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Should Pakistan do Surgical Strikes in IOK?

I agree with you based in prevalent sentiment of people of Kashmir...Either you guys should truely reflect your emotion and initiate war or if you do not want war and accordingly prepare sentiment of your citizen
 
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Pakistan should not do any surgical strike. Instead, it should let India burn because of its own mistakes. If you intervene, you will give India a scapegoat. If you analyze, Nirandra Modi would want this surgical strike from Pakistan as an excuse to keep the military and hide their carnage as war collateral.

So don't. Don't give Modi an excuse.

You live in fools paradise, how India will burn when Hindus love Modi and other minorities don't dare to stand up.
 
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Whatever we do or should not do, should not be in haste but well planned and executed. If we are going to war or preparing for war, we should do it properly. We should be buying up stocks of G3, old tanks, aircraft, ammo, etc. Until we see a national mobilisation, we should do nothing.
 
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we dont need to fight India unless forced to do so.
we need to improve our systems, sub systems and processes.
without them we cant fight any war with any body let alone india.
 
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This is just the beginning of Hindutuva!!! Even if Pak does nothing it’s gonna crumble down on its own weight!! My Indian Muslim neighbor’s 8th grade daughter is now asking why her great grand parents didn’t migrate to Pak!! They’re planning to sell their properties for they know it with 100% assurance they’re the next in the target!!! No Muslim can live with Namus and Izzet in India!! When folks reach that “nothing to lose” moment anything is possible....

Kufr continues, Zulm doesn’t...
 
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This is just the beginning of Hindutuva!!! Even if Pak does nothing it’s gonna crumble down on its own weight!! My Indian Muslim neighbor’s 8th grade daughter is now asking why her great grand parents didn’t migrate to Pak!! They’re planning to sell their properties for they know it with 100% assurance they’re the next in the target!!! No Muslim can live with Namus and Izzet in India!! When folks reach that “nothing to lose” moment anything is possible....

Kufr continues, Zulm doesn’t...

Muslims in India should band together and live in large, armed communities.

Wear them down maybe china can ( in isolation of rest of the world)
Not us

If Vietnam could, if in Yarmouk we could, we can. With the right strategy and planning.

Here is my take on whether Pakistan should go to war with India:

1). You may remember the news that Israel took the delivery of THAAD system few months. My conclusion at that time was that this war on terror is about to enter into a new phase.

2). Soon after that the US carrier strike group has been stationed within a striking distance of Iran. At one point it looked like that there will be a war, but it fizzled out. So much so that US even ignored the downing of one of its drones by Iran. Clearly, a conflict at that time did not coincide with the planning of military strategists. They are waiting for the "right time" to start the war.

3). Very recently, the US army has been allowed to be stationed inside KSA.

4). Now, out of the blue, this Kashmir issue has erupted.
For the reasons above, I am not prepared to look at it in isolation. It has long been known that neutralizing Pakistan is an important milestone to be achieved in order to achieve the objectives in the middle east. If Pakistan goes to war with India, and even if is not neutralized, she will definitely remain engaged for a significant time and will definitely become less resourced for another conflict. The next war to happen after the Pakistan and India war is the attack on Iran and then the middle east. Israel is very close to make an attack on Al-Aqsa mosque and start building the third temple. For this, Pakistan and Iran need to be taken care of.

Now, in the context of above four points, Pakistan MUST NOT go to war with India. In addition, a war with India counters the military strategy of Pakistan; i.e., to fight India without firing a bullet.

If Pakistan enters this war it cannot stop the events in the middle east, which is the main objective of those conducting the war on terror.

Nobody in the world feels Pak will go to war with Israel if they build the 3rd temple.
 
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I support to arm kashmiris and send talibans who will crush indian army in days arm them aith air to air and anti tank mines and rockets and you will se cowards will run away
 
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Harsh But true..for Pakistan to initiate war 3 x things are required.
1.Genocide in Kashmir.
2.Active armed resistance.
3.Mutiny in Indian Armed Forces.

at the moment all three have not happened.
 
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how about a stunt like this in IOK?
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let me remind all our pan-islamist brother hood supporters..no help is coming infact they are to support India at time of war.
Just look at today Saudi Signed $75 Billion agreement with india.

we are alone and we shall fight alone..and win!
 
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I agree with you based in prevalent sentiment of people of Kashmir...Either you guys should truely reflect your emotion and initiate war or if you do not want war and accordingly prepare sentiment of your citizen
India in my view has committed seemingly a political blunder. However the dynamics and timing of it points to greater games being played behind the scene. I agree this boils down to strife in the middle East. I also agree this will eventually lead to war in the subcontinent with disasterous consequences for the people of the Subcontinent and surrounding south East asian countries. However I disagree that there will ever be a war with Iran and the sabre rattling is just that and it will not progress beyond that. Iran is integral to this whole game and it will not be harmed in any way. People who want to understand my view point need to read the ahadeeth of the end of times to understand the grand designs.
I think Afghanistan will settle first before the war in the sub continent with establishment of a consensus govtt which will eventually be led by the Taliban. There maybe issues with the NA and if plausible NA might ally with Iran with the rest of Afghanistan becoming a state in its own rights. Howsoever you look at this these are times of extreme strife and hardships for the region. May Allah keep everyone safe. Ameen.
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When u put it like that then yea what i said sounds kinda heartless. But what other choice do we have? Making decisions emotionally rather than logically is a huge mistake. Lets at least wait until after the FATF meeting.
Pakistan has become kinda Majboristan due to economic conditions of the last three decades.
 
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