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Should Line Of Control Be Converted Into A Permanent Border Between India & Pakistan?

A Big War will solve and finalize the boundary of India,Pakisten,China and Tibet.Pray that it will not end up nuclear.the ferociousness cannot be seen from India for past 6 decades;But Silence is not the Answer.
Let the War Draw the Final Border Line :)
 
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It can be, let the Kashmiris vote on it through a plebiscite.

Withdraw all non Kasmiri nationals including all pakistani defence forces from Pakistani administered Kashmir first. That was part of the UN resolution and a prerequisite to Plebiscite..
 
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It's the only solution that doesnt involve us going to war. But instead of international border, turn it into some sort of sort border that allows Kashmiri's from both sides to interact freely.
 
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LOC kashmir is a very dangerous border.

It needs to be guared 24 hours 7 days a week with every possible precaution available to all sides to prevent another KARGIL SAICHEN or indeed mumbai type attack.

Whether right or wrong the LOC is the dividing line between India & pakistan.

I CANT SEE THIS CHANGING at any stage
 
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It can be, let the Kashmiris vote on it through a plebiscite.

At present the ppl of Kashmir will not choose Pakistan :cheers:
There was a recent survey which ill try to get where India had a slight 1 or 2% lead and to Pakistan & most wanted Independence.
 
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r u serious?!?
this thread does not make sense to me or any other kashmiri or pakistani
 
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At present the ppl of Kashmir will not choose Pakistan :cheers:
There was a recent survey which ill try to get where India had a slight 1 or 2% lead and to Pakistan & most wanted Independence.

what surveys r u looking at lmao :rofl:
a land where people celebrate ur holidays as black days and there are rallies of hundreds of thousands of people chanting anti-indian slogans every week means one thing; KASHMIRIS DONT WANT TO BE A PART OF INDIA; GET OVER IT
 
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Withdraw all non Kasmiri nationals including all pakistani defence forces from Pakistani administered Kashmir first. That was part of the UN resolution and a prerequisite to Plebiscite..
Actually no, the UN resolution said Pakistan and India should minimize troop presence.

Basically you need to keep a policing force. Pakistan is okay with that. I believe Pakistan was allowed up to 6000 security officers and India up 18,000 for its region.

More troops for India... Pakistan agreed.
 
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At present the ppl of Kashmir will not choose Pakistan :cheers:
There was a recent survey which ill try to get where India had a slight 1 or 2% lead and to Pakistan & most wanted Independence.
Very nice, so you should now have the guts to conduct the UN plebiscite. Lets settle the debate once and for all :P
 
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Actually no, the UN resolution said Pakistan and India should minimize troop presence.
Actually yes, the UN resolution requires complete removal of 'tribesmen and Pakistan national' before demilitarization.

Truce Agreement (Para B/1 of Part II of UNCIP Resolution of 13th August, 1948) states:

"When the Commission shall have notified the Government of India that the tribesmen and Pakistan nationals referred to in Part II A 2 hereof have withdrawn, thereby terminating the situation which was represented by the Government of India to the Security Council as having occasioned the presence of Indian forces in the State of Jammu and Kashmir, and further, that the Pakistan forces are being withdrawn from the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Government of India agrees to begin to withdraw the bulk of their forces from the State in stages to be agreed upon with the Commission"
 
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Only peaceful resolution, and therefore the only solution, is self-determination; that too under international eyes. This is something that was promised, and should have happened, back in 1948. It didn't happen then, but better late than never. Let all the people who currently reside in AJK and IHK vote, but freeze immigration in and out of the region; that is the only way to ensure a certain overly-populated country can't pump the region with its own people and dilute the elections.

There will be regions in the South and South West that will vote for India, I have few doubts. But I also have little doubt that the majority of the area will vote to separate from India and become part of Pakistan. Once the Kashmiris have let their voices be heard, the border can be made permanent between the areas that voted for either side, and both India and Pakistan can move towards building a controlled yet soft border (much like US-Canada). This will ensure that future generations can freely visit each others' countries and promote brotherhood in the region. In the long run, allowing the Kashmiris to decide their own fate will benefit both countries, and I don't understand why my Indian friends don't realize that!

As for the solution presented. The Line of Control divides the people of Kashmir, particularly the valley. We, neither Indians nor Pakistans, have the right to divide a people without their consent. They've suffered because of us for many decades, and are becoming increasingly frustrated with both countries (yes, Pakistan as well, but to a far lesser extent).

If the issue is not resolved, who knows how many more will die in this century. If Kashmir is resolved, then every other issue standing in the way of peace; Indus Water and whatnot, can be very easily resolved as well. I swear, the people of Pakistan will shower you with flowers if you just opened your damned eyes!

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Well, one key issue I forgot to mention. Whereas Pakistan has primarily the Kashmir issue to worry about, India has many others. The problem is, if a plebiscite is held in Kashmir, it may fuel uprisings elsewhere. Assam, for example, would be difficult to keep under control.

Things are complicated for India. I can understand why it is a touchy subject, and I sympathize with them. No patriot wants their country to be divided. However, the facts remain the facts. If you're an Indian reading this and are against Kashmiri self-determination, then I implore you to visit the Valley and speak with the locals. I've done the same on this side of the border.
 
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first of all, please change(a little bit) the title of the thread.(Pakistan or Pakistani instead of 'what it is there').

it hurts when you get banned for using 'that' word even you were not intended to hurt someones feeling and banned without asking for any claryfication by mods. And still other people can use it.
"Ye.. acchi baat nahi hain...." (Vajpayee style)
:pakistan:
 
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