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Should Indians be forced to join the army?

@ Sanabil.....apology for assuming you are a girl....

But you did not compared the years of training, just some patrol competition.....

@ Jana.........
Years of training is much less in the case of pakistan...... e.g...In india one goes through three years at NDA and two years at IMA to becoem a regulat officer.....ignoring the further trainings ..howabout Pakistan?

I am ignoring your othe silly comments......
 
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@ Sanabil.....apology for assuming you are a girl....

But you did not compared the years of training, just some patrol competition.....

@ Jana.........
Years of training is much less in the case of pakistan...... e.g...In india one goes through three years at NDA and two years at IMA to becoem a regulat officer.....ignoring the further trainings ..howabout Pakistan?

I am ignoring your othe silly comments......


will you please outline the course details through which cadets go through in NDA and IMA respectively???
 
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HAHAHAHAHA.......

Seriously sometimes stupid posters like you make me laugh...

I can understand ......years of brainwashing is the reason...unfortunately, there is no cure for you till the time you do not come out of the well...

On topic

while both in India and Pakistan, the civilains can call in Army for assistance...........just by looking at the power structure, you know who decides what..
 
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will you please outline the course details through which cadets go through in NDA and IMA respectively???

Sure..first tell me the number of years a person selected in Pakistan goes to become an officer....
 
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Sure..first tell me the number of years a person selected in Pakistan goes to become an officer....

after selection a cadet goes through a 2 years training at PMA, Kakul after which he or she is promoted to a rank of 2nd lieutenant. .
 
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I can understand ......years of brainwashing is the reason...unfortunately, there is no cure for you till the time you do not come out of the well...

On topic

while both in India and Pakistan, the civilains can call in Army for assistance...........just by looking at the power structure, you know who decides what..

Totally agree on brainwashing..... But there is a cure... You should start believing the truth and stop watching indian news....

ON serious note if you think you know my country better than me than you really are dreaming and dont know what you are talking about. Army does help govt where the govt ask for help. As the most organized and disciplined as compared to other departments in Pakistan it does help the govt in anyway possible. Be it training the police in CT ops or Building Kalabagh or Karakuram Highway or defending the nation or helping in flood relief....


And dont count the Marshall Laws as controlling the country in democratic era.... If thats the case then we can say Turkey is still run by their army....
 
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Every country has at one time or another made conscription a solution for low military manpower even the US. India's case is no different....Let's forget democracy and focus more importantly on the pro's and cons's ......Let that weigh our decision. This could be a pivotal moment in India's future here on. As was posted earlier we have a huge pool of qualified applicants around 20 million per year. If we can use them efficiently, mold them properly, identify strengths and weaknesses and improve upon it....we can really make a new generation of not just regular military personnel but a creative, multifaceted force which can have long range implications in the growth of India. The key is having trained and disciplined military personnel who can identify various qualities in these youth and place them accordingly. This is a key area that will need constant training and scrutiny....but if done properly and efficiently we can identify certain skill sets or physical traits that can be advantageous to India. We can identify folks who may have certain qualities that make them superior in roles wrt covert operations (RAW) , or maybe we can identify qualities that would mesh well with the sciences or engineering......there is no background or individual quality that can be considered unworthy......even someone with a or fashion tailor background may be interested in clothing camouflage for the military.....whatever it is ...we need to develop their inherent strengths whatever it may be. Not to mention, we will have a many great ideas flooding the military that will give the armed forces completely new perspectives form different walks of life. Let's face it.....some Indians have more exposure to worldly views than others be it thru wealth, education, job, etc. This information could tactically change our doctrines and our forces into more efficient fighting forces. The possibilities are limitless and it has my brain gushing with blood thinking of the enormous benefits India can get. More importantly, India will have youth who are instilled with patriotism at training which may help our solve our regional divisions....make it a point to mix individuals from different religions and cultures together so that they see fist hand and make their own conclusion instead of relying on falsehoods. These youth could even become a sort of emergency volunteer force that can be called in times of national disaster. They can also keep an eye on suspicious characters like terrorists. Sure, money may be an issue....but food will be the biggest expense after weapons training which should be a priority (they will need much training than the Mumbai Police which I was 1x 2months I believe). This will be a bootcamp and they will need to live in inhospitable conditions, i.e. sleep on the dirt floor, etc. I also think this would be a key solution to the way different Hindu castes and other religions behave to each other....it allows less informed individuals to see that we are all Indian......What do you guys think?
 
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will you please outline the course details through which cadets go through in NDA and IMA respectively???

ok for army a cadet does 3 yrs training in NDA (gets bachelor degree in BSC/BCS/IT/BA)followed by one year course in IMA. then he gets commisssioned as LT.

for air force same as NDA followed by One year trg at AFA/Hakismpet.

for direct entry candidates who have completed graduation , they undergo 18 months training at IMA and then get commisssioned as LT.
 
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Totally agree on brainwashing..... But there is a cure... You should start believing the truth and stop watching indian news....

ON serious note if you think you know my country better than me than you really are dreaming and dont know what you are talking about. Army does help govt where the govt ask for help. As the most organized and disciplined as compared to other departments in Pakistan it does help the govt in anyway possible. Be it training the police in CT ops or Building Kalabagh or Karakuram Highway or defending the nation or helping in flood relief....


And dont count the Marshall Laws as controlling the country in democratic era.... If thats the case then we can say Turkey is still run by their army....


well said . . :tup:
 
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Even if folks don;t mean the high standards of the Military, compulsory training will make you feel like you fit in...It will give you some pride that you part of something bigger than yourself ..and its called India.
 
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ok for army a cadet does 3 yrs training in NDA (gets bachelor degree in BSC/BCS/IT/BA)followed by one year course in IMA. then he gets commisssioned as LT.

for air force same as NDA followed by One year trg at AFA/Hakismpet.

for direct entry candidates who have completed graduation , they undergo 18 months training at IMA and then get commisssioned as LT.


oookaaay. . . so thats nothing different. . In Pakistan Army when a cadet is promoted to 2nd Lieutenant he still is under the process of training. He goes through a number of courses before going for a Unit Specialization Course. .
 
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ask me the reason my friends who scored above 80% in maths science in 12 boards got there kicked in nda exams ( 10 of them tried 2 passed ) out of those 2 only 1 abhijeet soni was able to become a officer the other one was thrown out ajay rathore who played state level badminton with me in the second week of training
 
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I don't like the idea of conscription . Army life is un-attractive to me. At the moment, i am preparing for IAS, IFS; so i might have shot at achieving my recent department of interest........the RAW :tup:
Even I am preparing for IAS.
 
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I don't like the idea of conscription . Army life is un-attractive to me. At the moment, i am preparing for IAS, IFS; so i might have shot at achieving my recent department of interest........the RAW :tup:


hmm. . so in India one can join RAW by going through civil services. .
well in Pakistan you can become a proper member of ISI only if you are an officer of the armed forces. . through civil services one can go to FIA (Fedral Investigation Agency). . .
 
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