El Sidd
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This is from the same person who once claimed Germany and Japan shared a physical border during the 2nd world war..
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Are you still blind and deaf to what was done?atrocities in east Pakistan were committed by Mukti Bahni and later by indian army mostly to silence those who were in Pakistan's favor. his reminder or reference to it is to warn people of Pakistan that his party is also capable of that if people are hell bent to favor Pakistan over him.
This is as stupid and as resistant to reality as it gets. It is because of this horrible attitude that the people of East Pakistan decided they wanted no more of Pakistan.Two sides of the situation properly conveyed in this post.
How much more could the man have bent to accommodate the idea of Pakistan, and to assure those who needed assurance that the Awami League was not against Pakistan?
So he didn't.Since he knew that atrocities were committed in Bangladesh during 1971 by Pak army, he should have apologized for it while he was in the office.
So he didn't.
So?
How does it affect India? Or Indians who are not of Bangladeshi descent?
তোর কি আসে যায়?
That you have every right to do. I don't have to like it, but you needn't bother about that. It won't be a hindrance to your posting your opinion.That’s the closure Bangladesh is looking for. And this guy - an ex PM - happens to accept the atrocities after all.
I never said it does. Just expressing my opinion.
Point is, he didn't, when he was PM. Not much point in raking this up now. Especially from the Indian point of view. This is something between the Pakistanis and the Bangladeshis. Of course, as you have said in your own post, any Indian may share his opinion of the proceedings freely. Just that we are effectively sitting on the sidelines of a private conversation; India and Indians have no voice in that conversation.That’s the closure Bangladesh is looking for. And this guy - an ex PM - happens to accept the atrocities after all.
Mujib had no backing from either India or Soviet Russia until long after Operation Searchlight. Your information is sadly defective.Mujeeb was backed by India and The Soviets financially and militarily as admitted by Russians themselves.
Even during his epochal speech on Ramna Maidan, Mujib identified himself and the whole of East Pakistan as integral parts of Pakistan. What he got as a reward was a massacre under Tikka Khan, on orders from Yahya Khan, who promised Mujib a solution at his meeting with him in Dhaka, and then flew back to West Pakistan, after ordering the crackdown.Mujeeb disintegrated Pakistan for whatever reasons and if that’s what Imran khan wants than I have no sympathy left for this man.
What???????????????atrocities in east Pakistan were committed by Mukti Bahni and later by indian army mostly to silence those who were in Pakistan's favor. his reminder or reference to it is to warn people of Pakistan that his party is also capable of that if people are hell bent to favor Pakistan over him.
Mukti Bahimi members has been receiving training in India long before any thing between Mujeeb and army had gone south, long before the elections were held. Awami party has been sending soldiers across the border in India to receive military training alongside Indian army. While the soviets conducted propaganda and psychological warfare. It was the reason why Pakistan army was irked, mujeeb was playing a double game. If you ignore the propaganda and study the issue unbiasedly you ll certainly come across the truth.Mujib had no backing from either India or Soviet Russia until long after Operation Searchlight. Your information is sadly defective.
Even during his epochal speech on Ramna Maidan, Mujib identified himself and the whole of East Pakistan as integral parts of Pakistan. What he got as a reward was a massacre under Tikka Khan, on orders from Yahya Khan, who promised Mujib a solution at his meeting with him in Dhaka, and then flew back to West Pakistan, after ordering the crackdown.
So less of that 'disintegrated Pakistan'.
It was the West Pakistanis who disintegrated Pakistan.
So now Mr Khan considers himself Sheikh Mujeeb. Which means he is ready to break Pakistan for his goals? That’s insane. Whatever hope that I had for Imran is all gone. He’s turned into an enemy of the state.
However
1.Mujeeb was not given power after securing majority seats in the parliament while khan ruled for 3.5 years and voted out through the parliament
2. Mujeeb was backed by India and The Soviets financially and militarily as admitted by Russians themselves.
3. There are no atrocities being committed against an ethnicity here nor are they being marginalised. On the contrary it’s his party who is destroying public property and undermining the military and state.
Mujeeb disintegrated Pakistan for whatever reasons and if that’s what Imran khan wants than I have no sympathy left for this man.
Bangabandhu never intended to break Pakistan. His 7th March speech was a rally against Yahya's tyranny and establishment of equal rights for East Pakistan.Mujib had no backing from either India or Soviet Russia until long after Operation Searchlight. Your information is sadly defective.
Even during his epochal speech on Ramna Maidan, Mujib identified himself and the whole of East Pakistan as integral parts of Pakistan. What he got as a reward was a massacre under Tikka Khan, on orders from Yahya Khan, who promised Mujib a solution at his meeting with him in Dhaka, and then flew back to West Pakistan, after ordering the crackdown.
So less of that 'disintegrated Pakistan'.
It was the West Pakistanis who disintegrated Pakistan.
Where did you get these fairy tales? I was there at the time, the son of a father in a senior position in the decision making at the state. East Pakistanis were treated as hostiles, and during the 1965 conflict, there were skirmishes on both sides of the border, the Bengal side and the Assam/Tripura side, between Indian armed police and the East Pakistan Rifles led by a Pakistan Army brigadier named Torgul.Mukti Bahimi members has been receiving training in India long before any thing between Mujeeb and army had gone south, long before the elections were held. Awami party has been sending soldiers across the border in India to receive military training alongside Indian army.
just what is your agenda?atrocities in east Pakistan were committed by Mukti Bahni and later by indian army mostly to silence those who were in Pakistan's favor. his reminder or reference to it is to warn people of Pakistan that his party is also capable of that if people are hell bent to favor Pakistan over him.
Once again, don't talk nonsense. We heard - my mother and I - the speech made by Mujib after his meeting with Yahya, the day after the speech. There was no Indian propaganda about events in East Pakistan at the time, only hostile reports. Afterwards, Indian stories dwelt on the pathetic state of the 10 million refugees who swamped the frontiers and deposited themselves wherever they had crossed, until shelters were hurriedly built for them. Subsequent Indian narratives were naturally full of the march on Dhaka, and (from another personal but highly authoritative source) about the suicidal exploits of Bangladeshi frogmen against the East Pakistani ports.what your basing your argument on plain indian and Awami league propaganda so I’d advise you research unbiasedly to find out the truth.
His speeches, writings and published words amply bear this out.Bangabandhu never intended to break Pakistan. His 7th March speech was a rally against Yahya's tyranny and establishment of equal rights for East Pakistan.
100% right, speaking as an observer from the distance of Calcutta.(1) Awami League does it to undermine Tajuddin's cabinet in exile and cope with their guilt from the fact that the wider Awami League leadership including Bangabandhu contributing little to the Liberation War. If you notice, most of Awami League's top leaders were adults at the time but the majority did not take part in the war. In the lead up to Op Searchlight starting 25th March 1971, Bangabandhu was repeatedly warned by Tajuddin, lower level Awami League activists and serving Bengali miltary personnel that a military crackdown was impending yet he refused to declare independence.
BB was adamant to keep negotiating with the Establishment due to his staunch loyalty to Pakistan - this is a very inconvenient truth for Awami League hence they push the false and comical narrative of BB magically getting hold of an EPR radio and declaring independence right before his arrest on 25th.
BB's love for Pakistan is also evident by his lack of interest in prosecuting war criminals and strong desire to quickly normalise relations between Bangladesh and Pakistan post seperation.