Should we accept Sweden into NATO?

[Foinikas]

Macedonians were not GREEK.

Were they Japanese?

 

[Attila the Hun]

Were they Japanese?

They were FYROM

 

[Foinikas]

They were FYROM

Seljuks were black africans from Papua New Hamshire.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Seljuks were black africans from Papua New Hamshire.

And also Japanese .
They're called North Macedonians now. is that good for Greece or not?

 

[Foinikas]

And also Japanese .
They're called North Macedonians now. is that good for Greece or not?

It could have been good,but the problem is they don't keep their end of the deal. For example,they were supposed to completely stop using the term "Makedonija" and use "Severna Makedonja",as well as to stop indoctrinating their people about all this fake identity,but they ignore it.

Bulgarians are also angry at them because they have been claiming Bulgarian figures as well. They deny that they are Bulgarians,but their own arguements contradict what they say.

By the way,this historian was in that great Turkish documentary about the Balkan Wars.

 

[Attila the Hun]

It could have been good,but the problem is they don't keep their end of the deal. For example,they were supposed to completely stop using the term "Makedonija" and use "Severna Makedonja",as well as to stop indoctrinating their people about all this fake identity,but they ignore it.

Bulgarians are also angry at them because they have been claiming Bulgarian figures as well. They deny that they are Bulgarians,but their own arguements contradict what they say.

By the way,this historian was in that great Turkish documentary about the Balkan Wars.

The first video, why so much slapping? Is she saying Macedonia is not Greek?

 

[Foinikas]

Lol no,wrong link,that was from an old Greek movie. A Pakistani friend of mine likes that scene because it makes the feminists go crazy

The first video, why so much slapping? Is she saying Macedonia is not Greek?

I edited the post

 

[Samar111]

It has a maritime border with Russia, opposite Kalinigrad, an area with 100,000 Russian troops and plenty of nuclear weapons.
The aerial violations of Swedish airspace by Russian planes are continuous, lately, in fact, Russian planes are carrying nuclear missiles.


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Maritime border? Only 100k troops? Why would any country be scared of 100k troops. Thats nothing. Talk about being pussies. Why is Mongolia not scared of Russia?

 

[Akritas]

Maritime border? Only 100k troops? Why would any country be scared of 100k troops. Thats nothing. Talk about being pussies. Why is Mongolia not scared of Russia?

The Russian army, under conventional firepower, is stronger than all its neighbors. So it is not a matter of numbers of soldiers. While, you also forgot the Russian nuclear weapons that exist.
Why Mongolia is not afraid of Russia, ask a Mongol.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

June 28, 2022 Russia-Ukraine news

Ukraine has requested a meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss a deadly Russian strike on a shopping mall in Kremenchuk. Ukraine's President called it "one of the most defiant terrorist acts in European history." Follow live updates.

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Turkey signs trilateral memorandum with Finland and Sweden​

From CNN's Isil Sariyuce in Istanbul

Turkey confirmed it signed a trilateral memorandum with Finland and Sweden Tuesday supporting their NATO membership bids, agreeing Helsinki and Stockholm will not provide support to the Kurdish People's Protection Units, also known as YPG, which Turkey views as a terrorist organization, according to the Turkish presidency.
Turkey said it extends its full support to Finland and Sweden against threats to their national security.
The Turkish statement said Finland and Sweden also confirmed the separatist militant Kurdistan's Workers Party, also known as PKK, which Turkey, the US and EU consider a terrorist organization, is a "proscribed terrorist organization" and commit to prevent activities" of the PKK and all other terrorist organizations and their extensions"
Turkey added the three countries agreed on not having national arms embargoes between them.
Turkey, Finland and Sweden committed to establishing an intelligence sharing mechanism to scale up counterterrorism operations and to combat organized crime. The countries agreed Finland and Sweden will address Turkey's pending deportation or extradition requests of terror suspects "expeditiously and thoroughly."
Finland and Sweden agreed to investigate and interdict any financing and recruitment activities of the PKK -considered a terrorist organization by Turkey, the US and the EU.
"Turkey confirms its long-standing support for NATO's Open Door policy, and agrees to support at the 2022 Madrid Summit the invitation of Finland and Sweden to become members of NATO," the memorandum signed by Turkey read.

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So, basically the arms embargo will be lifted, and there will be some intelligence sharing. The extradition requests will get reviewed, but no change of rules.
Sweden already is branding PKK as a terrorist organisation.
It is not sending funds to YPG.
It is already against the law in Sweden to send funds to PKK, or to recruit for PKK.

 

[dBSPL]

June 28, 2022 Russia-Ukraine news

Ukraine has requested a meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss a deadly Russian strike on a shopping mall in Kremenchuk. Ukraine's President called it "one of the most defiant terrorist acts in European history." Follow live updates.

edition.cnn.com

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So, basically the arms embargo will be lifted, and there will be some intelligence sharing. The extradition requests will get reviewed, but no change of rules.
Sweden already is branding PKK as a terrorist organisation.
It is not sending funds to YPG.
It is already against the law in Sweden to send funds to PKK, or to recruit for PKK.

Turkiye has revealed its reservations. The legitimacy of these reservations has been acknowledged by your country's government in the presence of the NATO secretary general. And upon this agreement, a memorandum was signed.

If Sweden continues to support terrorism by acting against the spirit of the memorandum and throwing different excuses, the Turkish National Assembly, which is the final decision maker on this issue, will also reject the resolution on this issue.

The ball is now in your court. Your own destiny will be determined by your own actions.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Turkiye has revealed its reservations. The legitimacy of these reservations has been acknowledged by your country's government in the presence of the NATO secretary general. And upon this agreement, a memorandum was signed.

If Sweden continues to support terrorism by acting against the spirit of the memorandum and throwing different excuses, the Turkish National Assembly, which is the final decision maker on this issue, will also reject the resolution on this issue.

The ball is now in your court. Your own destiny will be determined by your own actions.

Sweden did not support terrorism in the first place, and maybe Erdogan was made to realize this.

 

[Dalit]

Sweden did not support terrorism in the first place, and maybe Erdogan was made to realize this.

Yes you did. Your country has provided refuge to certain terrorist figures. Turkey has clarified this and is now seeking extradition of terrorist figures.

Nato summit: Turkey pushes Finland and Sweden on extradition after deal

It calls for the handover of 33 "terror" suspects after a deal to let Finland and Sweden join Nato.

www.bbc.com

 

[musti]

Sweden did not support terrorism in the first place, and maybe Erdogan was made to realize this.

Maybe not direct but PKK collects money freely and harboring in Sweeden as well as Finland and buys weapons to kill our security forces.

Turkiye many times requested from Sweeden not to let collect money by PKK.

Sweeden and Finland refused thei demand.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Maybe not direct but PKK collects money freely and harboring in Sweeden as well as Finland and buys weapons to kill our security forces.

Turkiye many times requested from Sweeden not to let collect money by PKK.

Sweeden and Finland refused thei demand.

It is against Swedish law to collect and send money to PKK.