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Why Azad Kashmir Is Called Azad?
By Dr Shabir Choudhry


He said: There are hundreds of independent countries in the world, but no country write independent with its name, as it is understood that they are all independent. However with Kashmir Pakistani authorities have included azad (independent), it clearly means there is something wrong – daal main kuch kala hai – something sinister is at play; and they have something to hide. This word is included to fool people of Jammu and Kashmir, just to give them false sense of independence.



One can disagree with the kind of politics promoted by Sardar Hyrbayar Mari, but no one can dispute that he is very committed to his cause and is sincere nationalist Baloch leader. Furthermore his observation on Azad Kashmir truly represents the situation in Azad Kashmir. Of course Azad Kashmir is not Azad or independent. It is a ‘colony’ of Pakistan,] in which they have established a political set up that is more interested in promoting and protecting national interests of Pakistan than the interests of the people of Jammu and Kashmir.

Those people who become Prime Ministers or Presidents in this set up are not even allowed to travel to other constituent parts of the State of Jammu and Kashmir, for example, no Prime Minister or President of Azad Kashmir is allowed to visit Gilgit Baltistan which is part of the State and which is on the Pakistani side of the LOC. They don’t need a visa or a passport to go there, but they do need NOC (No Objection Certificate) from Pakistani authorities.

The main complaint the people of Gilgit Baltistan have from the leadership of Azad Kashmir is that they left them at the mercy of the Pakistani agencies and bureaucrats who ruled the territory of Gilgit Baltistan with an iron fist; and denied people of their fundamental human rights. Because of lack of communication and people to people contact, distance between people of Gilgit Baltistan and rest of Jammu and Kashmir, especially Azad Kashmir widened and sense of belonging weakened.

In independent countries Prime Ministers and Presidents have powers to rule their countries; and they are only accountable to people who elect them; but in Azad Kashmir the rulers have many bosses; and they are not accountable to the people of Azad Kashmir but to the Pakistani bosses.

Prime Minister of Pakistan is one boss of the Azad Kashmiri leaders, as he is the Chairman of the Kashmir Council which makes all the major decisions related to Azad Kashmir and which could not be challenged by the Azad Kashmir Assembly or any court. It is also interesting that in this Kashmir Council, Pakistanis are in majority and they are not elected or selected by the people of Azad Kashmir. These Pakistanis decide what is good for the people of Azad Kashmir; and subservient Azad Kashmiris leaders happily come back and implement those decisions.

The other bosses of Azad Kashmiri leaders include the following:

> Pakistani Minister of Kashmir Affairs and his officials;
> Chief Secretary of Azad Kashmir who is always a Pakistani;
> IG Police, who is always a Pakistani;
> Finance Secretary, who is always a Pakistani;
> Accountant General, who is always a Pakistani;
> Inter Services Intelligence, Chief in Azad Kashmir;
> Military Intelligence, Chief in Azad Kashmir;
> Intelligence Bureau, Chief in Azad Kashmir;
> Of course the General Commanding Officer of Pakistan Army based in Murree.

These helpless and impotent rulers of Azad Kashmir have to declare that they will be loyal to Pakistan; and despite so many bosses and total control over their territory by Pakistan these leaders living in fantasy world think they are Azad. This area – Azad Kashmir is ruled under an act known as Act 74, which was drafted by Minister of Law of Pakistan and rubber stamped by the Azad Kashmir Assembly without any discussion or amendment.

According to Act 74 the following are responsibility of Pakistan:

> The defence and security of Azad Jammu&Kashmir;
> The current coin or the issue of any bills, notes or other paper currency;
> The external affairs of Azad Jammu and Kashmir including foreign trade
and foreign aid.

The P-O-K is just as Azad as India was under the British.
 
What is Omar Abdullah (Chief of J&K talking about when he says that Kashmiri demography and geography has been artificially tinkered with in the Pkaistani side?) Start watching at 6:30


Who is he? Go to gilgit or baltistan and talk to them they don't want to be in this Kashmir mess, they probably don't know a country called India exists
 
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Who is he? Go to gilgit or baltistan and talk to them they don't want to be in this Kashmir mess, they probably don't know a country called India exists

Oh they know ! The Chitral scouts & the Gilgit Scouts were the first ones to revolt & won whole swathes of Kashmir (GB) for Pakistan long before the Tribal Militias & whatever was available of our army came. ;)
 
Oh they know ! The Chitral scouts & the Gilgit Scouts were the first ones to revolt & won whole swathes of Kashmir (GB) for Pakistan long before the Tribal Militias & whatever was available of our army came. ;)

Yaar Indians trying to tell you how things work in your land is nothing more than a delusional paradox.
 
Chinese tried that in Xinjiang and have more trouble than before.

well, Bangladesh successfully implemented it in Chittagong... Bengali settlements have neutralized non bengali insurgency....
 
Oh they know ! The Chitral scouts & the Gilgit Scouts were the first ones to revolt & won whole swathes of Kashmir (GB) for Pakistan long before the Tribal Militias & whatever was available of our army came. ;)

gilgit and baltistan have nothing to do with kashmir or jammu. they hate kashmiris.
 
gilgit and baltistan have nothing to do with kashmir or jammu. they hate kashmiris.

They were a part of the Princely State of Kashmir & I mentioned that in that context. And they don't hate Kashmiris or Jammuites...they just want to be treated as a separate entity because of their different culture & ethnicity & shouldn't be left in limbo due to the Kashmir Conflict; thats the prime reason why they've been repeatedly asking to be made into a Province of Pakistan instead of the special position that existed. Pakistan Government made them a de-facto province with their own legislature even if it isn't a de-jure Province of Pakistan.
 
They were a part of the Princely State of Kashmir & I mentioned that in that context. And they don't hate Kashmiris or Jammuites...they just want to be treated as a separate entity because of their different culture & ethnicity; thats the prime reason why they've been repeatedly asking to be made into a Province of Pakistan instead of the special position that existed. Pakistan Government made them a de-facto province with their own legislature even if it isn't a de-jure Province of Pakistan.

i know. this whole j&k is retarded concept. it only worked when there was an authoritarian maharaja in jammu. otherwise, these regions have nothing to do with each other and should form separate states. i would support jammu forming a separate state. ladakh wants union territory status. people want to develop too you know. a certain ethnic group doesn't but others definitely do.
 

First the Sunnis dont allow the Shias to do Muharram in Kashmir , and now this. Truly disgusting, whats going on there in Kashmir?

We need to stop importing the Pakistani brand of sectarian issues into India
:angry:

Yes you need to do something about it. Start by stop accusing Pakistan of every sh!t happening in occupied Kashmir or mainland India.
 
There is a reason why the "Muslims" of Kargil or the Gujjars,Bakerwals (all of them Muslims) want nothing to do with "azaadi" or Pakistan. :azn:



There are more Punjabi or non-Kashmiri speaking people in AJK than native Kashmiri speakers.

The only "Kashmir" (the valley) is in India. What is there in Pakistan are the wannabe Kashmiris and Mirpuris :P
 
There is a reason why the "Muslims" of Kargil or the Gujjars,Bakerwals (all of them Muslims) want nothing to do with "azaadi" or Pakistan. :azn:





The only "Kashmir" (the valley) is in India. What is there in Pakistan are the wannabe Kashmiris and Mirpuris :P

you are right. kargili shias hate pakkitan. there are many in jammu. they are also obsessed with iran.
there are also many paharis in j&k and they have always lived here. it is there land. kashmiri culture has never expanded outside the valley
 
ontopic: Never heard about shia sunni violence in kashmir, it usually happens in UP.
Are sunni kashmiris too being radicalized in more pure islam. Or is it because shia kashmiris usually do not support secession.
 
well, Bangladesh successfully implemented it in Chittagong... Bengali settlements have neutralized non bengali insurgency....

Yeah well the whole world's eyes arent on Bangladesh, so they could get away with it. In Kashmir, even if a single terrorist is arrested, it is termed as a human rights violation.
 
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