Should Pakistan Try to Lease a Turkish Type 209 Submarine?

[FuturePAF]

Pakistan's 3 Agosta 90B Submarines are shouldering the burden of defending the coastline. The 2 Agosta 70s are basically museum pieces that shouldn't be used because they risk the lives of the crews; due to their age much less their antiquated technology

Pakistan has always tried to acquire a qualitative edge over the Indians where it can. if Pakistan at least leases one if not two upgraded Turkish type 209 submarines; it can fill a gap; while learning about a different design philosophy when designing its future submarine with the Chinese (s-20) and also learn about a type the Indian navy operates

a 5 year lease of two of these submarines could be a smart stop-gap measure; especially if Pakistan can get them at a reasonable price

Should Pakistan approach turkey about this?

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

I think it would be brilliant Idea after all by that time our six submarines will be ready...

 

[Zarvan]

8 are coming from China 3 Augusta 90 we already have after having 11 AIP submarine we now need to go for at least two nuclear submarines

 

[GR!FF!N]

what is the age of Type-209 of Turkish navy???

India has some of the similar class,and they're nearly 30 years old.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

what is the age of Type-209 of Turkish navy???

India has some of the similar class,and they're nearly 30 years old.

They have 14 of these. 6 Are older than our oldest Type 209.

 

[Archie]

With Russia breathing down Erdogan's neck
And with NATO unlikely to come to its rescue in case of a Russian Invasion

Turkey might Just ask PN to lease 1 Agosta 90B sub
Along with 2 Sqds of F16 with 40-50 Brave pilots

 

[Gen Padmanabhan]

Pakistan's 3 Agosta 90B Submarines are shouldering the burden of defending the coastline. The 2 Agosta 70s are basically museum pieces that shouldn't be used because they risk the lives of the crews; due to their age much less their antiquated technology

Pakistan has always tried to acquire a qualitative edge over the Indians where it can. if Pakistan at least leases one if not two upgraded Turkish type 209 submarines; it can fill a gap; while learning about a different design philosophy when designing its future submarine with the Chinese (s-20) and also learn about a type the Indian navy operates

a 5 year lease of two of these submarines could be a smart stop-gap measure; especially if Pakistan can get them at a reasonable price

Should Pakistan approach turkey about this?

Without asking from OEM?

 

[T-123456]

Russian Invasion

In what kind of dreamworld do you live?

 

[Blue Marlin]

Turkish industry officials have told Defense News they are ready to offer Pakistan Type-209s if asked.

Turkey, one of Pakistan's closest allies and strongest defense industry partners, shelved its plans to upgrade its six Type-209/1200 Atilay class subs with AIP systems in favor of acquiring the Type-214.

However, Pakistani defense industry officials have said Islamabad would prefer a newer design.

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mind you a stop gap lease is not needed as pakistan is not going to war tommorow.

 

[Baybars Han]

We will retire our old type 209 when the type 214 joins the navy, in a few years.

 

[Basel]

Turkish industry officials have told Defense News they are ready to offer Pakistan Type-209s if asked.

Turkey, one of Pakistan's closest allies and strongest defense industry partners, shelved its plans to upgrade its six Type-209/1200 Atilay class subs with AIP systems in favor of acquiring the Type-214.

However, Pakistani defense industry officials have said Islamabad would prefer a newer design.

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mind you a stop gap lease is not needed as pakistan is not going to war tommorow.

What 209s can offer Pakistan Even if those are MLUed and modernized?

Some time ago PN was looking 2-3 used western subs to retire 70s which are pretty old now.

 

[Blue Marlin]

What 209s can offer Pakistan Even if those are MLUed and modernized?

Some time ago PN was looking 2-3 used western subs to retire 70s which are pretty old now.

turkey is building type 214's they can be built and sold on to pakistan if required. you wanted them originally, so why not, help your turkish bro's out, and get some milgems whilst your there, as you need them too.

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

nothing wrong if the lease amount is too low...It will only increase PN strength..
It is always better to have something instead of nothing..

 

[aanshu001]

at present scenario Turkey need to lease some systems

 

[Imtiaz_Sarwar]

With Russia breathing down Erdogan's neck
And with NATO unlikely to come to its rescue in case of a Russian Invasion

Turkey might Just ask PN to lease 1 Agosta 90B sub
Along with 2 Sqds of F16 with 40-50 Brave pilots

An interesting line of thought. Right now it is speculation but what if it turns out that way ?