Shock New Google Warning For Anyone Buying Huawei Mate 30

[KhanBaba2]

You seriously are on fire aren't you

I was. But I had to help in cleaning up in the house. Now there is no fire. You guys can have fun now.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

I do not define piracy.

Which post gives you the impression that I did not know that google services could be installed separately.

That makes you tech savvy.

Secondly, I don't see why Huawei won't roit their system and allow user full control. Yu-Yureka had done an experiment with Cyanogen OS. So, Huawei can also allow unrestricted & rooted OS which people can modify as per will. This will help them aell as well as help people install whatever they want at their own risk

 

[macnurv]

I do not define piracy.

Which post gives you the impression that I did not know that google services could be installed separately.

Make up your mind, you claimed that installing google services amounts to piracy and now you dont define it. I am not sure if that amounts to piracy.

Your posts made it clear that you didnt knew about it, and lets say that if you did yet conveniently overlooked that fact because it didnt suit your narrative, this lays bare the fact that you are incapable of giving honest opinion based on facts about the topic at hand, hence rendering all your claims as useless.

 

[KhanBaba2]

That makes you tech savvy.

Secondly, I don't see why Huawei won't roit their system and allow user full control. Yu-Yureka had done an experiment with Cyanogen OS. So, Huawei can also allow unrestricted & rooted OS which people can modify as per will. This will help them aell as well as help people install whatever they want at their own risk

At own risk is the keyword. Does the general public want to take the risk or will the prefer some other mobile instead. The tech savvy will love an OS like that, and according to some posters here, almost everyone is tech savvy.

The other concern is piracy. If a lot of people install android the US will ask China to take steps. Another weapon for the US in the trade war.

 

[macnurv]

At own risk is the keyword. Does the general public want to take the risk or will the prefer some other mobile instead. The tech savvy will love an OS like that, and according to some posters here, almost everyone is tech savvy.

The other concern is piracy. If a lot of people install android the US will ask China to take steps. Another weapon for the US in the trade war.

More jokes from you, I think its better you stick to writing unfunny comedy instead of international trade and technology issues.

 

[KhanBaba2]

Make up your mind, you claimed that installing google services amounts to piracy and now you dont define it. I am not sure if that amounts to piracy.

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/P/PiracyIntellectualProperty.aspx

One of the places where you can find the definition of piracy. I did not write that. Ergo, I don't define piracy. Piracy was defined long before I was born. I can however interpret if an action is piracy or not.u

Your posts made it clear that you didnt knew about it, and lets say that if you did yet conveniently overlooked that fact because it didnt suit your narrative, this lays bare the fact that you are incapable of giving honest opinion based on facts about the topic at hand, hence rendering all your claims as useless.

All my posts are still here. I am asking you to point out which post makes you think that way. All the posts here have numbers. Give me the number.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

At own risk is the keyword. Does the general public want to take the risk or will the prefer some other mobile instead. The tech savvy will love an OS like that, and according to some posters here, almost everyone is tech savvy.

The other concern is piracy. If a lot of people install android the US will ask China to take steps. Another weapon for the US in the trade war.

Androidis open source. Hence none can tell anyone what to do. Only modifications done by google like GMS is Google IPR.

Secondly, rooting does not increase security risk by default. Only when you install malware by sideloading, you will risk security. So, it is your duty to not load the risky apps. Blocking access wholesale to every app by locking the root access is not reasonable. Let people choose for themselves like people do so on Windows computer

 

[macnurv]

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/P/PiracyIntellectualProperty.aspx

One of the places where you can find the definition of piracy. I did not write that. Ergo, I don't define piracy. Piracy was defined long before I was born. I can however interpret if an action is piracy or not.




All my posts are still here. I am asking you to point out which post makes you think that way. All the posts here have numbers. Give me the number.

Are you aware of the concept of open source? Look it up.

Read my post#48 for answer to your question.

 

[KhanBaba2]

Androidis open source. Hence none can tell anyone what to do. Only modifications done by google like GMS is Google IPR.

You are right. It is GMS and not Android that is under discussion here. We are discussing the Google Play Store and that requires GMS. Installing GMS on Mate 30 is piracy.

Secondly, rooting does not increase security risk by default. Only when you install malware by sideloading, you will risk security. So, it is your duty to not load the risky apps. Blocking access wholesale to every app by locking the root access is not reasonable. Let people choose for themselves like people do so on Windows computer

I cannot source GMS for Mate 30 from Google. How do I know that the source I use is above board. Whoever is making it available is basically indulging in piracy. What if he has changed it a bit to open the machine to attack.

 

[The Accountant]

A tough fight between hardware and software. There are two possibilities, either Huawei failed on smartphone market or google get out of smart phone market like Nokia.

Unpreditable however, right now Google has upper hand. but one should not forget its a consumer market and China has 20% of the world market. If they develop their own reliable software they can easily sustain that and if consumer in rest of the world switches to the new software that will be destruction of Google.

ANyways lots of if and buts

 

[KhanBaba2]

Blocking access wholesale to every app by locking the root access is not reasonable. Let people choose for themselves like people do so on Windows computer

Discussion for another day on some other forum. Not that i totally disagree.

 

[mike2000 is back]

It is the beginning of the end of the US software domination. Countries now can see all US suppliers are not reliable.

Vietnam now developing our own versions of Facebook and Youtube. It is not an easy job, but not too complicated technically. The most important is political will and some explanations to WTO (to limit the use of foreign social network in favor of Vietnam-developed ones), but now it has been given by Mr. Trump.

Lol why will Vietnam develop one when they already have access to YouTube (U.S) YOUKOU/Iqiyi (China)?

 

[AViet]

Lol why will Vietnam develop one when they already have access to YouTube (U.S) YOUKOU/Iqiyi (China)?

Why should we rely on foreign social media?.

 

[Beast]

Lol why will Vietnam develop one when they already have access to YouTube (U.S) YOUKOU/Iqiyi (China)?

US being rosy with VCP doesnt make them continue to spew anti-communist propangada against them. South Vietnam left over regime in US continue enjoy great support from US federal until now.

US always play a double games all the time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/world/asia/will-nguyen-vietnam-american-protest.html

Youtube and facebook continues be a hotbed for anti VCP acitivities with overseas vietnamese inciting misinfo.

 

[mike2000 is back]

I'm not a tech savvy but I can download any app or crack any code with step by step hand on guide available on the internet.

You might be right, but majority of people around the world are just normal consumers who go to shop to buy a normal nice phone to use easily like every other phone out there. Most people can't be bothered to go through all these processes of cracking codes and what not. Especially since they don't really need to since they have many other alternatives to buy where they don't need to do all that. You should know that consumers generally want a good product which is easy and convenient to use . They don't want to be buying something and having to do some work on it again(the average consumer is kinda lazy when it comes to this aspect lol ). Therein lies the real problem for Huawei. I'm afraid It will definitely affect their business big time outside China. The world is already too hooked up and used to Google services (Android,maps,playstore etc) to look for an alternative. Only IOS comes close. It will be a very big blow to Huawei consumer business to be honest. Only hope here is for US and China to reach a trade deal and the trade restrictions can be lifted.