Should Bangladesh worry about the Indian elections?

[Nilgiri]

Again epic fail. As discussed number of times early marriage and having more than 2 children are completely two different thing. Early marriage is still a trend among the poor of the society to marry their daughter early as it’s a big responsibility. Naturally after marriage they have children. But since 1970s Government has taken measure to control the population growth. Now you will hardly find families who are having 3-4 children even among the poor. So that data does not hold for Bangladesh as no other countries has taken measures like Bangladesh did which also includes activity of the NGO at the grassroots level. Plus woman empowerment and participation of them at workforce played major role as well.

This is video from 2003 which said what happened in Bangladesh is nothing less than a miracle and has shown where it happened and how.

Now let the people vote to decide if its true on the ground.

Oh of course you cannot lol.

 

[Black_cats]

Now let the people vote to decide if its true on the ground.

Oh of course you cannot lol.

It’s already true and universally accepted. What is woman participation rate at work force in Nigeria or Afghanistan compared to Bangladesh? What is their literacy rate? How much Government initiative and NGO activities at grassroots level of the countries like Nigeria and Afghanistan?

Just basic 101 for linear regression. You can’t predict a house price with total size plus number of bedroom. You need to add other factors like lot size, washroom size, garage, neighborhood, crime rate, close to shopping mall, school etc to determine the actual house price.

You just made a very bad model with two factors only without taking other factors into consideration. You can preach with these info to uneducated and hindutva trolls only.

 

[Nilgiri]

It’s already true and universally accepted

Nope, its just BD govt in the end....the same one that bitches 3 million non stop lol. Its like saying North Korea is "universally accepted" just because its govt numbers are out there.

This is why no one cares to visit BD in the end (to check if anything actually stacks up) and you people perform miserably as a whole wherever you go, intellectually, financially or socio-economically. BBS and BAL no longer follow you there, and the reality shines through.

If everything was good or better than India, you lot would be doing as well or better than India in the 3rd party areas...when it comes to such things as basic socioeconomic stuff. Fact is you don't....hence occam's razor (given the deliberate LIE you lot still perpetuate at govt level about 3 million, and the fact everyone that meets more than a few Bangladeshis form similar negative impression) is what? All the developed countries are lying about Bangladeshis performance there? Or you lot in the swamp are?

An honest election in BD would help do the same inside BD....but you lot can't have that. Rather its just best to ignore the few nuggets of truth that come out (that needs economic professor to write about because it gets totally suppressed in the report itself) like real household income decline.

You are a bunch of hyper sensitive little turd stains, can't have one challenge to the narrative....1971 and your 3 million fake nightmare did that to you I suppose....have to prop up something you know is fake and you convince yourselves any level of fakery/feel good is fine for anything else. An utterly decrepit shameless serf people. No wonder you lash out 10 times and cry to mods 100 times when someone posts monkey pic of your PM lol.

 

[Black_cats]

Nope, its just BD govt in the end....the same one that bitches 3 million non stop lol. Its like saying North Korea is "universally accepted" just because its govt numbers are out there.

This is why no one cares to visit BD in the end (to check if anything actually stacks up) and you people perform miserably as a whole wherever you go, intellectually, financially or socio-economically. BBS and BAL no longer follow you there, and the reality shines through.

If everything was good or better than India, you lot would be doing as well or better than India in the 3rd party areas...when it comes to such things as basic socioeconomic stuff. Fact is you don't....hence occam's razor (given the deliberate LIE you lot still perpetuate at govt level about 3 million, and the fact everyone that meets more than a few Bangladeshis form similar negative impression) is what? All the developed countries are lying about Bangladeshis performance there? Or you lot in the swamp are?

An honest election in BD would help do the same inside BD....but you lot can't have that. Rather its just best to ignore the few nuggets of truth that come out (that needs economic professor to write about because it gets totally suppressed in the report itself) like real household income decline.

You are a bunch of hyper sensitive little turd stains, can't have one challenge to the narrative....1971 and your 3 million fake nightmare did that to you I suppose....have to prop up something you know is fake and you convince yourselves any level of fakery/feel good is fine for anything else. An utterly decrepit shameless serf people. No wonder you lash out 10 times and cry to mods 100 times when someone posts monkey pic of your PM lol.

3 million has nothing to do with fertility rate and woman empowerment. This is universally accepted. Plus Bangladesh is one of the top performing country in the world in terms of gdp growth. Another epic fail

 

[Nilgiri]

3 million has nothing to do with fertility rate and woman empowerment. This is universally accepted. Plus Bangladesh is one of the top performing country in the world in terms of gdp growth. Another epic fail

At least earn more than haitians do in the richest country in the world:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

TFR, anything to do with women....everything is lousy ...lets take just employment of women (in UK):

People claiming to do so well should do well where they are measured in neutral 3rd party area...to earn credibility on it. Or at least they should have some level of tourism so that 3rd party people can see and check for themselves better. If BD women are all progressive and equal in BD (even better than in the US!), why they do so miserably suddenly outside BD?

Otherwise simply we have to see the history of perpetuated lies (and that is where the 3 million comes in) in the country if there is major dissonance between the lot in 3rd party area (relative to other groups) versus what is claimed in their source country (relative to other countries).

Is there a choice to really use any alternative data not produced or controlled by BD govt? Of course not. It is the major reason why BD did not even accept ESCAP assessment results of its govt statistics. It is why BD does not one iota to move from GDDS to SDDS (because the high frequency data will show just how crap BAL and BD economy really is).

Its simple, improve your corruption level, allow better 3rd party exchange in your own country and allow an actual election to take place....more realities will surface and less dissonance arises with BD people socioeconomics outside of it. This takes less energy and more ability to actually fix the problems genuinely (since less spent on denial and perpetuation). Kleptocracy groupthink = bad.

The more you do none of that and just double down, the more you stuck in the rut, just like your 90% RMG reliance for exports.

 

[Black_cats]

At least earn more than haitians do in the richest country in the world:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

TFR, anything to do with women....everything is lousy ...lets take just employment of women (in UK):

People claiming to do so well should do well where they are measured in neutral 3rd party area...to earn credibility on it. Or at least they should have some level of tourism so that 3rd party people can see and check for themselves better. If BD women are all progressive and equal in BD (even better than in the US!), why they do so miserably suddenly outside BD?

Otherwise simply we have to see the history of perpetuated lies (and that is where the 3 million comes in) in the country if there is major dissonance between the lot in 3rd party area (relative to other groups) versus what is claimed in their source country (relative to other countries).

Is there a choice to really use any alternative data not produced or controlled by BD govt? Of course not. It is the major reason why BD did not even accept ESCAP assessment results of its govt statistics. It is why BD does not one iota to move from GDDS to SDDS (because the high frequency data will show just how crap BAL and BD economy really is).

Its simple, improve your corruption level, allow better 3rd party exchange in your own country and allow an actual election to take place....more realities will surface and less dissonance arises with BD people socioeconomics outside of it. This takes less energy and more ability to actually fix the problems genuinely (since less spent on denial and perpetuation). Kleptocracy groupthink = bad.

The more you do none of that and just double down, the more you stuck in the rut, just like your 90% RMG reliance for exports.

Another epic fail! Nothing to do with woman empowerment in Bangladesh.

It has been said number of times majority of the early immigrant were either asylum seeker or came with dv lottery or family sponsorship with little or no resources in 1980s, 1990s and early 2000. Survival was the key for them. But things started to change with new immigrants who are mostly educated and 2nd generation of Bangladeshi immigrants. Plus as was said before many works on cash whose real income has not been included. Many time woman does not work to take care of the babies and even if they do they do cash job.

The second generation Bangladeshis or new immigrants gives the real picture what Bangladeshis are capable of.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Its against the Indian law for non Indians to campaign in Indian elections .just like non Indians cannot contest in Indian elections and just like non Indians cannot vote in India .

Fawad Khan also did films in India...we all loved his acting.

Glad to know that....people to people relations need to get better between bangladesh and india.

Doesnt matter. They are all Indian citizens. Even BJP and Congress have film stars as their candidates for certain constituencies. Doesnt mean that we would let foreigners to campaign for certain parties.

BTW its not sanghi conspiracy. I am sure that Bangladesh actor didnt know what he was getting into. I mean Indian pan masala company fooled former james bond, and here this person was in contact with politicians who are master at making fool of others. As far as political parties are concerned, he was there to appeal to illegal immigrants so they vote for them.
No self respecting country would allow a foreigner to campaign in their elections for anyone. If u dont mind that, go ahead and call SRK, Aamir or Salman if ur political parties have enough money and think people will like them.

He made a mistake by engaging in political campaign for sure. He is not that intelligent or informed about the complexity of Indian politics. But your toilet media should not engaged in such a hue and cry. They branded that guy an extremist Muslim part of a big conspiracy to grab vote of ''illegal Bangladeshi Muslim'' for Trinamul. He is a secular, cultural type of person, he do not represent anything Islamic. I am sure he was not even aware about the religious composition of the constituency he was campaigning. Not sure whether he knew about ''Illegal Bangladeshi Muslim'' is such a big political issue in India. Most of the Bangladeshi people who do not regularly follow Indian political scene or not engaged in such forum are unaware about this issue in India. So making him a 'Muslim extremist conspirator hellbent on influencing the illegal Bangladeshi Muslim to vote for Trinamul' was a big joke and demonstration of ugly attitude of your Sanghi thugs and their mouthpiece mainstream media. They almost branded Bangladesh is just another enemy Muslim country like Pakistan who are conspiring against India. This is very distasteful.

 

[Republic]

Should Bangladesh worry about the Indian elections?
Ziauddin Choudhury

• Published at 12:01 am May 1st, 2019

A marathon process over six weeks REUTERS


Despite the apparently friendly relations with India, there still remain unresolved issues between the two countries

A news report of a well-known Bangladeshi film actor having his visa revoked for India for his alleged participation in a voting campaign for a West Bengal candidate in the ongoing parliamentary elections is both amusing and instructive.

It is amusing because, to some of us, it looks like the political interests of India and Bangladesh are interlocked. It is instructive because the incident should show to all of us where to draw a line in our enthusiasm in demonstrating love for our fellow Bengalis on the other side.

I do not know the fallout of this ban for the actor, but I do know that it will have some impact on Indian perception of active interest of Bangladesh in Indian elections. By Indian perception, I mean the view of the ruling party.

A Bangladeshi film actor’s campaign support for a particular candidate in Indian elections may not matter in the larger scheme of things for India. But it does raise a question whether an individual Bangladeshi’s open declaration of support for an opposition candidate is a barometer of Bangladesh’s wishes for a change in India.

Perhaps there are wishes that a change in government in India could bring a change in our bilateral relations. But the wishes for a government in the more powerful neighbouring country that looks upon its smaller neighbours with a more benevolent eye may not be out of place. What may be out of place is to expect that any country will sacrifice its own interests to accommodate the wishes of its neighbouring countries.

Therefore, dancing for a particular political party or expecting that party to win the next elections in India will do us no good.

The political party that ruled the Indian political space as well as the government for much of the time since Indian independence has been Congress. The leadership of this party was at the helm during the crisis of 1971, and it has been more than sympathetic to Bangladesh, both in words and action. It is the iron personality of Indira Gandhi and her party that stood solidly behind our struggle for liberation and saw us through that critical period. Our leaders in return have expressed their gratitude to this party leadership in returning the friendship via many bilateral treaties and international alliances.

A critical flaw in this relationship has been mistaking personal relationships between the founders of our country with the political personalities of that time (who happened to belong to Indian Congress) as a permanent relationship between two countries. There is no doubt that a strong personal relationship between Indira Gandhi and Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was a driver in our bilateral relationship, but that relationship did not or could not supplant our national interests.

It took decades to implement the bilateral agreement on land borders that was agreed upon soon after our liberation between the two countries. The personal relationship between the two leaders was not enough to solve our water-sharing agreement on Ganges and Teesta. Yet, we continued to deceive ourselves by harking back to “close” personal relationships that once existed between the leadership of the two countries during our independence.

In our blind view, we forget that there is no perennial government ruled by a single party. India is a democracy, and its voters decide who they send to power. In the past 50 years or so of our existence, we had seen seven prime ministers in India who did not belong to Congress (even though a few of them did not last more than a year). But they all, including the current incumbent, belonged to political opponents of Congress. Can anyone say our bilateral relationship suffered during the tenure of any of these non-Congress prime ministers?

It is difficult to prognosticate the final results of ongoing parliamentary elections in India. This is a marathon of seven phases spread over six weeks. The current ruling party does not have a stellar report card in its first term, but it can crow about success of the economy and growth. Its communal image notwithstanding, the party’s iconic leader has a vast brood of loyal supporters who can and will run a relentless campaign for the party.

Compared with this, the leadership of the main opposition is relatively young and politically inexperienced. It is a battle between a politically shrewd and experienced leader and a youth who is banking on the charisma of a family name associated with Indian freedom.

It may be premature, but judging from accounts in the Indian press and other international observations, it may not be that Indian voters will topple the current leadership from its position. It may not be a repeat of 2015 results with a landslide for BJP, but it will not be another Congress government at the centre this time around.

On our side, we have to recognize that personal closeness between leaders of countries does matter in forming bonds and understandings. But this is not a substitute for fundamental aspects of any bilateral relationship, which is based on each country’s own interest. These interests are best achieved by maturity of statesmanship, strategic positioning, and deeper understanding of the views and policies of the other country.

Governments come and go, but countries and people remain for long. With impending changes in India, our leaders need also to rise up to the challenges of new relationships and new dialogues. Our rhetoric needs to be supported by plans, both tactical and strategic, to keep bilateral relations mutually beneficial.

Despite the apparently close friendly relations with India in the last decades, there still remain unresolved issues between the two countries, water sharing included. India also has some unmet wishes, including transit and trans-shipment, and concerns over terrorism. A new government in India will look upon these with as much earnestness as the one before.

All of these require deft and competent handling on our side. I hope we will be ready, both politically and technically, when the change comes.

Ziauddin Choudhury has worked in the higher civil service of Bangladesh early in his career, and later for the World Bank in the US.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinio...d-bangladesh-worry-about-the-indian-elections

The columnist is an ex civil servant of Bangladesh as he claims. I don't know how much damage an idiot would have done to Bangladesh while holding such a high office who doesn't know that banning Bangladeshi actor from campaignig in elections is simply a matter of act and rule and nothing else.

As per Indian law no foreigner can campaign for any candidate irrespective of his/her country's relations with India.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

@Black_cats ভাই, ঐ নর্দমার তেলাপোকাটার মাথা খারাপ, বদ্ধ পাগল । ওর সাথে বিতর্কে যাওয়াটা নিজের মুল্যবান সময় নস্ট করা ছাড়া আর কিছুই না । ও আপনার ১ মিনিট সময় পাওয়ার ও যোগ্য না । আমি এবং আরো কয়েকজন ওকে ইগনোর লিস্টে রেখেছি । ওকে যত গুরত্ব দেবেন ও ততো মাথায় চড়বে আর মাথায় চড়ে মুততে থাকবে । কাজের ওর আগে পিছে না যাওয়াটাই ভালো ।

 

[Black_cats]

@Black_cats ভাই, ঐ নর্দমার তেলাপোকাটার মাথা খারাপ, বদ্ধ পাগল । ওর সাথে বিতর্কে যাওয়াটা নিজের মুল্যবান সময় নস্ট করা ছাড়া আর কিছুই না । ও আপনার ১ মিনিট সময় পাওয়ার ও যোগ্য না । আমি এবং আরো কয়েকজন ওকে ইগনোর লিস্টে রেখেছি । ওকে যত গুরত্ব দেবেন ও ততো মাথায় চড়বে আর মাথায় চড়ে মুততে থাকবে । কাজের ওর আগে পিছে না যাওয়াটাই ভালো ।

I just destroyed his claims with a faulty regression model without taking into consideration of other factors. This forum is visited by many people and many would believe such propaganda. This is important to counter such claim. But annoying thing is the same thing will be spammed sometime later.

Bro believe me I do work, study, trying to setup business then spend time here. Spending time does not give me any $$$. So usually I do not spend time in conversation.

 

[Aryan0395]

They branded that guy an extremist Muslim part of a big conspiracy to grab vote of ''illegal Bangladeshi Muslim'' for Trinamul.

Media did not brand the actor as extremist. Instead they put the blame on TMC only, and its only that party which is at fault.
If any local media did put the blame on actor, i dont agree with them.

 

[Super Falcon]

Slave should worry about more harsh punishment

 

[Black_cats]

Media did not brand the actor as extremist. Instead they put the blame on TMC only, and its only that party which is at fault.
If any local media did put the blame on actor, i dont agree with them.

They said he is a member of Jamaat and extremist.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Slave should worry about more harsh punishment

Do not cry foul ''Bengalis hate Pakistan unnecessarily'' when blow back comes after such type of comment of your's.

 

[UKBengali]

Want to know another thing "manufactured" by "hindutva groups" @Axomiya_lora ?

Bangladeshi fertility rate once they leave their swamp of fake number delusion and are measured by actual 3rd party credible country:

Remember to never believe the BBS hogwash willy nilly, they are far from the best fit line globally for a reason when you compare what they can easily lie on to what is harder to lie on:

It is fundamentally a country of liars at its root....they dont want to deal with their peasant uprising if actual real numbers come out. Election rigging is just another part of this objective.

You stupid dude?
BD mass immigration to UK was mainly in the 1980s. 1970s for Pakistanis and 1960s for Indians. Those that immigrated from BD were the backward people from Sylhet district.
We can see that BD TFR dropped from 4.5 to 3.2 from the 1980s to early 2000s. It is likely to be just over 2 by now. BD children now are beating white children in education and not far off either the Indians and Chinese.
Please stop talking about the UK as you do not know anything about it.