account for 11 percent of the nation's annual emissions, said a new study.

Removing seven million cattle and 36 million sheep by 2020 and replacing them with 175 million kangaroos, to produce the same amount of meat, could lower national greenhouse gases by 3 percent a year, said the University of New South Wales study.

Methane from the foregut of cattle and sheep constitutes 11 percent of Australia's total greenhouse emissions, but kangaroos produce negligible amounts of methane, said the study.

The study said methane was a principal concern in climate change because more than 500 million metric tons of the gas entered the atmosphere annually, which exceeds the amount that can be naturally removed.

Methane's warming potential over a 100-year time frame is 21 times higher than that of carbon dioxide, but its chemical lifetime in the atmosphere is only 8 to 12 years compared with carbon dioxide's 100 years.

"Therefore, reducing methane production is an attractive short-term target for mitigating global warming," said the study published in the latest edition of the international journal "Conservation Letters".

However, the study said changing farming practices in Australia, which is one of the world's top wool and beef producers but sells by comparison only small amounts of kangaroo meat for human consumption, would not be easy.

"The change will require large cultural and social adjustments and reinvestment. One of the impediments to change is protective legislation and the status of kangaroos as a national icon," it said.

The kangaroo is on Australia's coat of arms, but farmers regard the country's 34 million kangaroos as pests that compete for grazing pastures with sheep and cattle.

Australia is trying to develop a carbon emissions trading system by 2010, but the government has said agriculture would be excluded from the scheme.

Australia's greenhouse emissions totals 576 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent, or about 1.5 percent of world emissions. But Australia emits 28.1 metric tons of carbon per person, the highest per capita in the developed world and five times more per person than China, due to use of coal for electricity.

Transport and energy accounts for the largest amount of emissions, at 69.6 percent, with agriculture creating 15.6 percent. Sheep and cattle alone produce 10.9 percent of emissions.

The study said farmers had few options to reduce greenhouse gas emissions other than changing feed stock, reducing livestock numbers or changing species. The study cited the growth of wildlife industries such as springbok farming in South Africa, red deer in Britain and bison in the United States.

"Using kangaroos to produce low-emission meat is an option for the Australian rangelands...and could even have global application," said the study

http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSSYD8867720080808
 
And bushy how many countries actually can have kangrooooooooooo farming ????? :)
 
A member of your government is saying this ridiculous thing then that obviously implicates all of India.

I would think that CFCs from factories, cars, ACs, powerplants would have more of an impact that the farts of the beef eaters.

If anyone tries to take my T-bone steaks away they'd have a war on their hands :)

What hon Zardari says to Palin implies to all Pakistanis? or what hon ZAF's famous "Suuar ke Bacche" words for Bangladeshis implied to all his countrymen then?
 
Spare the animals. They are doing any damages to the climate than 6.3 billion humans do. They don't even know what is climate change and they know how to survive a climate change. But we will suffer and we will complain that these animals created the change.
 
would India start the practice of not farming cows anymore.

in other words we should not have any cow right?

Your unique inference is beyond my comprehension. Cows have been here for millions of years and global warming did not happen.

Why is it happening only in modern ages? - People began to rear them for meat, the only process that creates and destroys generations and generations of cattle in a very small frame of time. This process has created an ecological imbalance, and is of grave concern when there are numerous other factors teaming up in warming the globe.

I hope now you some how understand that mere existence of cows has nothing to do with global warming, however, their culling sure has.
 
And bushy how many countries actually can have kangrooooooooooo farming ????? :)

Jana, there was an adversity in northern China, when the crops were invaded and destroyed by an army of billions of grasshoppers and people had nothing to eat. They ate those grasshoppers.

In Australia, they have a substitute for cattle in Kangaroos. There is always a substitute for secondary food in every part of the world. So please act a little mature and quit hairsplitting, please.
 
What the OP meant and what this thread has degenerated into is totally different. Please don't think I am supporting an Indian minister who 9 out of 10 times are generally spewing bullshit. But this guy is actually telling us something which is a relatively unknown phenomena and actually correct.

Scientifically it is true that methane is a more harmful gas than CO2 when it comes to greenhouse effect.

Every cow has bacteria in its gut that help digest the cow's
food, but also produce a gas called methane in the process. Methane is called
a "greenhouse gas" because it traps heat in the atmosphere like carbon-
dioxide. So if you add up hundreds of burps from millions of cows, you get a
lot of methane going into the atmosphere, which is just one of many sources of air pollution.

Neither is it in OP's power to ban eating of beef throughout the world nor his intention but his statement was not stupid (although to an ignorant person it may look like that). He is just expressing his point of view and suggesting a method. He never said it was the best one available but it is definitely a good one. ( I would hate it since I also eat beef Burger King's King Burger is amazing :))

It is sometimes sad that even educated people sometimes don't research before commenting. I mean if I would read this article and I didn't know about this first thing I would do is type "cows greenhouse effect" in Google and will get enough knowledge to be able to comment on it.

But if its just a flame war cause it was an Indian minister well then I rest my case.
 
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