Shocking: 42,480 farmers and daily wagers committed suicide last year

[El Sidd]

There are thousands of epidemics in India each year

 

[Trango Towers]

Oh thats very sad indeed

 

[jamahir]

say "NO" to Communism

Despite me writing at length in previous page about why it should be implemented ?

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

Despite me writing at length in previous page about why it should be implemented ?

Even if you write one hundred pages.

 

[jamahir]

Even if you write one hundred pages.

Now you are just being stubborn.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I have been saying for years on PDF that suicides by Indians for socio-economic reasons, whether by farmers or by students or by white collar professionals or their dependent family members, are very avoidable.

Unless there are three 40-foot anaconda snakes waiting outside those people's houses eager to gobble them and there is no escape, there shouldn't be any reason to commit suicide. It is a matter of sadness that these people do not find emotional and material support amongst their families, friends or civil society. They see no way out simply because the system does not provide for such support. What is the use of the country having a huge military and becoming the world's second largest importer of armaments if the internal system is corrupted ?

India is the world's most capitalist society where for a lot of people, and this has become applied in principle for others too, money is worshiped with a proper goddess for the purpose - Lakshmi. Why worship something that is not natural at all ? It is not uncommon for the field agents of micro-finance companies to tell the borrower farmers that if they cannot repay the loan ( plus severe interest ) they better jump into the village pond.

I have a saying which had to be the truth for the last seven decades. "Paisa sahoolat hona chahiye, zaroorat nahi" meaning "Money should be facility, not necessity".

I ask you, readers, in five or ten years time should money have the exalted position as now ? What about in Mars settlements in twenty years time ? Are not socialism and communism the automatic choice of social organization of human society because among other things they speak of abolishment of money system as we know it now in a large part of the world ?

@ps3linux @fitpOsitive @Naofumi @Joe Shearer @Bilal9 @Hamartia Antidote @Omar Al-Deek others too.

This is so very sad. No human being should be forced into this situation.

I wonder brother, are any of these suicides Muslim? As that would be really sad. Islam is very clear on the akhirat of this act (in most cases.)

Didn't India have land reforms under Congress? What happened there? Did landowner control shift to creditor control?

 

[jamahir]

This is so very sad. No human being should be forced into this situation.

Agreed.

I wonder brother, are any of these suicides Muslim? As that would be really sad.

Yeah, good point.

Actually some three or so years ago on PDF there was an article posted about a Muslim student from India-administered Kashmir who committed suicide because of something about his exam marks. He should not have done that. Sad that his parents did not say to him that exam marks are not the end of the world and that he could even drop out of college and do something like start a business.

Didn't India have land reforms under Congress? What happened there? Did landowner control shift to creditor control?

Well, there still are laborers here who work on the land of others so I don't know if Congress did any land reform.

West Bengal until some years ago was governed by the socialists until Mamatha Banerjee's TMC party took over. @Naofumi had posted an article about land reform instituted by the socialists which led to less socio-economic stress on farmers and farm laborers. Naofumi can link that article here.

 

[jamahir]

I wonder brother, are any of these suicides Muslim?

Found one recent case from Kashmir :

“In most of these suicide cases,” an investigative cop told Kashmir Observer, “people harbor distressed mindsets, forcing them to do the unthinkable.”

The cop detailed the case of a student who was pressurized by his parents to top the exam some years ago.

“When the boy couldn’t take the regular pestering, he hung himself in his room one day,” the officer continued.

“The boy took that extreme step after facing years of mental onslaught. More than demanding parenting, he needed a supporting family structure where he could’ve expressed himself freely. But instead he ended up succumbing to his fear and worry.”

The traditional and modern socio-economic structure is to blame.

 

[Nasr]

Why don't the PDF Indians see these figures? Where are the $500 billion Foreign Reserves being used in these economic matters?

The $500 billion is pumped into fattening india's billionaire/millionaire club. The rich become richer and the poor are imprisoned in permanent poverty. This the result for all those countries who follow the zionist-west. I pray and hope that Pakistan does not fall into this trap.

 

[Mad Scientist 2.0]

This is so very sad. No human being should be forced into this situation.

I wonder brother, are any of these suicides Muslim? As that would be really sad. Islam is very clear on the akhirat of this act (in most cases.)

Didn't India have land reforms under Congress? What happened there? Did landowner control shift to creditor control?

Only a few states successfully did that. Rest all sates have not implemented it at all where some people hoard acres of land are rich and influential while rest perished who are daily wagers.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Only a few states successfully did that. Rest all sates have not implemented it at all where some people hoard acres of land are rich and influential while rest perished who are daily wagers.

So we are told lies about India here in Pakistan. Many politicians talk about Indian land reforms as some ideal.

Rural Pakistan is still largely a feudal society. I was interested in this subject because I would like to see that system gone. However I wonder what is the best system to replace feudal society.

Obviously democracy would have to be paused to institute that kind of reform, as in a military coup or transitional meritocracy.

 

[Mad Scientist 2.0]

So we are told lies about India here in Pakistan. Many politicians talk about Indian land reforms as some ideal.

Rural Pakistan is still largely a feudal society. I was interested in this subject because I would like to see that system gone. However I wonder what is the best system to replace feudal society.

Obviously democracy would have to be paused to institute that kind of reform, as in a military coup or transitional meritocracy.

Rural society is still feudal you can say like that, Bengal , Kerala and to some extent Andhra Pradesh are the three places where land distribution was successful. The land distribution act only helped 6 percent of net operated area and a negligible positive socio economic effect. This is due to the fact in village as you also mentioned in your country the big land holders have the last say, and the Poor's due to not knowing their rights and systemic corruption they are subservient to those big land holders. Even today the yolk of every benefits given by authority is taken away by the big land holders while the marginal farmers and rural wage workers suffer the most and they make up the majority of suicide victims. After economic liberalisation came in India then rural people who otherwise had no means to survive but to sell their dignity and doing hard work at menial pay moved to cities in flock which ultimately changed their lives for the better as here they get much better wages as well as much more dignity as a human being.

I don't know what you people learn in your country but I am telling you this from what I read about the impact of land distribution it is you can say a utter failure except in few states I mentioned above.

 

[Mad Scientist 2.0]

So we are told lies about India here in Pakistan. Many politicians talk about Indian land reforms as some ideal.

Rural Pakistan is still largely a feudal society. I was interested in this subject because I would like to see that system gone. However I wonder what is the best system to replace feudal society.

Obviously democracy would have to be paused to institute that kind of reform, as in a military coup or transitional meritocracy.

However it can be successful where you can implicate the model that was been taken in Bengal nicknamed "Operation Braga" or in Kerala where there were series of rebelion against "Jenmis " a famous one of the was Mopalah Rebelion led to the formation of Land reform act can serve as an template for you people to implement in Pakistan but the political cost will be huge as you know how much power they hold in rural part of your country and even defence establishment may also not want to go forward with this act in your country as it will reverse the status quo and break the barriers of the elite which unscrupulous elements enjoy with impunity.

 

[Ichigo]

I think its more to do with the cast system. reforms no matter wat, india wont be able stop this unless they find a way out of the cast system and the problem is they are too deep into the caste system now that either they give up hinduism altogether or they wont get out of this mess ever. RSS being in power is just the opposite of wat they should be trying to do.

 

[GumNaam]

shining india everybody...shining india!