Show proof of Indian role in Balochistan: Pakistani panel

[Bhairava]

Proof has been provided to the US as well of India's involvement in Balochistan through Afghanistan, & this has been admitted by US MPs.

Is it ? Prove.

As far as I remember, Nawaz Sharif saying there was a possibility that Kasab was a Pakistani. He was giving his opinion. Sarabjit Singh was caught red handed in Pakistan as well, & there are many Indian terrorists like him caught in Pakistan, in KPK, Punjab & Balochistan.

Lol..a possiblity by arse. He is on record accpeting that Kasab was a pakistani national from Faridkot.

"It has been said this individual named Ajmal Kasab hails from Faridkot village. I have seen and I personally got this checked the village and its surrounding areas were cordoned off. His parents are not being allowed to meet anyone," he told Geo News in an interview.

"What was the need to do this? If (Kasab) is not involved (in the Mumbai attacks), then he is not involved. People should be allowed to meet everyone in that area," Sharif said adding "All this points to the fact that we too need to set our house in order."

Link

Another link (I mentioned this link because you mentioned Geo & Nawaz):

Ajmal Kasab has no link to Pakistan: FBI - GEO.tv

Former Prime Minster of Pakistan >>>> a team of unnamed FBI officials.

Answered above. The proof has been shown, & admitted by US officials.

Admitted ?? where ??

Where is the video of the senators you were threatening to unleash ?

 

[Bhairava]

Indian Minister Antulay saying Hindu extremists responsible for Mumbai attacks:

Antulay seeks probe into Karkare's killing - Times Of India

Conspircy theories ? No wonder one wise man said "Islam is not the state religion of Pakistan, denial is".

The Hindu : Front Page : Don't play politics: Kavita Karkare

Kavita Karkare rubbishes Digvijay commentsKavita Karkare rubbishes Digvijay comments

why pakistan do not handover the evidence to the Indian Government ???

why they don't raise the question on international platform when they do not miss point to raise kashmir issue ??

why they don't call the meeting of OIC against Indian sponsored terrorsim in balouchistan ??

In a nutshell either they don't have evidence or they do not care about the civilians.. in both the cases it is shameful

One word - There is no proof.

This is just to mislead the common Pakistani to think that India is the reason for unrest in B'tan and not the highhandedness, kidnapping, roadside dumping of the innocent Baloch by the Army/FC.

And going by this thread, it has worked wonderfully well.

 

[53fd]

Conspircy theories ? No wonder one wise man said "Islam is not the state religion of Pakistan, denial is".

The Hindu : Front Page : Don't play politics: Kavita Karkare

Kavita Karkare rubbishes Digvijay commentsKavita Karkare rubbishes Digvijay comments

What conspiracy theories? These are the words of an Indian Minister that served at that time. What does Nawaz Sharif's opinion mean, he wasn't even part of the government when he gave his opinion about Ajmal Kasab.

Btw, where did Nawaz Sharif in this video say Ajmal Kasab is Pakistani????? He never said Kasab was Pakistani, the Indian media were making up stuff as usual!!!!!!

 

[Trisonics]

Proofs of Indian involvement in Balochistan:

MPs told Russia, India and UAE involved in Baloch insurgency – The Express Tribune

Proof of Indian involvement in unrest in Pakistan presented | Asian Tribune

If any of you watch the US Senate hearings, you will see that US senators & MPs have admitted that India has played a part in the destabilization of Balochistan from Afghanistan. I'll post those videos soon, although whoever watches US Senate hearings knows they go on for hours & hours.

Billal, the so called "proof" has been talked about a million times, even before you stepped into this forum. Pakistan has time and again yelled "we have proof" and even once claimed "truck loads of proof"(look it up). Our only response, ok, so where is it?

One must also ask oneself which sovereign nation inspite of having these truck loads of proof sits quietly without doing anything about it. You have a military, there are agencies you can submit them too..lastly, you have India you can show those to us....What is the point of holding on to them and whine?

This looks worse than a lolly movie's script. Just like how some people say 1 Pakistani = 10 Indians, but then whats the use? Yo have the proof but...all tussssssssss

 

[Bhairava]

What conspiracy theories? These are the words of an Indian Minister that served at that time. What does Nawaz Sharif's opinion mean, he wasn't even part of the government when he gave his opinion about Ajmal Kasab.
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You peddled a stupid conspiracy theory and got busted.

Here is your Interior Minister saying Non State Actors from Pakistan were involved.

He emphasized that friendship and communication with India was important, pointing out that "within few days, we (Pakistan) not only identified non-state actors involved in the heinous crime in Bombay, we arrested them. They are on trial."

Pakistan minister Rehman Malik: Nobody should dare to hit our sovereignty

How can you arrest someone in Pakistan if Hindu righwingers were involved

Here is Qureshi admitting the same,

Non State Terror involved Mumbai Attacks: Qureshi



BTW lets stop going offtopic and concentrate on Balochistan

 

[53fd]

Billal, the so called "proof" has been talked about a million times, even before you stepped into this forum. Pakistan has time and again yelled "we have proof" and even once claimed "truck loads of proof"(look it up). Our only response, ok, so where is it?

One must also ask oneself which sovereign nation inspite of having these truck loads of proof sits quietly without doing anything about it. You have a military, there are agencies you can submit them too..lastly, you have India you can show those to us....What is the point of holding on to them and whine?

This looks worse than a lolly movie's script. Just like how some people say 1 Pakistani = 10 Indians, but then whats the use? Yo have the proof but...all tussssssssss

Read Post # 10 for your proof, looks like you missed it.

 

[53fd]

You peddled a stupid conspiracy theory and got busted.

What do you mean I got busted? Your Indian minister is saying Hindutva extremists were responsible for 26/11, not a conspiracy theorist.

Here is your Interior Minister saying Non State Actors from Pakistan were involved.

Pakistan minister Rehman Malik: Nobody should dare to hit our sovereignty

Again, the word of Pakistan's minister is the same as the India's minister. By the way, the statement that Ajmal Kasab was Pakistani was retracted a few days later, & then looked up for his information in NADRA, & they found no record of him on the national database.

 

[Trisonics]

Read Post # 10 for your proof, looks like you missed it.

Wow!! that is solid proof indeed . Now, re-read my post. What are you doing with it? sitting on it? Is Pakistan not capable of taking any action?

 

[jetti]

Let me quote you some of the proof:



So, what proof does India have that the ISI had a part in the Mumbai attacks, or the 2002 parliamentarian attacks?

boss Pasha was the one who orchestrated mumbai 26/11. so how can i believe him

 

[Bhairava]

What do you mean I got busted? Your Indian minister is saying Hindutva extremists were responsible for 26/11, not a conspiracy theorist.

Then that guy was a conspiracy theorist who rambled something in face of overwhelming proof of the sat phone intercepts of terrorists speaking to their handlers in Karachi, a live Pakistani national in custody, the man who recced the site confessing to involvement of a ISI Major etc.

Again, the word of Pakistan's minister is the same as the India's minister. By the way, the statement that Ajmal Kasab was Pakistani was retracted a few days later, & then looked up for his information in NADRA, & they found no record of him on the national database.

Just like how Saleem Shezad's call records went mysteriously missing and then suddenly coming back after an uproar.

Really this is hilarious !

Again don't go offtopic. Concentrate on Balochistan.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The thread is going the way any thread that accuses one nation or the other for 'perpetrating terrorism' will go - 'provide evidence'.

The Indian posters have to accept the fact that when it comes to 'providing evidence indicating State Complicity in terrorism' neither India nor the US have provided any credible evidence in support of claims that the ISI/PA supports the Taliban, Embassy bombings, Parliament attacks or Mumbai attacks.

One poster stated that Indian sent 'dozens of dossiers to Pakistan', but what exactly does that mean? One could send 'hundreds of dossiers' full of rubbish - that doesn't count as actual evidence in support of claims that the ISI/PA had anything to do with the Mumbai attacks or any other attacks on civilians in India.

Indians and Pakistanis need to come up with a consistent stance here - if you are going to demand one country to provide evidence to support allegations of support for terrorism, then you need to apply the same standard to your own country as well.

I'll leave the thread open for a few more responses related to my argument specifically, of both sides arriving at a consistent position on these back and forth allegations.

 

[SpArK]

Pakistani panel asking Pakistanis to show the Indian proof @balochistan issue.

What are Indian members arguing about?

Its their internal issue.Lets just wait and watch.

 

[Bhairava]

The thread is going the way any thread that accuses one nation or the other for 'perpetrating terrorism' will go - 'provide evidence'.

The Indian posters have to accept the fact that when it comes to 'providing evidence indicating State Complicity in terrorism' neither India nor the US have provided any credible evidence in support of claims that the ISI/PA supports the Taliban, Embassy bombings, Parliament attacks or Mumbai attacks.

One poster stated that Indian sent 'dozens of dossiers to Pakistan', but what exactly does that mean? One could send 'hundreds of dossiers' full of rubbish - that doesn't count as actual evidence in support of claims that the ISI/PA had anything to do with the Mumbai attacks or any other attacks on civilians in India.

Indians and Pakistanis need to come up with a consistent stance here - if you are going to demand one country to provide evidence to support allegations of support for terrorism, then you need to apply the same standard to your own country as well.

I'll leave the thread open for a few more responses related to my argument specifically, of both sides arriving at a consistent position on these back and forth allegations.

Three things ,

First even if we were to accept that Pak State agencies were not involved in the Mumbai attacks, it has been proved beyond a shadow of doubt that the attackers were indeed Pakistanis and we have Zardari,Rehman Malik, Qureshi on record saying that those were fromj pakistan but were "non state actors".

Has any such person/ non state actor been caught red-handed in Balochistan ?

Secondly the allegation that dozens of dossiers sent were rubbish (even though no one has actually seen what bit contains ) atleast a dossier has been sent. Has Pak ,for all the vented hot air, sent one dossier about Indian involvement in Balochistan ? Let it be rubbish, but has it been sent ?


Thirdly we are not requesting any proofs, it is a Pakistani org that is requesting that. Provide them atleast - they are Pakistani citizens and convince them.

And if anyone wishes ton hide behind the facade that Pakistan was NOT involved in any single disturbance in neighboring countries , then no amount of same reasoning can convince such a person.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

It's simple isn't it........... everyone in india/pakistan will label the proof provided to them as rubbish........... While the other country will label any underwear/bottle wrapper as proof. If an independent agency investigates, their results shall be rejected by the indicted party as 'biased'. (example being sri lanka).

So all that matters is who you believe and who you don't.

 

[SpArK]

An evidence has to have the logistics network proofs, money transfer for amassing weaponry for attacks, communication links and transcripts, "credible" vocal admittance, motives , proofs regarding supply route if any and maybe even a human (captured) with ample connection with Indian agencies.

Until then the arguments like we saw AK-47 , INSAS (seriously?) are just another fairy tale.


Anyway the article is worth watching and Indians would like to know the outcome if any, such evidence is provided.
In-fact, a revelation on the unknown activities of the intelligence agencies.