Shiite cleric condemns attack on Saudi Arabian police in Qatif

[Saif al-Arab]

Shiite cleric condemns attack on Saudi Arabian police in Qatif

Al-Saffar said the violent attacks on security officers and police ‘do not represent the true values of people from the province’. (Saffar.org)​

Staff writer,
Saturday, 5 November 2016

Shiite cleric Sheikh Hassan al-Saffar has condemned attacks on Saudi police in the Eastern Province city of Qatif.

Al-Saffar said the violent attacks on security officers and police “do not represent the true values of people from the province”.

“We have to all work together in order to avoid further violent acts against police in the future,” he added.

His comments came during the Friday sermon at al-Risala Mosque in the eastern Saudi city of Qatif.

“Anyone who commits these acts of violence not only hurts the victims but also hurts the community they belong to.

A policeman was killed and another wounded in an attack on their patrol in the eastern Saudi city of Qatif late last month.

An Al Arabiya News correspondent revealed that the shooting came from an unidentified vehicle, killing Sultan Al-Mutairi and wounding his partner.

*This article also appears on AlArabiya.net.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...condemns-attack-on-Saudi-police-in-Qatif.html

I found his speech on Youtube.

A good, sensible, religious, logical and patriotic cleric.

Cancerous Wilayat al-Faqih terrorist elements only appear in failed states. They are nowhere to be seen in stable Muslim countries regardless of Shias being overall a very small minority in all Muslim countries expect a few exceptions.

 

[alarabi]

There must be a joint work from all Arab and Muslim countries to bury the terror and invented system of Wilayat Alfaqih in its cradle Tehran. Who on earth would believe a terrorist guy in Iran claiming that his is the only infallible one amongst all alive people.
That's crazy,

 

[Saif al-Arab]

There must be a joint work from all Arab and Muslim countries to bury the terror and invented system of Wilayat Alfaqih in its cradle Tehran. Who on earth would believe a terrorist guy in Iran claiming that his is the only infallible one amongst all alive people.
That's crazy,

Definitely. However I can conclude that more and more Shias discover the true nature of that poisonous and blasphemous ideology. A geopolitical tool essentially. Only the most naive and uneducated lot (sadly such people are not exactly lacking in the Muslim world or any developing part of the world) see them as infallible holy cows whose presence we have all been blessed with.

Which is why traditional Shia Twelver Islam (luckily Shia Zaydis and Ismailis have never adopted this cancerous ideology anywhere in the world) should be supported financially and ideologically by KSA and all other Arab and Muslim states who want their Shia population to remain loyal to their country and to behave well. Even if only 2% of a given Shia population in a given country become infested by this cancer, it is enough to cause a lot of trouble.

The latest example of this is Nigeria as you may know.

Which is why KSA and all other Sunni Arab and Muslim countries who have a foot in this race should direct all their attention to this small and alien part of Shia Islam. We should never target mainstream Shia Islam as a whole (despite ideological differences) and sadly a few clerics in KSA and elsewhere in the Arab and Muslim world have misunderstood this and pushed people who are easily manipulated, to embrace willingly such a cancerous path.

Therefore I propose that KSA as the cradle of Islam and the cradle of all mainstream/traditional Shia sects (and Muslim for that matter) of which 95% of all the religious and historical personalities were from either modern-day KSA or had ancestral ties to KSA, to embrace this part of our history rather than pretend that it does not exist.

KSA should embrace all mainstream Islamic sects within Sunni and Shia Islam (also Sufism) as all of those sects are found indigenously among our people and nation to this very day 1400 years later.

We should end the Hanbali monopoly too. If the clergy/leadership did this we would win so much by it not only indigenously but also in terms of foreign policy. Controlling/protecting Makkah and Madinah (our indigenous lands after all) is already a victory in itself but if that other issue was dealt with, there would be little to complain about religiously wise.

While anti-Shia rhetoric from certain clerics might appeal to a certain element and people abroad, this tactic is not beneficial on the long run and also targets our own people who happen to be Shia (Zaydi, Ismaili and Twelver). That is not acceptable. So therefore the attention should be to target the allen and 37 year old Wilayat al-Faqih ideology instead which luckily is only represented by Iran (as in country and leadership) and their terrorist puppets in the Muslim world. Puppets/terrorist groups who do more harm to Shias than benefits if you look at the ground realities. This tactic should be applied more than currently done.

I know that there are very few of such clerics and that those who make controversial statements are usually dealt with but certain religious books could emphasize the theological differences in a more neutral way instead of categorically concluding that this is wrong etc.

Notice this is my opinion but I know that many other compatriots share it in KSA.

A Shia in the RSAF.

Rafawid scholars and Wahhabi scholars cracking jocks.

Ashura Al Hussain by Tayseer Alabyadh, on Flickr


Ashura Al Hussain by Tayseer Alabyadh, on Flickr


Ashura Al Hussain by Tayseer Alabyadh, on Flickr

Anyway Saudi Arabian Shias arguably live better than all Shias in the world. They are on average much richer too. Also they have 1000's upon 1000's of Husseiniyas and mosques. Even in Madinah where there is a small Shia community (the oldest in the world) they have many places of worship and nobody bothers them.

Also literally half of Aramcos workers are Saudi Arabian Shias. Some of the richest business families are Shia. Yet, they are supposedly oppressed if ignorant foreigners are to be believed. Nice joke. They live better than the average Sunni in KSA does say in Southern KSA!

There are zero restrictions on Shias in KSA.

 

[f1000n]

Can we have a thread for latmiya RAFIDA video's

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Can we have a thread for latmiya RAFIDA video's

I prefer Southern Iraqi Arab Shroogi and Shia tribal poetry. Shroogis in Eastern Province have adopted this tradition and are big fans. They love their brothers and sisters in Southern Iraq. The rest should be forced to adopt this beautiful thinking.

Hosat:

It is rap basically. Cool no doubt.

Some chobi music:

Soon anti-Wilayat al-Faqih poetry should be invented. Insha'Allah. Only traditional Shia Islam should be glorified and praised.

 

[AmirPatriot]

This thread is so ridiculous

This "Wilayat al faqih" meme that Al-Hitler seems to be posting is a political system, not a sect.

However hard you try, there is no such thing as a "Wilayat al faqih" sub-sect in Iran. The vast majority of us are Twelver.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

This thread is so ridiculous

This "Wilayat al faqih" meme that Al-Hitler seems to be posting is a political system, not a sect.

However hard you try, there is no such thing as a "Wilayat al faqih" sub-sect in Iran. The vast majority of us are Twelver.

I am talking about Twelvers loyal to Wilayat al-Faqih and who follow this 37 year old poisonous system that has nothing to do with traditional Shia Islam or traditional Twelver beliefs but is a geopolitical tool of the current Iranian Mullah's. Such people exist, vast majority inside Iran, but unfortunately a few elements within the Arab world too (Lebanon and Iraq - who are more loyal to some Mullah's in Iran than their own country and people) exist too and cause a lot of trouble and that is undeniable no matter how much you scream, cry, curse or claim the opposite.

You might think this discussion/thread is ridiculous but there is nothing ridiculous about it nor does it concern you but Arabs, I am afraid.

Another thing you seem quite obsessed about me as many other Iranian users here. The reasons for this are well-known, lol. Seems that one single Arab here is making you lose your mind.

Anyway since you said to me that your mother is of Arab origin I will not attack you however I advice you not to attack Arabs here. My problem is Iranian Mullah's only while many of your friends here hate Arabs simply because they are Arabs, Mr. Amir.

Look at how Iranian communities of all ethnicities (Iranian Arabs, Persians, Lurs mainly) are treated in GCC and people of Iranian origin in the GCC and how Iranian Arabs in Iran are treated despite living in the richest area of Iran and most historical (Arabistan/Khuzestan). Reconsider your behavior here and don't act this hostile as Arabs and Iranians can cooperate again and become friends again as neighbors and the potential would be big. Unless you think that this region needs more infighting.

And believe it or not but I have good ties with quite a few Iranian users here and vice versa (real life too), many are inactive sadly, so your lies about me will not work here.

Also this Al-Hitler is due to me wanting all terrorists gone from the Arab world, including those sponsored by Iran, which you took to your heart. Pathetic. I condemn the Nazi ideology and the Holocaust with was a crime against humanity.

I thought you were one of the saner Iranian Mullah supporters here but I guess that I was wrong. Continue your hating until you hair becomes white.

 

[Mamluk]

KSA should embrace all mainstream Islamic sects within Sunni and Shia Islam (also Sufism) as all of those sects are found indigenously among our people and nation to this very day 1400 years later.

We should end the Hanbali monopoly too. If the clergy/leadership did this we would win so much by it not only indigenously but also in terms of foreign policy. Controlling/protecting Makkah and Madinah (our indigenous lands after all) is already a victory in itself but if that other issue was dealt with, there would be little to complain about religiously wise.

Well said. I'm not a big fan of your country's policies, but something like what you said would be a very welcome move.

 

[AmirPatriot]

I am talking about Twelvers loyal to Wilayat al-Faqih and who follow this 37 year old poisonous system that has nothing to do with traditional Shia Islam or traditional Twelver beliefs but is a geopolitical tool of the current Iranian Mullah's. Such people exist, vast majority inside Iran, but unfortunately a few elements within the Arab world too (Lebanon and Iraq - who are more loyal to some Mullah's in Iran than their own country and people) exist too and cause a lot of trouble and that is undeniable no matter how much you scream, cry, curse or claim the opposite.

You might think this discussion/thread is ridiculous but there is nothing ridiculous about it nor does it concern you but Arabs, I am afraid.

Another thing you seem quite obsessed about me as many other Iranian users here. The reasons for this are well-known, lol. Seems that one single Arab here is making you lose your mind.

Anyway since you said to me that your mother is of Arab origin I will not attack you however I advice you not to attack Arabs here. My problem is Iranian Mullah's only while many of your friends here hate Arabs simply because they are Arabs, Mr. Amir.

Look at how Iranian communities of all ethnicities (Iranian Arabs, Persians, Lurs mainly) are treated in GCC and people of Iranian origin in the GCC and how Iranian Arabs in Iran are treated despite living in the richest area of Iran and most historical (Arabistan/Khuzestan). Reconsider your behavior here and don't act this hostile as Arabs and Iranians can cooperate again and become friends again as neighbors and the potential would be big. Unless you think that this region needs more infighting.

And believe it or not but I have good ties with quite a few Iranian users here and vice versa (real life too), many are inactive sadly, so your lies about me will not work here.

Also this Al-Hitler is due to me wanting all terrorists gone from the Arab world, including those sponsored by Iran, which you took to your heart. Pathetic. I condemn the Nazi ideology and the Holocaust with was a crime against humanity.

I thought you were one of the saner Iranian Mullah supporters here but I guess that I was wrong. Continue your hating until you hair becomes white.

Let me tell you something.

I don't support theocracy as a system of governance. And that includes Iran's system. I do not support "mullahs" simply because they are mullahs. Nor Ayatollahs, Muftis, Shahs, or Kings for that matter.

I support a country by its policies.

Many Arabs think we have a presence in Arab countries because we are interfering in Arab affairs, or seeking to attack Arab countries in some way or another. This "interfering in Arab affairs" meme has amused me recently because its used as a one liner to explain everything in what the user thinks is smart and defensive.

The reality is that Hezbollah in Lebanon isn't even directed at Arabs, almost all its members are Arab for God's sake. And a surprising proportion of them are Sunnis and Christians. No, Hezbollah is directed at Israel, it always has been. Its recent involvement in Syria is to safeguard its support in Syria.

The most humorous "interfering in Arab affairs" crap is when the person in question is talking about Iraq. Well, by damn Iran will get involved in Iraq when a Wahhabi death cult (whose ideology revolves around hatred for the rafidi shia) is a dozen km from its borders. Hell, when ISIS started making huge gains, I expected a more forceful response from Tehran. I expected tanks, planes, and tens of thousands of professional soldiers to cross the Iraqi border. The fact that Iran showed such a measured response, only stepping up armament, tactical and organisational support surprised me. I am fully in favour of any help Iran can offer the Iraqi government until Daesh is destroyed.

You don't think those people in Lebanon and Iraq have a legitimate reason to accept help from Iran?

In Lebanon, they faced years of Israeli occupation, aerial attack and civil war. They still face some of these today.

In Iraq, its only been a few years since Saddam was toppled, the Americans stopped their occupation and the attacks on Shia subsided (though Shia mosques were still getting bombed), then another enemy appears in the form of ISIS.

Unless you are one of those conspiracy theorists that think Iran created ISIS or Iran and Israel are working to take down the Muslim world then it would seem that Iran and the people of Iraq and Lebanon have a common enemy.

Iran hasn't attacked any country in 250 years, let alone an Arab country, yet it was attacked just 36 years ago by an Arab country who was supported by many other Arab countries.

I don't support Mullahs or Ayatollahs, I support whoever I see has the best policies. And since the "Mullahs" are the ones opposing American/Israeli regional domination, I will support them.

All I know of your hatred (to the point of Waffen SS/Saddam-style gassing) of the "wilayat al faqih slaves" is that those "slaves" support the "mullahs".