Shrinking liberalism: When truth becomes Truth

[Pakistani E]

But they claim to be liberals, don't they? It's like when we see Islamic fundamentalists. They claim to be Muslims and doing things in the name of God and Islam, but they commit crimes totally un-Islamic.

Which liberals? And don't bring Islam in to this. No one here has blamed Islam here, I myself am a MUSLIM. Now bring me the list of liberal terrorists.

 

[Hiptullha]

Which liberals? And don't bring Islam in to this. No one here has blamed Islam here, I myself am a MUSLIM. Now bring me the list of liberal terrorists.

Of course, I can't name Communist/Leftist/Socialist terrorists who claimed to be liberal, claimed to be progressive, shared the same beliefs as many liberals did on education, healthcare, etc.

 

[Pakistani E]

Of course, I can't name Communist/Leftist/Socialist terrorists who claimed to be liberal, claimed to be progressive, shared the same beliefs as many liberals did on education, healthcare, etc.

Oh I do hope you know Liberalism is a much more broader concept than just education and healthcare. A Liberal terrorist is an oxy moron, liberalism is the belief that allows people to choose their own paths. Why would any self declared liberal even go out and force someone to follow their ideology?

Just accept the fact that right wing religious fascists have done more harm to Pakistan than any liberal can ever do.

 

[Hiptullha]

Oh I do hope you know is a much more broader concept than just education and healthcare. A Liberal terrorist is an oxy moron, liberalism is the belief that allows people to choose their own paths. Why would any self declared liberal even go out and force someone to follow their ideology?
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"They do not conform to the standard I have made, so they cannot be that."

Quit denying.

Just accept the fact that right wing religious fascists have done more harm to Pakistan than any liberal can ever do.

Zia wasn't plundering the funds and created ethnic tensions, was he? He wasn't shooting kids in Bangladesh, neither was he breaking apart the economy.

 

[Pakistani E]

"They do not conform to the standard I have made, so they cannot be that."

Quit denying.



Zia wasn't plundering the funds and created ethnic tensions, was he? He wasn't shooting kids in Bangladesh, neither was he breaking apart the economy.

Quit denying what? I am still waiting for the list of liberal terrorists.

You want to know who was raping and killing in Bangladesh? Jamat e Islam made badr/shams squads. Recall if you do, the ideology of Jamat e Islami.

 

[Hiptullha]

You want to know who was raping and killing in Bangladesh? Jamat e Islam made badr/shams squads. Recall if you do, the ideology of Jamat e Islami.

Ordered out by Mr. Socialist and the army men you seem to glorify.

Quit denying what? I am still waiting for the list of liberal terrorists.

Just take a look at the Khmer Rouge.

 

[Developereo]

Which liberals are these? I have yet to see such public actions of liberals jumping for joy every time a drone hits. The fact of the matter is, it is not the liberals who have killed over 40,000 Pakistanis. It is right wing extremists and their conservative allies. Stop blaming liberals for the crimes of right wing religious fascists.

Pakistani liberals are apologists for the civilians casualties and some even blame the civilians.

YOU may live in an intellectual vacuum but it doesn't mean others will excuse your intellectual dishonesty.

Liberalism is about the views and principles one supports; it is not a fancy label that someone can attach to themselves just because they like the sound of it. I already gave examples above where Pakistani so-called "liberals" deviate from the principles of liberalism.

Many Pakistani so-called "liberals" are just as fascist as the Islamist fanatics.

 

[Pakistani E]

Ordered out by Mr. Socialist and the army men you seem to glorify.



Just take a look at the Khmer Rouge.

Do you understand the difference between communism and Liberalism? It certainly seems you don't, otherwise you would not have made a silly correlation by bringing up socialism or the Khmer regime. With all due respect, your education standards seem to be at par with Orya Maqbool Jans, I suggest you go study Communism, Socialism and liberalism before attempting to discuss further.

Pakistani liberals are apologists for the civilians casualties and some even blame the civilians.

YOU may live in an intellectual vacuum but it doesn't mean others will excuse your intellectual dishonesty.

Liberalism is about the views and principles one supports; it is not a fancy label that someone can attach to themselves just because they like the sound of it. I already gave examples above where Pakistani so-called "liberals" deviate from the principles of liberalism.

Many Pakistani so-called "liberals" are just as fascist as the Islamist fanatics.

No example still from either of you about this mythical Pakistani liberal cheering drone strikes.

You don't need to lecture me on what Liberalism is, the moment anyone equates a liberal to a religious fascist I automatically assume they don't know what they are talking about and have taken the definition of a liberal from Zaid Hamid or Orya Maqbool Jan. Have a nice day.

 

[Hiptullha]

Do you understand the difference between communism and Liberalism? It certainly seems you don't, otherwise you would not have made a silly correlation by bringing up socialism or the Khmer regime. With all due respect, your education standards seem to be at par with Orya Maqbool Jans, I suggest you go study Communism, Socialism and liberalism before attempting to discuss further.

They are leftist ideologies. But they aren't liberal, that is true.