Should Pakistan do Surgical Strikes in IOK?

[SQ8]

Have already demonstrated the ability to do that in broad daylight.

 

[BATMAN]

A nation at war does not do that.

A nation at war comply with the dead line of returning PoW in dark.

Did UK or US during WW2 put a general in charge of the country and stop the civilian government?

I speak for Pakistan vs India not rest of the world.
In rest of the world, only retired army people are allowed to hold office and secret agencies control all, while head of states are just customary.
We are a corrupt nation and so are politicians.

Fauji Foundation.

Fauji Foundation is contributing to the national development, and is yet another proof that a General shall be at helm of state affairs.

 

[TsAr]

What did Indian so called surgical strike achieve and what will Pakistan achieve with their own surgical strike?

 

[TheTallGuy]

@Armchair

what is stopping Pakistan? why there is no heavy or light exchange at CFL (Notice i used the word CFL not LOC). its too calm why?

what do you think?

Waiting game....

Sir jee, what are they waiting for? UN? UNSC? Sauds & muslim world - world pressure what else?

Actually there is a saying "Mushkil waqt main apno main Ghair or Ghairon main apnay pata lag jatay hain"

What type of waiting game is this?

 

[MastanKhan]

@Armchair

what is stopping Pakistan? why there is no heavy or light exchange at CFL (Notice i used the word CFL not LOC). its too calm why?

what do you think?


Sir jee, what are they waiting for? UN? UNSC? Sauds & muslim world - world pressure what else?

Actually there is a saying "Mushkil waqt main apno main Ghair or Ghairon main apnay pata lag jatay hain"

What type of waiting game is this?

Hi,

India does not need to do any strikes---. It has already done what it needed to do---.

 

[TheTallGuy]

Hi,
India does not need to do any strikes---. It has already done what it needed to do---.

Mastan Sb, yes they have done they could have done..but are we seeing military escalation? i am afraid not. no heavy flying on our side..no heavy troops movement - not even exchange on CFL is not happening.

why these normal things that happened in every flare up since 1999 are not happening do you find it dangerous..i find it far far more dangerous...we are in to the territory on unknown..we cant not forecast between known unknowns.

Its an honest question

@Mangus Ortus Novem
a bit off topic. . but i noticed all wars we had i mean full scale war "not kargil" is it coincidence that every time a person having name "Khan" was the premier of Pakistan.

Interesting!

 

[M.AsfandYar]

Yarmouk was small battle in the ancient times by Arabs against a Roman army

Hain?
Sir with all due respect, Yarmouk was a large and very very IMPORTANT battle. The consequences of which echoed across the world throughout the centuries. Had it gone the other way, vast majority of muslim army wouldve been wiped out with no reserve to replace the losses and the world would be different place.

 

[SecularNationalist]

U guys need to be patient. War against enemies that outnumber u 8x bigger are not won with haste decisions. U need to outsmart your enemy. Just be patient for once our government and military is on the same page. We need foreign support before we do anything. Look at Kargil when we did it without any support. India has a facist government right now just let em try their own thing. They are bound to commit some sort of grave human rights violation in Kashmir and when they do we get justification. People here have been acting very dumb and impatient like a bunch of 10 year olds on this site. Remember in february u guys were all emotional calling for strikes that very second. The PAF stayed cool and calm and waiting till daylight and surprised the enemy. Same thing here it would be dumb to do anything when its expected.

Yup most people impatient and angry these days. Ambush or a element of surprise is a decisive factor in battle field.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Not you bro...half the forum is ready to eat each other alive!

Now, thanks to Modi, you have a common channel to vent it out...

 

[TheTallGuy]

Many things, brother mine!

Annexation of Kashmir before 14th August... putting the Creation/Idea of Pakistan under the knife. GangaDaesh has dared us.

I do believe if our 'rulers' follow The Jinnah Docotrine then we shall pervail... we did make Pakistan... now we are back to were we started... back to pre 1947 era... again fight for freedom or accept slavery.

Choice is existential.

Waiting Game!

Sir Jee, i have some possible scenarios why its so calm. existential threat if there is then why in current picture military ops are not apparent which should have been apparent. why go far in past 2008 PAF was flying over cities armed and ready, after 14th Feb till 26th Feb you have witnessed how much movement was there resolve was very much apparent.

what is the difference now?

These are some common sense reasons i come up with
1. Political Leadership has decided that war is out of the question. This is will be treated as diplomatically as its been treated for last 70 years.
2. Military has not enough confidence to reach the desire goals or they have not yet given the set of goals that is required to be fulfilled. again due to reason 1.
3. They are waiting for something which will give them excuse to execute the required task with 24-48 hours prep time after the go-head is given.(But for this they required heavies to move out which is not apparent..at all!)
4.The counter to point 3. Does india Plans to move ahead? which would have been apparent with there force mobilization. if they had any plans to invade Azad Kashmir...again we would have seen a very hot CFL. i believe india will not attack Pakistan they will keep the pressure and smile when out pressure Pakistan Rush In!

Share you input please.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hi,

India does not need to do any strikes---. It has already done what it needed to do---.

Now, Pak has to return the favor!!! But the million $ questions are how, when, where etc....

Sir Jee, i have some possible scenarios why its so calm. existential threat if there is then why in current picture military ops are not apparent which should have been apparent. why go far in past 2008 PAF was flying over cities armed and ready, after 14th Feb till 26th Feb you have witnessed how much movement was there resolve was very much apparent.

what is the difference now?

These are some common sense reasons i come up with
1. Political Leadership has decided that war is out of the question. This is will be treated as diplomatically as its been treated for last 70 years.
2. Military has not enough confidence to reach the desire goals or they have not yet given the set of goals that is required to be fulfilled. again due to reason 1.
3. They are waiting for something which will give them excuse to execute the required task with 24-48 hours prep time after the go-head is given.(But for this they required heavies to move out which is not apparent..at all!)
4.The counter to point 3. Does india Plans to move ahead? which would have been apparent with there force mobilization. if they had any plans to invade Azad Kashmir...again we would have seen a very hot CFL. i believe india will not attack Pakistan they will keep the pressure and smile when out pressure Pakistan Rush In!

Share you input please.

As for India, it’s up to the suggestions from the High Priest (aka Iblis)!!! Iblis, who is a regular at the Indian High Command’s ops meetings, has a great intelligence and intellect, no doubt about that, but he’s in short of Sabr and Shukr!!! And, he is a coward and opportunist to the core!!! Pak needs to leverage that....

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Hain?
Sir with all due respect, Yarmouk was a large and very very IMPORTANT battle. The consequences of which echoed across the world throughout the centuries. Had it gone the other way, vast majority of muslim army wouldve been wiped out with no reserve to replace the losses and the world would be different place.

still a battle .. one time event

I am not talking of significance and importance but the scale of things.

as for battles Badr was much more significant
it was a decider if Islam will exist or perish. but compared to what he is suggesting. it was a mere single day battle

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

In other words you are saying that we have accepted the ground reality and shall go through motions... thats what this hypothesis boils down to.

If such be case then the need to keep such a large army/airforce/navy/security apparatus become unnecessary... and we should move to BD model... a subserviant state under the GangaDaesh Sphere of Influence.

Interesting! This would suit NarcoLeague and PeePeeLeague very well...

However, if your hypothesis is correct then why do a 27the Feb in such fanfare and broad daylight to after announcing #WeShallSurpriseYou ..?

Afterall, it was a dead AgentCrow and a few trees. Why respond and have ganga loose 8 fighter jets as per your consistent contention?

Waiting Game!

Good things to those who wait!!!

Let us allow Time to unfold mysteries.​

From 02-26 to 02-28 analogies,

02-26: done via Kashmir fiasco
02-27: to be done at a “grand” scale
02-28: pass the ball to the Indian court

I have read somewhere IK’s speciality as a world class sportsman was in throwing balls...

 

[VCheng]

Hain?
Sir with all due respect, Yarmouk was a large and very very IMPORTANT battle. The consequences of which echoed across the world throughout the centuries. Had it gone the other way, vast majority of muslim army wouldve been wiped out with no reserve to replace the losses and the world would be different place.

An excellent example in its own right.

But, will the battle over Kashmir be fought with swords?

 

[M.AsfandYar]

still a battle .. one time event

I am not talking of significance and importance but the scale of things.

as for battles Badr was much more significant
it was a decider if Islam will exist or perish. but compared to what he is suggesting. it was a mere single day battle

It lasted 5 days sir.