Shiv Sena wants 'Secular' word to be removed from Indian Constitution

[Aarush]

whats wrong with that ?

India was and is a Hindu rashtra. Majority should be given their due status

i am abide by my consitution which gives equal rights to every citizen of country regardless of their religion cast color gender etc...

on topic: some bad apples are their in basket.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Don't worry the hindu nationalist apologists will be all over this thread. Shiv Sena reminds of Jamat e Islami, both evil, both using religion to play with peoples emotions and creating hatred.

And both are led and populated by morons.

 

[nair]

Ok...... Let us see how raj thakare gonna respond to this......

 

[Pakistani E]

And both are led and populated by morons.

And both need to be put down.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Shiv Sena trying to play it's relevance by raking up controversial issues! Party has lost it's importance within NDA despite being partners in Maharashtra & at the center! Just trying to stay in the news.. that's all!

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Whether the word secular remains on the preamble or not is irrelevant, India will always be a secular nation because the constitution mandates that. It is now deemed part of the basic structure of the constitution that cannot be touched.

The idea that a state is 'fundamentally' something eternal is a very precarious one. If you go by historical experience, if BJP had a free hand for 20 years, it is possible to fundamentally change it into a hindu extremist country. It is unimaginable because for most of morn history India has been largely secular- but very very easily possible too.

 

[Star Wars]

Just trying to be in the limelight, ignore them..

 

[Aarush]

Shiv Sena trying to play it's relevance by raking up controversial issues! Party has lost it's importance within NDA despite being partners in Maharashtra & at the center! Just trying to stay in the news.. that's all!

probably due to the recent disagreements with BJP ..now they want to create a new headache for Modi.

 

[Spring Onion]

And that was on the anticipation of wide spread genocides, crimes, downslide of economy, tainted relationships with countries like US, Russia, China, chaos, political stalemates, rising of armed Hindu militants etc.

But what they saw was exact opposite.

Hence the large number of threads on Modi, personal attacks on him etc etc in this place.

Its hope thats the last hope for that hope they were hoping.

too much negativity must have hit your brain. NVM self-imagination laden with your own fears is a bad thing for health

 

[doppelganger]

too much negativity must have hit your brain. NVM self-imagination laden with your own fears is a bad thing for health

You have been missing in action. We missed you.

Have you been keeping track of the strides India has been making on the world stage off late?

Comments? Critical or otherwise. Opinion?

 

[Bang Galore]

The idea that a state is 'fundamentally' something eternal is a very precarious one. If you go by historical experience, if BJP had a free hand for 20 years, it is possible to fundamentally change it into a hindu extremist country. It is unimaginable because for most of morn history India has been largely secular- but very very easily possible too.

It's why unlike other arguments, I referred to the constitution alone, not on the whims of what may constitute public opinion at any particular point of time.

 

[Spring Onion]

The idea that a state is 'fundamentally' something eternal is a very precarious one. If you go by historical experience, if BJP had a free hand for 20 years, it is possible to fundamentally change it into a hindu extremist country. It is unimaginable because for most of morn history India has been largely secular- but very very easily possible too.

How it will become a Hindu extremist country ? what factors are there which be contributors to such an idea?

 

[doppelganger]

How it will become a Hindu extremist country ? what factors are there which be contributors to such an idea?

Good question.

Try as we might, even our loony tunes are pale wannabes compared to yours.

We are simply not good enough in the fanatical fundamentalist stakes.

Our most ultra right wingers carry lathis and wear khaki half chuddies for freaks sake. Do not hold out any hope for us joining you any time soon. We are simply outgunned here.

 

[haviZsultan]

The way things are going it won't be long when India is declared Hindu rashtra.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

It's why unlike other arguments, I referred to the constitution alone, not on the whims of what may constitute public opinion at any particular point of time.

I can assure you that given a big enough majority (which modi's current government is near to), they can attempt to both amend the constitution and also bully the courts into accepting it. BJP has that strain, especially under modi. The most nefarious thing they can do is make the amendment and unleash a debate in the SC for 50 years (like the Ram Janma Bhumi case). By the time the final revision comes, ground realities may change.

 

[Spring Onion]

You have been missing in action. We missed you.

Have you been keeping track of the strides India has been making on the world stage off late?

Comments? Critical or otherwise. Opinion?

If you have a good or somewhat good memory, when many Indians and Pakistanis were fearing that if Modi came to power India will be deprived of the strides you are mentioning in your above comment, while i was constantly saying that a fundamentalist Modi wont do anything foolish. All these fears are weak. So YES i am aware of the strides India is making on world stage and i am sure removing these 'useless' words in Indian case wont bring skies down.

So chill give majority Indian Hindus their right to empowerment instead of painting handicapped words on their faces