Should Pak learn from the past vis-a-vis Afghanistan?

[Asian.Century]

Mullah Akhtar Mansour’s possible distancing from Pakistani control and progressive reliance on Iran was not liked by the ISI's Taliban handlers. He was killed in a US drone attack in May 2016, inside Balochistan while on his way back from Iran. ( CIA + ISI coordination )

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lol... Maybe you should check the weather map of your country. Kinda, would-be, maybe...
You need a reality check. Central Asia is sparsely populated desert, you are overselling your importance for India as some connection to Central Asia. Its actually the Central Asians who want the trade route so that they can export their commodities to the 7th largest consumer market in the world. More than half of Afghans export goes to India. You guys never leveraged your position, in fact you leveraged it in the opposite direction denying Indian exports. But hey Pakistanis think everything from a security perspective, and being obsessed with it will make you run to IMF 22 times, and probably will declare bankruptcy.

Yuck! Do you think we want to add close to 600 million poor and unproductive people? Get outta here.

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[SkyWolf]

Lol... Maybe you should check the weather map of your country. Kinda, would-be, maybe...
You need a reality check. Central Asia is sparsely populated desert, you are overselling your importance for India as some connection to Central Asia. Its actually the Central Asians who want the trade route so that they can export their commodities to the 7th largest consumer market in the world. More than half of Afghans export goes to India. You guys never leveraged your position, in fact you leveraged it in the opposite direction denying Indian exports. But hey Pakistanis think everything from a security perspective, and being obsessed with it will make you run to IMF 22 times, and probably will declare bankruptcy.

Yuck! Do you think we want to add close to 600 million poor and unproductive people? Get outta here.

LALALALALALA Indians don't want "Azad Kashmir". It doesn't mean anything to us Indians. Cope.

The reality is that india is a nothing more than the world's largest open sewer. The bankruptcy of india is so severe that over 4 million indians recently died from coronavirus. Nearly 40% of the ENTIRE earth's most severely malnourished and extreme poor are indians. india is the biggest recipient of american aid. Over 732 million indians defecate in the open. india is now so poor that it receives famine relief from Kenya and other sub-saharn African nations...... :

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www.google.co.uk

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Excess deaths - those above expected levels - are a measure of the overall impact of the pandemic.

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The east African country has sent 12 tonnes of tea, coffee and groundnut produced locally to the Indian Red Cross Society.

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like i said: highest ego per unit of accomlishment

 

[Chakar The Great]

Pakistan needs to look inward and focus on "Geo economics".


No need for insurgency in Kashmir. A stronger Pakistan is in the interest of Pakistan, China and Kashmir.

 

[Chhatrapati]

LALALALALALA Indians don't want "Azad Kashmir". It doesn't mean anything to us Indians. Cope.

Indians would settle today with LOC as border offer is on table. That said, you are the one coping with the imaginary central asian access story. Give me one instance where India tried to take over AJk or GB from Pak, vs you tried to take Kashmir Cope

Pakistan needs to look inward and focus on "Geo economics".


No need for insurgency in Kashmir. A stronger Pakistan is in the interest of Pakistan, China and Kashmir.

Too little too late. Do you think you can simply switch off those gun wielding yahoos you created for Kashmir. Azhar, Salahudeen, Hafiz saeed and their organizations are deeply entrenched in your society. You couldn't even control the TLP that wants ambassador of a faraway country like France, out.

 

[Chakar The Great]

Too little too late. Do you think you can simply switch off those gun wielding yahoos you created for Kashmir. Azhar, Salahudeen, Hafiz saeed and their organizations are deeply entrenched in your society. You couldn't even control the TLP that wants ambassador of a faraway country like France, out.

Lol all these are not a problem for Pakistan any more. Yes they are pain in the rare for India and will continue to remain so.

TLP is nothing, its not even 1/10000th of what RSS is. Which has taken over the government, military, judiciary and media in India. You better worry about India.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Lol all these are not a problem for Pakistan any more. Yes they are pain in the rare for India and will continue to remain so.

TLP is nothing, its not even 1/10000th of what RSS is. Which has taken over the government, military, judiciary and media in India. You better worry about India.

These guys are the single most important reason for your downturn. Your economic downturn and India's upturn coincided with the wave of militancy in Kashmir together with the radicalization of your country and Afghanistan (80's and 90's). Last line is adopted from IKs speech.

India is fine, as long as there is a stable government and security investments will keep coming. We will build more startups and develop after all we don't have an image problem.

 

[SkyWolf]

Indians would settle today with LOC as border offer is on table. That said, you are the one coping with the imaginary central asian access story. Give me one instance where India tried to take over AJk or GB from Pak, vs you tried to take Kashmir Cope

Here is your MC modi and media fantashijing about this territory, and bsdk amit shah willing to die for it:

My Pushtun brothers of Pakistan and your historic tormentors have a saying: "Aoh, Khusboo laga kay"

 

[Chhatrapati]

Here is your MC modi and media fantashijing about this territory, and bsdk amit shah willing to die for it:

My Pushtun brothers of Pakistan and your historic tormentors have a saying: "Aoh, Khusboo laga kay"

Better tries next time? Words of politicians vs real action, real action wins hands down. As I said India never attempted, Pak did thrice.
Nobody torments us, y'all are not deathproof and like any other person dies from gunfire or at worst case LGBs. Pashtun Baloch Hazara makes no difference to us.

 

[khansaheeb]

Now that Afghan theater is controlled by a sort-of-an-ally, should we revert to our past behavior?

ie. giving refuge to militant organizations, using talib to fight in Kashmir?

This brings terrible disrepute to our country in the world. Often these militants turn against the state or get into stupid sectarian rivalries.

I believe this policy has been terribly ineffective and self-defeating.

Instead - we should focus on trying to convince the Taliban to soften their stance and to allow railroads, highways to connect central Asia with cpec and of course single out India along with their broken akhand bharat dreams.

now with Iran willing to work with Taliban, china-Iran investment, pipelines from Russia -- this is a tremendous opportunity to make Pakistan an international hub for commerce instead of terrorism. Cant be done with bombs going off in every city and town.

rather than focusing on Kashmir, we should secure our western border, take care of BLA and TTP. We need peace and order.

I am afraid the other approach will simply get us on FATF blacklist, EU/US shitlists.

I wish we could be economically strategic for a mere second.

Indian atrocities in Kashmir and the Kashmiri cry for help will become a magnet for Jihadists.